Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread George Huebschman
If you could post sanitized actlog entries related to that process number, it might help. George Huebschman (George H.) (301) 699-4013 (301) 875-1227 (Cell) From: Tom Taylor To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 04/14/14 02:49 PM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Tom Taylor
I ran it on command and gave it 120 minutes, I understand maybe the time ran out, but I watched it and it did not run for 2 hours. Thomas Taylor System Administrator Jos. A. Bank Clothiers Cell (443)-974-5768 From: George Huebschman To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU, Date: 04/14/2014 02:20 PM Su

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread George Huebschman
How did you get reclamation to run? Did you use storage pool settings or did you run a reclamation command? George Huebschman (George H.) (301) 699-4013 (301) 875-1227 (Cell) The contents of this email are the property of PNC. If it was not addressed to you, you have no legal right to read it.

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread George Huebschman
TSM regards the tape as "FULL" once it reaches full status, and until data is completed expired, deleted, or moved off of it. Your reclamation process might have been successful if it had a time limit and reached the end. As others have suggested, try doing a "move data" on that volser and allow it

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Tom Taylor
So new question then... I made a temp storagepool using my tape library, reclamation picked up and ran, the actlog says that one of the reclaims was successful. when I look at the volume reclaimed its utilization is down to 17%, but it is still marked as "full" so I still can't use it. Does anyone

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Tom Taylor
Thank you everyone, all of this was very helpful. I am new to TSM and honestly still have no idea what I am doing. I think I have resolved my issue. On disk I had literally no volumes with space but I added some scratch tapes to my library and created a temporary reclamation pool using the library.

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
I think next sequence of actions can help: 1) change some policy sets to reduce expire period (some old data will be lost!) ; 2) activate policy set; 3) run "expiry inventory" and, maybe, some volumes will become empty to start reclamation. Good luck! Grigori Solonovitch, Senior Systems Architec

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Nick Marouf
One more thing to consider is you can move some tapes out of the library by using "move media" command. Lets say that you had a bunch at a 100% capacity that does require reclamation, you can eject those, and add scratch tapes. (assuming you have some free tapes as well) move media volnmae stg=poo

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Nixon, Charles D. (David)
If you have a 'filling volume' you can move data from a tape that needs to be reclaimed (with very little data) hence freeing up a new volume. Of course, you may need to adjust reuse delay to get this back as scratch immediately. --- David Nixon S

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Sims, Richard B
By extension, a logical question: Has Expiration been running? (In a neglected TSM server, it might not be, and getting that going could free a bunch of space.) If Expiration has been running, a recourse is to go looking for obsolete nodes and filespaces to dispose of. If your system has USB, y

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Skylar Thompson
It can also use filling volumes, but it can't use empty space on full volumes without reclamation. If there are a bunch of almost-empty full volumes, though, even one scratch tape could free up a bunch more scratch volumes using MOVE or RECLAIM. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 04:20:17PM +, Leonard, M

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Leonard, Matthew
Actually doing the Move data command doesn't require any scratch tapes at all. Have done it a ton of times as we run out of scratch/space all of the time. It's a never ending battle here!! Regards, Matthew J. Leonard Network Infrastructure Administrator IT Network Operations AtlasAir, Inc. ma

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Huebner, Andy
Being that tight, I would suggest you do not look at reclaimation, think move data. That way you can pick a volume, and move it to reclaim the space, then build on that until there is enough space to let reclaimation take over. Reclaim sometimes is not as predictable as you would like. Also c

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Skylar Thompson
This depends on having some scratch/filling volumes available, though. Based on what Tom said, there is no space at all available in any pool. The first step needs to be to get some scratch tapes available, then RECLAIM/MOVE can be a viable option. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 03:58:56PM +, Leonard

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Leonard, Matthew
Tom, When we run into this problem, I'll run the following command after doing a q vol > "c:/vols.txt", opening it into excel and for the tapes that have less than 50% reclaimable I'll run the move data command (see below) MOVE DATA "Volume_name" STGPOOL="Stroage_pool" WAIT=NO RECONSTRUCT=YES

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Skylar Thompson
Hmm, this is a tricky situation. The only way you can use delete without reclamation is to free up entire volumes - just deleting files or filespaces are likely to free up partial volumes, but without reclamation there's no way to take advantage of that. Another option would be buying some more sc

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Tom Taylor
No, that is my problem. I am in kind of a tight spot and we have had numerous Admins leave recently all at once. TSM server has not been attended to lately as it should and has gotten out of hand... so no there is literally NO disk or tape space anywhere that I can temporarily use There would b

