W2K 4.2.1 Desktop Archive Client backs up files that are unmodifi ed

2001-11-16 Thread Seay, Paul
I cannot seem to figure this out. I am doing a simple dsmc incr. I run the backup and every time it backs up all files that are in my dsm.opt includes as if it is a selective backup. If I use -incrbydate, same thing. I have absolute turned on. Any ideas? AIX 4.2.1.2 Server Desktop BA Client 4.2

Re: Version 4.2.1.7

2001-11-16 Thread Ilja G. Coolen
Hi there all, I applied the fix 4.2.1.7 yesterday, and all my troubles seem to be resolved. I did a 'q lic' and the licenses i registered in 4.2.1.6 are all accounted for. So do not try to apply the registrations again. No need for that. Ilja G. Coolen _ ABP / USZO CIS / BS / TB / Sto

Delay on script

2001-11-16 Thread Robert Ouzen
Hi I wrote a script to make a Database Snapshot (with wait=yes) and a checkout of this tape. My problem is the command checkout run before the tape is dismount. Is it a delay command I can use in my script or an other idea ……… T.I.A Regards Robert Ouzen E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: TSM 4.1 -> 4.2

2001-11-16 Thread Remco Post
I do think so. IIRC the manual says something about a db upgrade being automatically preformed the first time a 4.2 server is started > I don't think so, I did the upgrade without doing anything special. > > Regards, > > Wouter > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manag

Fileclass Mounting problem (unable to reclaim to tape)

2001-11-16 Thread Eugene Awyong - Singapore
Hi, I'm trying to reclaim or 'push' my data from my fileclass to a tape, but they don't seem to be working. All they do is to wait to be mounted, but I can't seem to be able to mount them, can anyone help me figure out what I should be doing? tsm: SAPROD>q libvo Library Name Volume Nam

Re: Fileclass Mounting problem (unable to reclaim to tape)

2001-11-16 Thread Jozef Zatko
Eugene, try to check mountlimit in devclas FILECLASS and in LTO_DEV1 using command q devcl fileclass f=d In devclass FILECLASS there should be no higher mount limit than in devclass LTO_DEV1. Hope this helps. Ing. Jozef Zatko Login a.s. Dlha 2, Stupava tel.: (421) (2) 60252618

Re: TDPO 2.2 some undesirable behaviour.

2001-11-16 Thread Bruce Mitchell
Has anyone seen the following behviour with their sbtio.log under Solaris and TDP for Oracle V2.2. I cant find anything on Tivoli's Knowledge base.. Any hints/tip are welcome Tel: +44(0) 207 547 4917 Fax+44(0)207 541-4705 Mobile+44(0) 7768 361-885 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Will filespaces be over-written if unix OS is changed?

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
YES! It will TSM distinguishes the file from NODE_NAME,FILESPACE_NAME,HL_NAME,LL_NAME. For example for the file /var/mail/kkwiatek on host mybox the file attributes will be NODE_NAME='MYBOX', FILESPACE_NAME='/var', HL_NAME='/mail/' and LL_NAME='kkwiatek'. I use same node name on my PC using both O

Re: upgrading tape density

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
This issue was discussed many times on this list. The main trick is to update all volumes for low density tapes ACC=READOnly. The reason is that 3590E drives can only read low density tapes but cannot write to them at low density. After either reclamation or MOVE DATA (i.e. manually forced reclama

Re: Clarifications: LAN Free ( SAN ) Backup

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
SANergy moves well-known file sharing from LAN to SAN. If you forget for a moment about SAN all the features are as of LAN file sharing. So many clients can mount the filesystem but only one can write to particular file at the moment. Even a hundred hosts can write simultaneously but to hundred se

Is there life after expirattion

2001-11-16 Thread John Naylor
Anyone know the answer to this? Scenario is drectory/files are backed up then excluded so they become inactive. Before they expire exclusion is removed , so once again eligble for backup. Am I right in thinking :- 1) That everything would be backed up again even if not changed 2) That the original

Re: TSM Easter Egg - bug

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
Nice and funny. It works for both client v3.7.2 on OS/2 (client developers) and administrative client (returning server developers) against AIX server v4.1.4.1. It also nearly worked for AIX v4.1.3 client : "tsm> show developers *** Kudos to the Client Developers *** IOT/Abort trap(coredump)" S

Licensing MS SQL cluster - managed system for LAN/SAN and TDP licenses?

