Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-29 Thread Bell, Charles (Chip)
Curtis Preston Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:36 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Yeah... This post has really cleared things up for me. Not. ;) Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C:

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-29 Thread Howard Coles
;t mean it "can" run on both at the same time. See Ya' Howard > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Kevin Boatright > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:59 PM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re:

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-29 Thread Curtis Preston
- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thorneycroft, Doug Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:10 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Wouldn't it be nice if we could just issue q lic and pay X$ for each Managed S

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2008-09-29 Thread Thorneycroft, Doug
easy to find statistics. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Howard Coles Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:41 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Steve's response does make more sense, due to the

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-29 Thread Kevin Boatright
nager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Schaub, Steve > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:35 PM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey > > That depends on who you talk to - some Tivoli reps will say that the > VMWare host c

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-29 Thread Kauffman, Tom
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey The license for the TSM client in this case is based upon the VCB proxy server running the TSM client. Kelly Lipp From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schaub, Steve [EMAIL

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-29 Thread Howard Coles
e person. See Ya' Howard > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Schaub, Steve > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:35 PM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey > &

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-29 Thread Schaub, Steve
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey The license for the TSM client in this case is based upon the VCB proxy server running the TSM client. Kelly Lipp From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schaub, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-29 Thread Kelly Lipp
: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey FYI - the waters get even murkier when you start down the VCB path. Try posing this scenario to your Tivoli rep: all VMWare guest backups have been offloaded to VCB proxy servers, and the TSM client has been uninstalled from

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-29 Thread Schaub, Steve
Behalf Of cpreston Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:06 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Wanda Prather wrote: > Licensing is by physical cores. Throw up as many VM clients as you want; you still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physical

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-28 Thread Kelly Lipp
, 2008 8:49 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey One; licensing is by physical cores. Throw up as many VM clients as you want; you still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physical box. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:18 PM, cpreston <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-27 Thread Bill Boyer
DSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey One; licensing is by physical cores. Throw up as many VM clients as you want; you still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physical box. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:18 PM, cpreston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Kelly Lip

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-27 Thread Wanda Prather
Yes, including TDP licenses. I've never seen anything to the contrary. On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 1:06 AM, cpreston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Wanda Prather wrote: > > Licensing is by physical cores. Throw up as many VM clients as you want; > you still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physica

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-27 Thread Kelly Lipp
-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey One; licensing is by physical cores. Throw up as many VM clients as you want; you still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physical box. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:18 PM, cpreston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Kelly Lipp wrote: > > > > &

VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-27 Thread cpreston
Wanda Prather wrote: > Licensing is by physical cores. Throw up as many VM clients as you want; you > still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physical box. > Just to be clear -- that includes TDP licenses? There was a question today on the list ( http://tinyurl.com/47zjbe ) where at least

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-26 Thread Wanda Prather
One; licensing is by physical cores. Throw up as many VM clients as you want; you still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physical box. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:18 PM, cpreston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Kelly Lipp wrote: > > > > > > Most folks are using the TSM Client/Agent within the VM t

VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-09-26 Thread cpreston
Kelly Lipp wrote: > > > Most folks are using the TSM Client/Agent within the VM to do backups. > Cool and you have to love the licensing on that: one client/agent > license (with the appropriate cores figured, naturally) per ESX Server. > VMs don't crap out often so DR is minimal, but it is relativ

VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-06-03 Thread EVILUTION
We have about 300 VMs and back them up via installed client just like any other physical server. I've reviewed the V5.5 code and mass proxy backup option but it doesn't seem to offer enough to warrant new procedures, testing, and configuration changes. In the event of a large disaster our prima

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-06-03 Thread Bill Boyer
needs some testingand the TIME to do it. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Lipp Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Early returns on the quick survey: I hav

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-06-03 Thread Kelly Lipp
.storserver.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thorneycroft, Doug Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:06 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Uh gee Kelly, I was hoping to use STORServers agent to

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-06-01 Thread Remco Post
day, May 29, 2008 4:06 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Uh gee Kelly, I was hoping to use STORServers agent to manage VMware Consolidated Backup. Please don't tell me there's a better way! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist St

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-06-01 Thread חנה דרזי
Luck, Hana -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Arbogast Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:20 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Kelly, We are backing up ESX based virtual machines with the TSM

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-05-30 Thread Keith Arbogast
Kelly, We are backing up ESX based virtual machines with the TSM client. We don't use VCB to backup vmdk files. That decision was made by the ESX admin. He uses esXpress, and is very happy with it and the technical support there. We are not at TSM 5.5, so the 'backup vm' command is not yet there f

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-05-30 Thread Kelly Lipp
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Coles Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 6:54 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Here's a better question: Is Kelly looking for Customers on this list? :-D Why send the message

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-05-30 Thread Kelly Lipp
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Uh gee Kelly, I was hoping to use STORServers agent to manage VMware Consolidated Backup. Please don't tell me there's a better way! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-05-30 Thread Howard Coles
ginal Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Thorneycroft, Doug > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:06 PM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey > > Uh gee Kelly, I was hoping to use STORServers age

Re: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-05-29 Thread Thorneycroft, Doug
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: VMware and TSM Backup - Survey Folks, I'm trying to determine what our community is doing with respect to backing up VMware to TSM. If you are so inclined, please answer and send to me privately. I am interested in understanding the intersection between

VMware and TSM Backup - Survey

2008-05-29 Thread Kelly Lipp
Folks, I'm trying to determine what our community is doing with respect to backing up VMware to TSM. If you are so inclined, please answer and send to me privately. I am interested in understanding the intersection between TSM and VMware... Are you backing up VMware Virtual Machines?