Re: reclamation

2014-04-14 Thread Skylar Thompson
Can you provide some space in a DISK or FILE pool, and then set RECLAIMSTGPOOL for the pool that's completely out of space? That will allow reclamation to use space emporarily in the referenced pool. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:33:04AM -0400, Tom Taylor wrote: > In a situation where reclamation wil

Re: Reclamation of Virtual Tapes

2013-01-02 Thread Huebner, Andy
That may be the issue. The DD880 does not reach peak performance until it has 5 shelves, or 80 total disks. Until that point it has more CPU than disk IO. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Schneider, Jim Sent: Wed

Re: Reclamation of Virtual Tapes

2013-01-02 Thread Schneider, Jim
I have a Data Domain 880 with 42 active disks, 6 spares, and 4 system disks. Capacity is 64,678.1 GB. Jim Schneider -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Huebner, Andy Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 8:41 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.

Re: Reclamation of Virtual Tapes

2013-01-02 Thread Alex Paschal
Thanks, Andy. I forgot to include a request for the other side of the coin. On 1/2/2013 6:41 AM, Huebner, Andy wrote: My experience with DataDomain (VTL option) is different than Jim described. I have 2 TSM servers (P6 hardware) using 1 DD. We have not seen a performance difference no matte

Re: Reclamation of Virtual Tapes

2013-01-02 Thread Huebner, Andy
My experience with DataDomain (VTL option) is different than Jim described. I have 2 TSM servers (P6 hardware) using 1 DD. We have not seen a performance difference no matter what is running beyond what you would expect as the 12Gb (ISLs) of available bandwidth is used up. Perhaps the specific

Re: Reclamation of Virtual Tapes

2012-12-28 Thread Alex Paschal
Pierre, Jim, having read your observation of read performance impact with your Data Domain and your DXi, do you guys have thoughts on how you might handle a full server recovery or other large restore during your backup window? Do you think you might be forced to stop all backups in order to g

Re: Reclamation of Virtual Tapes

2012-12-27 Thread Billaudeau, Pierre
I noticed a serious performance drop when our backup primary tapes to copypool runs at night (VTL Quantum DXi8500 to TS1140 tapes). The throughput of backups to VTL drops when the DXi "rehydrates" the deduplicated/compressed virtual tapes. I can imagine the reclamation process does the same thin

Re: Reclamation of Virtual Tapes

2012-12-27 Thread Schneider, Jim
Our primary (and only) storage is a Data Domain. Be careful when reclaiming virtual tapes. It works perfectly but servers backing up to the Data Domain have their bandwidth throughput drop from 85% to 5% during reclamation. This was determined by watching Windows Task Manager network utilizat

Re: Reclamation of Virtual Tapes

2012-12-18 Thread Ehresman,David E.
We reclaim our virtual tapes. They have the same waste patterns as physical tape and are certainly as expensive. David -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee, Gary Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 2:10 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

Re: Reclamation of Virtual Tapes

2012-12-18 Thread Lee, Gary
Sounds like someone set the reclaim storage pool on the virtual tape pool to the physical tape pool. I know of no reason why not to reclaim virtual tapes. Wish I had one to play with. Gary Lee Senior System Programmer Ball State University phone: 765-285-1310 -Original Message- Fro

Re: reclamation question

2011-04-12 Thread Tyree, David
That sounds interesting, I might need to give that a shot. thanks David Tyree  Interface Analyst  South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155 Confidential Notice:  This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and p

Re: reclamation question

2011-04-12 Thread Tyree, David
On occasion I have deleted a vol from a copypool when the percent utilized number dropped to a couple of percent. In our setup we have three identical data pools so we should ok but it's not something I do very often. I have watched the offsite reclamation process sit there for most of an hour o

Re: reclamation question

2011-04-11 Thread Paul Zarnowski
This is close to what we do, but we add "stat=full" to narrow it down better. At 01:38 PM 4/11/2011, Prather, Wanda wrote: >Or just mark them offsite, even though they are still in the library. >You could create a script that does "update vol * wherestgpool=onsitecopy >access=offsite" before you

Re: reclamation question

2011-04-11 Thread Richard Sims
A more draconian method (not recommended) is to perform a Delete Volume for the copy storage pool volumes you would reclaim, where their former content would be freshly written to tape in the next Backup Stgpool. That leaves you with one less copy of the data, of course, so not the best approac

Re: reclamation question

2011-04-11 Thread Prather, Wanda
Or just mark them offsite, even though they are still in the library. You could create a script that does "update vol * wherestgpool=onsitecopy access=offsite" before you start reclamation, then reverse it when reclamation finishes. W -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ma