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
Hello, A cluster of two servers running MS SQL has to be backed up. The question is how many licenses the customer has to purchase. On my opinion two "Managed System for LAN" licenses for the nodes and a "Managed System for SAN" for the cluster virtual node. The nodes do not have much data to bac

Re: Aggravating recordkeeping failure in TSM.

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
More parameters you have to put more choices are available and more flexible the product is. Some people want to be able to make more than one stgpool backup in more than one copy pools. You suggestion would limit them. Why not to create few simple scripts called BACKUP_BLOTZMO, BACKUP_WAKKO and B

Re: W2K 4.2.1 Desktop Archive Client backs up files that are unmodifi ed

2001-11-16 Thread Bill Mansfield
Having Absolute turned on tells TSM to back up all files. Option should be set to modified. _ William Mansfield Senior Consultant Solution Technology, Inc 630 718 4238 "Seay, Paul" cc: Sent b

export node or server on cross platform server migration

2001-11-16 Thread Leopold Hameder
Hi *SMers, we have to migrate our TSM -Server (4.2.1) from AIX / RS6000 to Win2000 / Netfinity Intel. has anyone expirience with this? Our environment: TSM 4.2.1 / AIX currently running backup for two clients within seperate storage pools TSM 4.2.1 / WIN2000 3494-Library with 3 x

Re: Is there life after expirattion

2001-11-16 Thread Remco Post
> Anyone know the answer to this? > Scenario is drectory/files are backed up then excluded so they become inactive. > Before they expire exclusion is removed , so once again eligble for backup. > Am I right in thinking :- > 1) That everything would be backed up again even if not changed Correct.

Re: TSM Easter Egg - bug

2001-11-16 Thread Andrew Raibeck
> *** Kudos to the Client Developers *** IOT/Abort > trap(coredump)" You found the real "easter egg!" :-) Thanks for letting us know. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-ma

Version 3.1 client on HPUX 10.2

2001-11-16 Thread
Does anyone out there run TSM v 3.1 on an HPUX 10.2 client? We have to HPUX 10.2 boxes here that for some reason we can't upgrade to later versions. (the only version that will run is v 3.1) We can successfully run scheduled backups with one of them. But the other will not get contacted by the s

TDPO 2.2 some undesirable behaviour.(found answer)

2001-11-16 Thread Bruce Mitchell
All, Please ignore previous posting as I've found the solution... TDPIO V 2.2.0.1 or 2 required.. (fixtests) Why can I not find the APAR on the knowledge base that is documented in the fixtest (IC30760) Tel: +44(0) 207 547 4917 Fax+44(0)207 541-4705 Mobile+44(0) 7768 361

Re: W2K 4.2.1 Desktop Archive Client backs up files that are unmodifi ed

2001-11-16 Thread Andrew Raibeck
> I have absolute turned on. If you mean that you have MODE=ABSOLUTE in the copy group, then you just answered your own question answer! :-) That's exactly what ABSOLUTE says: back up the file even if it hasn't changed. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manag

WINDOW SIZE on TSM Server 3.7.4

2001-11-16 Thread Gent, Chad E.
I have been experiencing problems with throughput with my NT clients. On my TSM server the WINDOW SIZE is set to 0. If I change that to 63 to accommodate my NT clients. Will this affect performance of my Unix and Sun Clients? Chad

include/exclude list

2001-11-16 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
Will someone please explain the pitfalls of changing the include/exclude list as it relates to this issue. We have a server that is running Oracle. There is no TDP for True64 so we're stuck with what we have, the client. Backing up open Oracle files is a waste of time because we know from testing

Re: export node or server on cross platform server migration

2001-11-16 Thread Gabriel Wiley
Haven't had exp. with that . We did an Aix 4.3.3. to HP UX 11.0 migration. Kept the same POS Stk 9714 1 cell I/O chamber library. Had no problems .. Gabriel C. Wiley ADSM/TSM Administrator AIX Support Phone 1-614-308-6709 Pager 1-877-489-2867 Fax 1-614-308-6637 Cell 1-740-972-6

TDS installation.

