Re: [AFMUG] OT...It's hot....the weather

2020-06-30 Thread Bill Prince
Maybe he's not talking about the weather? bp On 6/30/2020 9:14 PM, James Howard wrote: Now you’re trying to tell us that 34 degrees is hot?   From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT...It's hot....the weather

2020-06-30 Thread James Howard
Now you're trying to tell us that 34 degrees is hot? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT...It's hotthe weather Very hot weather Tota

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Adam Moffett
All the good switches are made in Taiwan. All the bad switches are also made in Taiwan. Planet is definitely in one of those categories. On 6/30/2020 6:29 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: planet On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 8:29 AM Adam Moffett > wrote: So who's your pref

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Im have a bunch of them for sale, interested? Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/756812e5-24a6-4693-a923-7a1d8f55546d.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Sean Heskett
planet On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 8:29 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > So who's your preferred vendor for carrier switches? > > Suppose you want to break away from buggy Latvian switches, who would > you look at today? > > Ciena? Adtran? Cisco? Juniper? > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > htt

Re: [AFMUG] POE-24iR-CI discontinued?

2020-06-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
It's probably irrelevant if the Tycon one is no longer available. But keep in mind the AC line cord is extra with the Cambium POE. Main differences IMHO are the Cambium POE doesn't have the current indicator LED feature, or mounting ears. Not rocket science if Cambium wanted to add them. We

Re: [AFMUG] POE-24iR-CI discontinued?

2020-06-30 Thread Adam Moffett
The Cambium one is $12 at Baltic.  The Tycon is at least twice the money.  Is it twice as good? On 6/30/2020 4:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: We use these.   Just about to order more, unhappy to hear they have been discontinued!!! So, yes what do people use with 450b High Gain…. Adam *Fr

Re: [AFMUG] POE-24iR-CI discontinued?

2020-06-30 Thread SmarterBroadband
We use these. Just about to order more, unhappy to hear they have been discontinued!!! So, yes what do people use with 450b High Gain.. Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 1:18 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' S

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Gino A. Villarini
How about some good gray market resellers? Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/756812e5-24a6-4693-a923-7a1d8f55546d.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Adam Moffett
Do they all run Linux? On 6/30/2020 1:36 PM, Peter Kranz via AF wrote: Understood, Arista hits the boxes for us in terms of support, performance, AND value.. We primarily use the 7280SR variants, but either the 7010 or 7020 makes for an excellent tower level switch/router. Peter Kranz www.Unwir

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
Understood, Arista hits the boxes for us in terms of support, performance, AND value.. We primarily use the 7280SR variants, but either the 7010 or 7020 makes for an excellent tower level switch/router. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Adam Moffett
I'll check out Arista. I do appreciate a good deal as much as anybody, but I think I should mention that being cheap on Ebay is not one of my criteria. On 6/30/2020 1:07 PM, Peter Kranz via AF wrote: Arista all the way. Entry prices for Arista 7010 and 7020R devices are quite reasonable. Some

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
Arista all the way. Entry prices for Arista 7010 and 7020R devices are quite reasonable. Some 7010 and 7020R inventory on Ebay as well. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Josh Baird
Yeah - I was looking at used on eBay. I see some for <$1500. On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:38 PM Jesse DuPont wrote: > Used - well under $2500, some way less. >  > > *Jesse DuPont* > > Owner / Network Architect > email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > Celerity Networks LLC / Celerity Broadband LL

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Jesse DuPont
Used - well under $2500, some way less.  Jesse DuPont Owner / Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Adam Moffett
$15k cheap? On 6/30/2020 12:20 PM, Josh Baird wrote: ... and cheap, too.  I'll take a look at these! On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 11:14 AM Jesse DuPont mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>> wrote: Brocade ICX7750-48F is a solid choice.  *Jesse DuPont* Owner / Network Architec

