1 then the RMAN
streams are intermixed and are different every time reducing the
Dedupability...
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Ben Bullock
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I'm wondering if there are filesystem fragmentation issues when using
devclass
I'm wondering if there are filesystem fragmentation issues when using
devclass=file on an NFS mounted DD volume. Filesystem fragmentation is an
issue when using devclass=file on most filesystems that I'm aware of. How
long have you been running this way on the DD?
At 06:22 PM 2/26/2008, Ben Bul
g the "q content" command you can pick out the
uncooperative data.
Ben
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Ben,
First, thanks for sharing your experiences. Very enlightening.
I'm curious why you decided to use devclass=file volumes, instead of using
the DD580 as a VTL. It does have a VTL personality, doesn't it?
At 05:39 PM 2/26/2008, Ben Bullock wrote:
TSM config - Easy. Created some "FILE" devic
Neat new technology
Ben
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>About deduplication, Mark Stapleton said:
>
Roger Deschner said:
> We did a financial analysis of dedpue with TSM vs. just simply buying
> more disks, and the more disks solution came in cheaper. Plus a huge
> advantage in simplicity. Those dedupe appliances are expensive! Their
> sales pitch is that they can compress 20:1, so they charge 1
.
We did a financial analysis of dedpue with TSM vs. just simply buying
more disks, and the more disks solution came in cheaper. Plus a huge
advantage in simplicity. Those dedupe appliances are expensive! Their
sales pitch is that they can compress 20:1, so they charge 12 times as
much money. But a
At 10:10 AM 2/15/2008, Colwell, William F. wrote:
I don't see any need for new targeting features, they wouldn't do much in
my 'dream system'.
Bill, here's my thinking:
dedup in TSM isn't gonna come for nothing. It will take additional server
resources to run the fingerprinting, reduction an
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>About deduplication, Mark Stapleton said:
>
> > It's highly overrated with TSM, since TSM doesn't do absolute (full)
> > backups unless such ar
Most large organizations I work with have a "Standard build" for their
systems - the OS, applications, etc - so they only need to backup data (we
do that internally in IBM as well). Minimizes what needs to be backed up,
and makes deploying systems MUCH easier (1 DVD, just over an hour, all
set).
r primary pools.
Thanks,
Bill Colwell
Draper lab
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>About deduplication, Mark Stapleton
About deduplication, Mark Stapleton said:
> It's highly overrated with TSM, since TSM doesn't do absolute (full)
> backups unless such are forced.
At 12:04 AM 2/15/2008, Curtis Preston wrote:
Depending on your mix of databases and other application backup data,
you can actually get quite a bit
About deduplication, Mark Stapleton said:
> It's highly overrated with TSM, since TSM doesn't do absolute (full)
> backups unless such are forced. If you want maximum bang for your buck
> with dedupe, you need to run an app like IBM CommonStore for Email
that
> will enable SIS (single-instance st
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Johnny Lea
> I do have a question on something someone mentioned and that is de-
> deduplication. Are many of you using it and do you consider it an
extra
> level on potential problems? Just curious.
It's highly overrated with
to hijack the Dream Setup... We still have a Dream ... Not
babysitting physical tape!
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.
Didn't intend to hijack the Dream Setup... We still have a Dream ... Not
babysitting physical tape!
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Charles,
You're statement about the SL8500 make me nervous. We are planning to
move to a configuration where we are sharing the SL8500 with our
mainframe. We will use ACSLS with a library manager and 3 clients, 16
LTO3 drives.
Are you having TSM issues? Or
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I miss my old 3494 12 Frame HA Lib with 3592 FC Tape drives, It never
skipped a beat even during a
> But the 3584 we have remotely is
> bloody -fast-. Scary fast.
I flinch evertime I watch the robot in the 3584 and it moves to
the home frame. I keep thinking it's going to fail to stop and break
through the window.
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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 02/14/2008
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> I miss my old 3494 12 Frame HA Lib with 3592 FC Tape drives, It never
> skipped a beat even during and HA Failover, in 2 years only one Service
> call on a 3592 Drive for a Slow Fan... Never lost its inventory like our
> current 3584
>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:38:24 -0600, Johnny Lea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I've thought about replacing the 3590 drives with 3592 but I'm
> thinking a new LTO4 library might be better.
Wanda said some balanced things about 3592 vs. LTO4. I share her
empirical observations, but conclude diff
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On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Wanda Prather wrote:
> OTOH, the LTO4 drives will require a new library. The TS3500 library
> is my favorite library out t
On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Wanda Prather wrote:
OTOH, the LTO4 drives will require a new library. The TS3500
library is my
favorite library out there; it is even more durable than the 3494,
MUCH
faster, and a cleaner interface than the 3494 (no category codes to
deal
with).
In considering l
ay, February 13, 2008 10:38 AM
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> Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM dream setup
>
>
> I'm looking for some ideas for upgrading/replacing my tsm servers and
> libraries. I backup about 800GB per night and have about 250 client
> nodes. I have a 7 year old Sun
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My dream setup has no tape, VTL disk, deduplicated and replicated to an
off-s
11:56 AM
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Johnny,
We are in the process of migrating from an IBM3584 tape library
with 3592 to another IBM3584 with LTO4. When we first got the LTO4 tape
drives (last August) we got occasional I/O errors on them, but after a
couple of
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I'm looking for some ideas for upgrading/replacing my tsm servers and
libraries. I backup about 800GB per night and have about
I'm looking for some ideas for upgrading/replacing my tsm servers and
libraries. I backup about 800GB per night and have about 250 client nodes.
I have a 7 year old Sun server connected to an IBM 3494 with six 3590 drives
and a Dell 6800 with 22TB of disc connected to a LTO3 library.
I've though
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