2001-11-16 Thread Leijnse, Finn F SITI-ISES-31
Hello all, I am having a real hard time getting TDS v2.1.1 working. Has anyone got the experience to help me through this installation? Can I get some hints on how to set up the ODBC drivers to work. The TSM ODBC driver is OK that part is simple but the oracle driver puzzles me. > met vriendeli

Re: include/exclude list

2001-11-16 Thread Ford, Phillip
We do this by declaring two separate nodes on the TRU64 systems. The base node (base) is for the OS and all database files are excluded. We do backup the redologs under base but use a different management class so that we do not keep them as long. On the weekend we do our cold backups of just t

Re: Delay on script

2001-11-16 Thread Ford, Phillip
Off the top of my head, have the first script submit another script that does the checkout. Submit this script to run x minutes in the future. This is a kluge but should work. I don't know of any way to delay in TSM scripts. Hope this helps -- Phillip Ford Senior Software Specialist Corporat

Re: Version 3.1 client on HPUX 10.2

2001-11-16 Thread Chris Young
I am aware of a site where the individual is running v3.1 clients on HP 10.20. However, they are using Autosys to initiate the backup operations. They have not had any problems with this configuration as far as I am aware. Chris Young Gresham -Original Message- From: [mailto:[EMAIL PR

anybody out there using AIT library?

2001-11-16 Thread Salak Juraj
Hi, I have offerts for 3575, LTO and AIT-3 / Qualstar libraries ( AIT-2 available, AIT-3 coming soon) but have only paper-based knowledges about AIT. Weighted Time-to-data performance, capacity and price ratio seems to be far the best with AIT for my needs, but I have no experiencies with this

Re: TDP R/3 Restore Problem

2001-11-16 Thread Davidson, Becky
The BKI1208E is The object 'filename' will be retried meaning there was an error with the object and it will try to restore again. Any errors in the tsm act log during this time frame? The BR errors are sapdba errors and you have to go to OSS on them. Are you restoring from before the upgrade?

Question

2001-11-16 Thread Remeta, Mark
If one does not have an account on Tivoli's web site that has access to open apar's how does one find out issues for a given client version? TIA, Mark Remeta Seligman Data Corp. 100 Park Avenue New York, NY 10017 Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the perso

Re: Aggravating recordkeeping failure in TSM.

2001-11-16 Thread asr
=> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:34:52 +0200, Zlatko Krastev/ACIT<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > More parameters you have to put more choices are available and more flexible > the product is. Well, yes; exactly. :) > Some people want to be able to make more than one stgpool backup in more > than one cop

Re: Collocation - on or off

2001-11-16 Thread Bill Colwell
Dwight, I agree with you on most of your analysis except for the math. 2500 * 3 minutes = 7500 min = 5+ days! This problem of more nodes than tapes when running with collocation on is one I have been asking Tivoli to fix for a long time. A fix may be coming! See Dave Cannon's 'Scalability Enhanc

AIX 5.1 + TSM

2001-11-16 Thread Herve CHIBOIS
Hi TSMers Does anyone have AIX 5L 5.1 iso files on a server that I can download. I am unable to get it from my IBM VARs in France ! We have a big project coming up that requires TSM on AIX5L and we would like to test it ASAP. Thanx in advance rv

TDP R/3 Restore Problem

2001-11-16 Thread David . Bean
I am getting the following errors upon restoring data backed up with TDP/R3 running on AIX 4.3.3 and using AIX TSM client 3.7.4. The server is a TSM 3.7.2 server running on AIX 4.3.3. These are the errors: BKI1208E BR266E BR267E Does anyone have any ideas as to why this would be occuring? O

Re: Version 3.1 client on HPUX 10.2

2001-11-16 Thread Jeff Bach
3.1 is the latest version of ADSM to support 10.20 clients. The schedule function works good. Make sure you cycle the scheduler on the client if an issue occurs. Jeff Bach Home Office Open Systems Engineering Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. WAL-MART CONFIDENTIAL -Original Message-

Re: Version 3.1 client on HPUX 10.2

2001-11-16 Thread Lewis, Thomas R.
We have many HPUX 10.2 servers running 3.1.0.8 (the latest client it can officially run). When we have misses we just have the HP admins run a backup manually and then restart their schedule. This usually fixes the problem. If it keeps failing we just keep continuing the process until it finall

Re: Version 3.1 client on HPUX 10.2

2001-11-16 Thread Thierry ITTY
A 09:07 16/11/01 -0500, vous avez écrit : >Does anyone out there run TSM v 3.1 on an HPUX 10.2 client? >We have to HPUX 10.2 boxes here that for some reason we can't upgrade to >later versions. (the only version that will run is v 3.1) >We can successfully run scheduled backups with one of them.

