Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2001-05-05 Thread France, Don G (Pace)
n2K! Regards, Don -Original Message- From: Kelly J. Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Could someone with experience doing large restores w

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2001-05-05 Thread France, Don G (Pace)
- From: France, Don G (Pace) Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli I have two fundamental suggestions, I have not seen item 2 mentioned yet: 1. Use Microsoft folder-copy (be sure to run

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Support

2000-09-22 Thread Prather, Wanda
Hee Hee. Out of the frying pan... So much for that idea! > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Connor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:51 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appea

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Support

2000-09-22 Thread Kelly J. Lipp
PROTECTED] www.storsol.com www.storserver.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Connor Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Suppor

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Support

2000-09-22 Thread Jeff Connor
ST.EDU> on 09/22/2000 01:07:46 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Support

2000-09-22 Thread Prather, Wanda
gt; Joshua S. Bassi > Senior Technical Consultant > Symatrix Technology, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Greazel, Alex > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:44 AM > To: [EMAI

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-22 Thread Blair Wickstrand
is connected to the LAN via Gigabit NIC, George Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/21/2000 10:37:32 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Blair Wickstrand/Poco) Fax to: Subject: Re: Slow restore for

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-22 Thread Mike Glassman - Admin
t extent. I live with it. Sadly, but I do. Mike > -Original Message- > From: Purdon, James [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: ä ñôèîáø 21 2000 15:55 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to > Tivoli > > When r

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-22 Thread Mike Glassman - Admin
chnical Consultant > Symatrix Technology, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Mike Glassman - Admin > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 11:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Slow resto

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-21 Thread Jeff Connor
As the person who started this thread I'd like to thank everyone for their excellent feedback. I'd also like to hear, as Kelly and a few others requested, about and TSM'ers like Blair that also use other products or formally used another product for backing up/restoring Windows NT clients. It wou

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-21 Thread Edward(Ed) J. Finnell, III
With the new copper chips the AS/400s can hit and sustain 4000MIPS. Edward(Ed) J. Finnell, III Enterprise Systems/Proj. Mgr. url:www.ua.edu

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-21 Thread James Healy
Jeff, I'd begin by looking at your Raid array definition. I've found that when you use more then 4 drives in a single array the performance goes in toilet. if you can test it try runninthe same restore to a raid 0 configuration. - Do You Yahoo!? Send instan

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-21 Thread John Wiersma
My experience here has been that Backups fly, Restores snore. My best rate for a restore of files of mixed length, mainly small, has been 1.5 GB /hr from tape. (We are using IBM 3590B drives, soon to become 3590E.) In a test, a restore from the disk pool brought me way up to 1.66 GB/ hour. Yee ha!

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-21 Thread George Yang
Blair, We can restore 13GB in one hour for a fairly medium amount of medium size file by using TSM. But not for a large amount of small files. Can you do 17GB/hr or what ever for a small file systems with ARCserver? What is your wire--LAN or SCSI? George

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-21 Thread Blair Wickstrand
serve. Blair Mike Glassman - Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/21/2000 12:57:47 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Blair Wickstrand/Poco) Fax to: Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. ap

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-21 Thread Joshua S. Bassi
Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Glassman - Admin Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 11:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Kelly, I don't know regarding Arcserve as you couldn't pay me to go near it, b

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-21 Thread Purdon, James
day, September 21, 2000 2:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to > Tivoli > > Kelly, > > I don't know regarding Arcserve as you couldn't pay me to go near it, but > BE > I do know. > > Re

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Support

2000-09-21 Thread Richard Sims
>That may be because from what I have seen in TSM 3.7, directories are >actually kept in the TSM database and not on tape. Careful, there. It depends upon the file system type and added baggage. Ordinary Unix file system directory information is like an empty file, and so its limited info can be

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-21 Thread Mike Glassman - Admin
PROTECTED]] > Sent: ã ñôèîáø 20 2000 23:38 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to > Tivoli > > Could someone with experience doing large restores with ArcServe or > BackupExec provide some performance numbers? I've

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-20 Thread Joshua S. Bassi
2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Could someone with experience doing large restores with ArcServe or BackupExec provide some performance numbers? I've been in shops where the backups were taking a very long time. Longer tha

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Support

2000-09-20 Thread Joshua S. Bassi
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Arturo Lopez Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Support Jeff, I have the same concerns. My company is in the process of server consolidation.

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Development/Support

2000-09-20 Thread Joshua S. Bassi
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greazel, Alex Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Development/Support Can TSM do an image backup on NT? (If it can)That will dramatically decrease the

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Support

2000-09-20 Thread Joshua S. Bassi
ECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Farris, Raeana Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Support Just a thought - T

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Support

2000-09-20 Thread Arturo Lopez
From: Jeff Connor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Development/Support I posted the memo below to this listserv last week wh

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli

2000-09-20 Thread Kelly J. Lipp
ke? I'm hoping another ADSM/TSM user has some tricks or tweaks that can help in this area. Anyone from any universities out there? ____Reply Separator________ Subject: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Author: Jeff Connor <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Development/Support

2000-09-20 Thread George Yang
How so?? George

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Development/Support

2000-09-20 Thread George Yang
We have same problems. It took 6 hrs to restore 220MB with 300,000 small files without DIRMC, with disk DIRMC it reduce to 3 hrs. However it is still too slow. I did test for multi-session--multi drive, it dose not improve much. As long as we use tape, multi session will be limited. Only thing m

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Development/Support

2000-09-20 Thread Kelly J. Lipp
esday, September 20, 2000 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Development/Support Jeff, One thing to show your NT Admins is just how much overhead NTFS has. The way I've done this before is to copy a drive, either locally or over t

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli D evelopment/Support

2000-09-20 Thread Farris, Raeana
D] > Subject: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli > Development/Support > > I posted the memo below to this listserv last week when we were > having trouble with the performance restoring a large NT drive. > This memo is for the people who wanted to know how w

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Development/Support

2000-09-20 Thread Greazel, Alex
Can TSM do an image backup on NT? (If it can)That will dramatically decrease the amount of time it takes to do backups/restores for file systems that have tons of small files.

Re: Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Development/Support

2000-09-20 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis/Raleigh/IBM
Jeff, One thing to show your NT Admins is just how much overhead NTFS has. The way I've done this before is to copy a drive, either locally or over the network. If you take one of the drives with a lot of small files, can copy it, the performance will drop as the copy goes on. The more files y

Slow restore for large NT client outcome.. appeal to Tivoli Development/Support

2000-09-20 Thread Jeff Connor
I posted the memo below to this listserv last week when we were having trouble with the performance restoring a large NT drive. This memo is for the people who wanted to know how we made out in the end. I am also writing to bring to the attention of TSM development what I feel is a pretty big pro