Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-04 Thread Remco Post
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On dinsdag, september 3, 2002, at 06:16 , Roger Deschner wrote: > > I have had to use the brute force method - "dumb load balancing". That > is, squeezing the database into the shape I want with DELETE DBVOL. > Making this work takes careful advance

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-04 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by:"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:backup performance with db and log on a SAN I recently moved the 36G TSM database and 10G log from attached SCSI disk drives to a SAN. Backing the db no

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN: Facts about 3590 E

2002-09-04 Thread Seay, Paul
nt: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN On maandag, september 2, 2002, at 01:49 , Daniel Sparrman wrote: > Hi Eliza > > As I understand it, each "tape-HBA" has 3 3590E FC connnected to it. > The two 21G da

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-03 Thread Roger Deschner
In my experience, "smart load balancing" does not really exist. I thought I had heard of it, so I went looking on my system to see if it was doing anything to help. If the Database has plenty of room in it, and you add a new extent in hope of spreading out the I/O load, that extent will not be use

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-03 Thread Eliza Lau
Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2002-09-02 12:19 > Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc: > Subject:Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN > > > Thanks D

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-03 Thread Remco Post
On maandag, september 2, 2002, at 01:49 , Daniel Sparrman wrote: > Hi Eliza > > As I understand it, each "tape-HBA" has 3 3590E FC connnected to it. The > two 21G database disks, are each connected to it's own HBA? > > According to spec sheets, the 3590E FC could handle speed up to 100MB/s > with

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-03 Thread Eliza Lau
Roger, Thanks for the detailed analysis. This is what I was planning to do: moved the db back to attahced SCSI drives. Re-configuring one drawer in the Shark to non-RAID as another person suggested is out of the question since TSM is using only a small portion of the Shark. Please read the oth

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-03 Thread Eliza Lau
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Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-03 Thread Christo Heuer
. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Roger Deschner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN What a FASCINATING data point! I think t

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-03 Thread Seay, Paul
Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Adolph Kahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 10:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN You are correct the at 3:1 compression you will not do better than

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-03 Thread Adolph Kahan
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 1:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN Daniel, > > Hi Eliza > > As I understand it, each "tape-HBA" has 3 3590E FC connnected to it. The > two 21G database disks, are each connected to it

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-02 Thread Remco Post
On maandag, september 2, 2002, at 11:26 , Daniel Sparrman wrote: > Hi > > The large disks you are talking about, are you meaning large as 36GB, > 72GB > an so on, or are you talking about LUN-sizes? > Disk size, 72 GB or so > In a shark, you can have very large LUN:s, but they will consist

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-02 Thread Daniel Sparrman
Remco Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2002-09-02 10:48 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: backup performance with db and log on a

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-02 Thread Daniel Sparrman
t; Exist i Stockholm AB > Propellervägen 6B > 183 62 HÄGERNÄS > Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 > Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 > > > > > Remco Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2002-09-02 10:48 > Pl

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-02 Thread Remco Post
On zaterdag, augustus 31, 2002, at 05:18 , Eliza Lau wrote: > I recently moved the 36G TSM database and 10G log from attached SCSI > disk > drives to a SAN. Backing the db now takes twice as long as it used to > (from 40 minutes to 90 minutes). The old > attached disk drives are non-RAID and TSM

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-02 Thread Eliza Lau
> > Paul D. Seay, Jr. > Technical Specialist > Naptheon Inc. > 757-688-8180 > > > -Original Message- > From: Roger Deschner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 2:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: backup performance with

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-01 Thread Seay, Paul
Message- From: Roger Deschner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN What a FASCINATING data point! I think the problem is simply that it is RAID5. The WDSF/ADSM/TSM/ITSM Database is

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-09-01 Thread Roger Deschner
What a FASCINATING data point! I think the problem is simply that it is RAID5. The WDSF/ADSM/TSM/ITSM Database is accessed rather randomly during both normal operations, and during database backup. RAID5 is optimized for sequential I/O operations. It's great for things like conventional email sys

Re: backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-08-31 Thread Seay, Paul
: Eliza Lau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: backup performance with db and log on a SAN I recently moved the 36G TSM database and 10G log from attached SCSI disk drives to a SAN. Backing the db now takes twice as long as it used to

backup performance with db and log on a SAN

2002-08-31 Thread Eliza Lau
I recently moved the 36G TSM database and 10G log from attached SCSI disk drives to a SAN. Backing the db now takes twice as long as it used to (from 40 minutes to 90 minutes). The old attached disk drives are non-RAID and TSM mirrored. The SAN drives are RAID-5 and TSM mirrored. I know I have