Re: Version 3.1 client on HPUX 10.2

2001-11-16 Thread Gabriel Wiley
James, We kind of do here, we are a litte more current then your env. Storage Management Server for HP-UX - Version 3, Release 7, Level 0.0 Client OS Level: UX B.11.0 If I can remember correctly, we had a problem a while back, someone changed network settings on the client. Checkout out your

Re: TDP R/3 Restore Problem

2001-11-16 Thread Cook, Dwight E (SAIC)
Uh, I don't remember where I saw it but isn't the old 2.x stuff actually "backint" code where the newer 3.x stuff is the TDP and I don't think you can restore any 2.x stuff with 3.x code I've told all my users that as we upgrade from "backint" 2.4.x.6 code up to "tdp" 3.2.0.x that none of the

Re: include/exclude list

2001-11-16 Thread Thomas A. La Porte
Geoff, What we do is exclude the Oracle database files from backups, then our nightly hot and weekly cold Oracle "backups" use the archive function of TSM. We set up a separate Oracle management class and that archive copy group has very different retention policies than the rest of the managemen

Molly YM Pui/Hong Kong/IBM is out of the office.

2001-11-16 Thread Molly YM Pui
I will be out of the office starting November 17, 2001 and will not return until November 26, 2001. I will respond to your message when I return. For Tivoli matters, you can contact Clovis Leung at 2825-6336 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: WINDOW SIZE on TSM Server 3.7.4

2001-11-16 Thread Joshua S. Bassi
You must change both the client and server window sizes to make the change effective. I would try to change the window size on both client and server to 63 and then test performance in your environment. -- Joshua S. Bassi Independent IT Consultant IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark Tivoli Ce

Re: export node or server on cross platform server migration

2001-11-16 Thread Robin Sharpe
Gabriel, We are in the midst of an AIX to HP migration, but also changing to a new HP library but i don't think tha matters. The issue we have is that you can't backup the TSM database on AIX and restore it on HP-UX. It won't read the tape. They suggested export/import, but we have over

Re: include/exclude list

2001-11-16 Thread Robin Sharpe
Geoff, You are correct in that putting a file into the exclude list has the same effect as if the file was deleted from the client. We took a similar approach to Tom, but instead of excluding the oracle files and archiving them, we dynamically build dsm.opt file for the daily backups that only i

Re: include/exclude list

2001-11-16 Thread Steve Argersinger
UNSUBSCRIBE ADSM-L -Original Message- From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: include/exclude list Will someone please explain the pitfalls of changing the include/exclude list as it relates to this issue.

Re: export node or server on cross platform server migration

2001-11-16 Thread Gabriel Wiley
Robin, I know they say that.. Don't believe it It took 2 1/2 weeks to do it, the export(s) that is . I am on my way out the door right now, nice day, need to ride .. Send me an out of list email and I will return it with some details... HANW Gabriel C. Wiley ADSM/TSM Administrator

TDP for SQL

2001-11-16 Thread Rob Schroeder
I am having trouble using GUI TDP for SQL. Sometimes, not always, I get a message saying "Waiting for SQL server" when trying to restore fulls with incrementals. Some incrementals go on just fine, but others hang. The screen will stay there forever until I end the task from task manager. The s

Re: export node or server on cross platform server migration

2001-11-16 Thread Joe Faracchio
on the VM to AIX we started new and fresh. Harassed our users to switch months in advance and kept the vm system around for 2 extra months. On the same aix but DLT to 3590 we hooked up both and pushed on the system to get it to migrate the onsite pools but had to start a brand new offsite copyp

Re: include/exclude list

2001-11-16 Thread Patrick J. Kelleher
Are you confirming that all but the last copy will be deleted if the file is added to exlude list or will normal expiration run against the files already backed up, until there is one last copy. Thanks Robin Sharpe cc: Se

tsm 4.1 (aix432) syntax question

2001-11-16 Thread Shawn Bierman
Hello, When I try the following command: q actlog msgno= begindate=today I get no results. But, when i try this command: q actlog msgno= begindate=today-1 I get results from the previous day AND today. So, does tsm consider 'today' to be real-time or is 'today' a 24 hour period begin

Alex Mounayar/SMS is out of the office.

