Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-23 Thread Erwann SIMON
di 23 Mars 2016 10:27:58 Objet: Re: [ADSM-L] Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools Erwann, Thanks for your input : I had a look at the video which clarified few points, but not all of them ... One question : if using deduped and compressed pool, shall the "compress

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-23 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
wann SIMON Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:18 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools Hi all, TSM deduplication is effective combined with compression. Without compression, I'm not sure that it worths what it costs (1:2,5 ratio or

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Erwann SIMON
n YouTube (from 7:11) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISWRrkY5RS8 -- Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي Erwann SIMON - Mail original - De: "PAC Brion Arnaud" À: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Envoyé: Vendredi 18 Mars 2016 15:41:06 Objet: [ADSM-L] Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Del Hoobler
Brion Arnaud > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Date: 03/22/2016 10:48 AM > Subject: Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" > > @Del, > > Additional question : if replicating compressed data, will the d

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread J. Pohlmann
Sent: March 22, 2016 07:11 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools Hi David, No. Only newly stored data will be compressed. Del "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrot

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Del Hoobler
> > > > Von:Del Hoobler > An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU, > Datum: 22.03.2016 15:14 > Betreff:Re: [ADSM-L] Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 > and container pools > Gesendet von: "ADSM:

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools Hi, but already client side compressed data isn't affected, isn't it? what if data is replicated. Is that data then compressed? Regards, Alex Von:Del Hoobler An: ADSM-L@VM.

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Alexander Heindl
esman > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Date: 03/22/2016 09:42 AM > Subject: Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" > > Del, > > After upgrading to 7.1.5 is there a way to get pre-existing > container

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Del Hoobler
t; From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On > Behalf Of Del Hoobler > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:53 PM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 > and container pools > > I think most of you know Spect

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread David Ehresman
] Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools I think most of you know Spectrum Protect just added in-line compression to the container and cloud deduplicated pools in version 7.1.5: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread Del Hoobler
good feedback. Thank you, Del "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 03/22/2016 05:36:46 AM: > From: PAC Brion Arnaud > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Date: 03/22/2016 05:37 AM > Subject: Re: Real world deduplication rates wit

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-22 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
communication improvement by IBM ! Of course, only MHO ... Cheers. Arnaud -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Del Hoobler Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Real world deduplication rates with

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-21 Thread Del Hoobler
10:41 AM > Subject: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" > > Hi All, > > We are currently testing TSM 7.1 deduplication feature, in > conjunction with container based storage pools. > So far, m

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-21 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
16 12:15 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools We have around 900 VM's in 2 container pools and we get 35% dedup percentage. Regards, Bas van Kampen On 18-3-2016 15:41, PAC Brion Arnaud wrote: > Hi All, > > We are cu

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-21 Thread Bas van Kampen
We have around 900 VM's in 2 container pools and we get 35% dedup percentage. Regards, Bas van Kampen On 18-3-2016 15:41, PAC Brion Arnaud wrote: Hi All, We are currently testing TSM 7.1 deduplication feature, in conjunction with container based storage pools. So far, my test TSM instances,

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-21 Thread Hans Christian Riksheim
om: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of > Stefan Folkerts > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:32 PM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container > pools > > We see around 50-65% deduplication

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-21 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
ST.EDU] On Behalf Of Stefan Folkerts Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:32 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools We see around 50-65% deduplication savings on the fileclass storagepools, most common seems to be around 55%. It requires w

Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-19 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi All, We are currently testing TSM 7.1 deduplication feature, in conjunction with container based storage pools. So far, my test TSM instances, installed with such a setup are reporting dedup percentage of 45 %, means dedup factor around 1.81, using a sample of clients which are representativ

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-19 Thread Ken Bury
I have two 7.1.4 servers, one with devclass file with dedupe, and the other is using containers. The two servers are in a node replication pair so the data on each server is exactly the same. The workload is almost exclusively vmware backups with datamover dedupe and compression. The data reduction

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-19 Thread Ryder, Michael S
Hi Arnaud If IBM made that commitment in black and white, then you should hold their feet to the fire. But I am willing to bet this was a salesman promising "similar performance." There is no technology I know where any deduplication factor can be guaranteed. Perhaps "UP to 4" for certain kinds

Re: Real world deduplication rates with TSM 7.1 and container pools

2016-03-19 Thread Stefan Folkerts
We see around 50-65% deduplication savings on the fileclass storagepools, most common seems to be around 55%. It requires what I call "deep reclaims" with very low values that need a lot of time. We are seeing 60-70% on containerpools but on average it is more like 65% but that is based on a much s