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Cisco Nexus is a good option ! Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/756812e5-24a6-4693-a923-7a1d8f55546d.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Josh Baird
... and cheap, too. I'll take a look at these! On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 11:14 AM Jesse DuPont wrote: > Brocade ICX7750-48F is a solid choice. >  > > *Jesse DuPont* > > Owner / Network Architect > email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > Celerity Networks LLC / Celerity Broadband LLC > Like us! fa

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Josh Baird
Yeah - the L2 VLAN config on CRS has been frustrating to say the least. I haven't even tried this "new" method on the CRS317, but it's on my list soon. Juniper EX JunOS syntax across models is more or less the same. There are some minor differences when you get into EX4600 since it uses ELS (enh

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Adam Moffett
If you know the state they're all in already, and you know the same command will work on all of them, then I can see how that would work.  I'm working towards that too because the Mikrotiks won't go away. On 6/30/2020 11:17 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Might look at Unimus for that config change to

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Might look at Unimus for that config change to 300 Mikrotiks. If that's your only issue, it's a lot cheaper than replacing 300 units. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:47 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > For the m

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-30 Thread Robert
My favorite was his bunghole method of raising children... On 6/30/20 8:42 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: My WC Fields quote is: “You are the epitome of feminine pulchritudity”. (He was good at teaching me vocab) *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:39 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Jesse DuPont
Brocade ICX7750-48F is a solid choice.  Jesse DuPont Owner / Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Adam Moffett
Well the CRS 3xx line is actually their best so far.  I've noted at least 4 ways to set up VLAN's on a Mikrotik and in any given scenario 3 of them are wrong.  On the 3xx use Bridge->VLAN and enable VLAN filtering on your bridge interface.  That is the only platform where the bridge VLAN filter

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Josh Baird
EX4600 is nice, but it's not cheap. Yes, you can create a VC using the 40Gbps interfaces (or the 10Gbps interfaces). You may consider the older EX4550 if you are trying to save money. I'm actually looking for something similar.. I have a few of the CRS317-1G-16S+RM in stock, but tbh, I'm a littl

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Adam Moffett
Lots of 10gig SFP+ I just eyeballed the Juniper EX4600.  Wondering if I can stack chassis using the 40gig ports. On 6/30/2020 10:49 AM, Josh Baird wrote: What interface config are you looking for? On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:47 AM Adam Moffett > wrote: For t

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Josh Baird
What interface config are you looking for? On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:47 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > For the moment just L2: VLAN, ethertype filter, port > isolation.standard stuff. > > I'm assuming Juniper has software for central management? I poo-poo'd > that stuff for a long time, but try

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Adam Moffett
For the moment just L2: VLAN, ethertype filter, port isolation.standard stuff. I'm assuming Juniper has software for central management?  I poo-poo'd that stuff for a long time, but try to push one change out to 300 Mikrotiks and spending $10k on management software starts to look attract

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-30 Thread Bill Prince
He also claimed he didn't drink water because fish fornicate in it. bp On 6/30/2020 7:39 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Some of my best friends are snakes! WC Fields On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 9:01 AM

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-30 Thread chuck
My WC Fields quote is: “You are the epitome of feminine pulchritudity”. (He was good at teaching me vocab) From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:39 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise Some of my best friends are snakes! WC Fields On

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
Some of my best friends are snakes! WC Fields On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 9:01 AM wrote: > We live in rattlesnake country. There is no doubt. > > *From:* Sam Lambie > *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2020 8:35 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise > > Yeah

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Juniper and HP, Do you need DC power? Then Netonix Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/756812e5-24a6-4693-a923-7a1d8f55546d.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.pn

Re: [AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Josh Baird
What featureset do you need? Just L2? Any L3 features? Juniper EX is my go-to for most applications. On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:29 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > So who's your preferred vendor for carrier switches? > > Suppose you want to break away from buggy Latvian switches, who would > you look

[AFMUG] Good Switches

2020-06-30 Thread Adam Moffett
So who's your preferred vendor for carrier switches? Suppose you want to break away from buggy Latvian switches, who would you look at today? Ciena? Adtran? Cisco? Juniper? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com