2001-11-16 Thread Alex Mounayar
I will be out of the office from 11/16/2001 until 11/29/2001. If this is an emergency and you need immediate help, please page the ASP Day OnCall pager - 1-877-850-5778 --- This message and any included attachments a

Re: TDP for SQL

2001-11-16 Thread Del Hoobler
> I am having trouble using GUI TDP for SQL. Sometimes, not always, I get a > message saying "Waiting for SQL server" when trying to restore fulls with > incrementals. Some incrementals go on just fine, but others hang. The > screen will stay there forever until I end the task from task manager

Re: Licensing MS SQL cluster - managed system for LAN/SAN and TDP licenses?

2001-11-16 Thread Del Hoobler
> And another issue (maybe for another thread) - TDP for applications > products do not include backup/archive/API client license, right? So in > addition to TDP license TSM client license (LAN or SAN) has separately to > be bought? And if I want backup/archive client node and TDP node to be > dif

Re: include/exclude list

2001-11-16 Thread Robin Sharpe
I think that is the case... when you delete a file from a client (or exclude it) TSM invokes the "retain only" criteria. Robin "Patrick J. Kelleher" cc:(bcc: Robin Sharpe/WA/USR/SHG) Su

Re: tsm 4.1 (aix432) syntax question

2001-11-16 Thread Andrew Raibeck
This is a good question. If you look up the syntax of the QUERY ACTLOG command (HELP QUERY ACTLOG from the Admin command line), you'll see that there is another parameter, BEGINTIME, which defaults to the current time minus 1 hour. So if message occurred today, but not within the last hour, t

Re: include/exclude list

2001-11-16 Thread Andrew Raibeck
When you exclude a file from backup processing, any existing backup versions will be treated exactly as if the file were deleted from the file system, so the copygroup attributes VERDELETED, RETEXTRA, and RETONLY will apply, and any existing backup versions will be expired accordingly. Regards,

Re: Client Options Set vs. Client Options File

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
Look at Redbook SG24-5416-01 "Getting Started with Tivoli Storage Manager: Implementation Guide" p.153 (p.173 in the pdf) 7.3.1 Considerations "The options defined in a client option set are a subset of the available client options. Options such as communications are still stored on the client mac

Re: Data Retention - Test results

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
Hello all, I got the result and am presenting it to your attention. It is quite strange from logical point of view but can be explained. The test environment - TSM server v4.1.4.1 on AIX 4.3.3ML6 and TSM Client (if it matters) 3.7.2 on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK) Fixpack XRUM009. So again: 1. A management c

Re: include/exclude list

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
Geof, When a file matches and exclude statement it expires in the same manner as for deletion of the file. After this normal policy according to copygroup settings applies. Yes, you are right - during the work days your backups done at the weekend will expire and be treated as deleted. If retonly

Re: tsm 4.1 (aix432) syntax question

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
Look more carefully the description of the command. "TODAY" is the date/day of the current moment. But if you omit "begintime=hh:mm" it defaults to "now-01:00". So "q actlog msgno=" with or without "begindate=today" will return only if you had this message in the last hour. And if you start th

Re: Backup Offsite

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
Stop the scheduler on the node in question for the period and that is! The node will miss its backup schedule. After you offsite backup scripts finish the scheduler will have to be restarted. And if the scripts fail for some reason the scheduler might not be restarted so be careful. Either restart

Re: Collocation - on or off

2001-11-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
IMHO something close to collocation groupping can be done right now: 1. Using COPY DOMAIN create several "group" domains with same policies 2. Define several pool over same library/devclass 3. Update each "group" domain to refer its corresponding "group" pool 4. Update nodes to become part of grou

Re: W2K 4.2.1 Desktop Archive Client backs up files that are unmo dified

2001-11-16 Thread Seay, Paul
OK, I buy what you are saying. However, the documentation says this is ignored if it is a partial backup. What does "ignored" mean. My question was why when I do -incrbydate it also backs up everything. The documentation seems to indicate that absolute would be ignored. -Original Message-

WinXP incompatible with V3 Server

2001-11-16 Thread Roger Deschner
The only version of the TSM client that works under Windows XP is V4.2.1.15. However, all V4.2.x.x clients are incompatible with any V3 server. This is documented on the Tivoli web page, and I have found it to be true in practice. They simply hang when trying to do a backup. It would be REALLY NI