Re: reclamation question

2011-04-11 Thread Lee, Gary D.
About the only way I can think of to do this is to mark the onsite copy pool volumes as unavailable. This would force data to be pulled from the primary file pool. The reason it does this for the offsite pool, is that offsite volumes are presumed to be unavailable, thus data must be pulled fro

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-12 Thread Ritter, John M
o:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Tyree, David Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 7:46 AM To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: reclamation no longer working I started a reclamation on that pool yesterday afternoon and it sat there for several hours before it finally started moving anything. I guess I got b

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-07 Thread Richard Sims
On May 7, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Johnny Lea wrote: > Bringing offsite tapes back and reclaiming them onsite is much faster; but, > of course, then that data is not offsite. > >Richard Sims http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ > > > Richard, from time to time I've had to do this. After checking in the

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-07 Thread Johnny Lea
Bringing offsite tapes back and reclaiming them onsite is much faster; but, of course, then that data is not offsite. Richard Sims http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ Richard, from time to time I've had to do this. After checking in the tapes and updating them to r/o or r/w TSM doesn't always u

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-07 Thread Tyree, David
I started a reclamation on that pool yesterday afternoon and it sat there for several hours before it finally started moving anything. I guess I got behind doing the reclamation. But that doesn't make any sense because the offsite pool and the onsite pool have the same settings and the same conten

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
> I'm doing a move data now. Or trying too. > The process has been running for about 30 minutes with zero bytes moved. > Nothing showing from a q request, nothing showing from a q mount. All drives > online and plenty of mount points. Have you tried to use straight command in foreground mode "m

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Tyree, David
After about an hour of waiting the move data finally got rolling. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Sims Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:12 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working On

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:11:34 -0400, "Tyree, David" >> said: > I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points up > to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have > plenty of scratch tapes and mount points. Try running one at 99% and _no_ time limit, and exp

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Sims
On May 6, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Tyree, David wrote: > I'm doing a move data now. Or trying too. > > The process has been running for about 30 minutes with zero bytes moved. > Nothing showing from a q request, nothing showing from a q mount. All drives > online and plenty of mount points. > > I w

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Tyree, David
I'm doing a move data now. Or trying too. The process has been running for about 30 minutes with zero bytes moved. Nothing showing from a q request, nothing showing from a q mount. All drives online and plenty of mount points. I would expect it to mount a scratch tape and start moving data pr

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Tyree, David
It's on the calender -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Adamson Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:20 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working David, Seeing as there have been many, many, fi

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Rick Adamson
David, Seeing as there have been many, many, fixes since you release I would consider an upgrade to at least the most recent version of 5.4 As a matter of fact a couple of the 5.4.1.1 apars were reclamation related. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21273797 Thank you, ~Rick -

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Tyree, David
Nope, no mention of waiting on a tape and/or volume -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Adamson Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:29 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working When you query th

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Robert Clark
Not necessarily related to the problem, but 5.4.5 includes a change to the way the TSM serrver selects which offsite volumes to reclaim: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC57009 [RC] From: "Tyree, David" To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 05/06/2010 08:12 AM Subject: [ADSM-L] rec

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Jorge Amil
I recomend you do a move data with 99% tapes. Regards Jorge > Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 11:11:34 -0400 > From: david.ty...@sgmc.org > Subject: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > TSM server 5.4.1.0 running on Windows 2003. > > I h

Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Rick Adamson
When you query the process or mounts does it state that it is waiting on a volume (input or output)? It is possible that one of them is unavailable, and/or mounted by another process. Thank you, ~Rick -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behal

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-28 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
:00 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools It is a command that runs until it reclaims 4 tapes, then it stops. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Moyer, Joni M Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-28 Thread Dwight Cook
You might be running into what I've seen if you are performing your reclamation via RECLaim STGpool. If you have many very low utilized tapes and you do not use an OFFSITERECLAIMLIMIT then it is possible that the reclamation process will only yield another tape going off site and none coming back.

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread David E Ehresman
s Allowed: 9,999 Number of Scratch Volumes Used: 93 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of David E Ehresman Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:01 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools No.

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Moyer, Joni M
eclamation Limit: 4 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed: 9,999 Number of Scratch Volumes Used: 93 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of David E Ehresman Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:01 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Recla

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Moyer, Joni M
space requirement.) Just let me know. Thanks! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Huebschman, George J. Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:00 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools It is a

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread David E Ehresman
essage- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:58 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools Also look at reclaim stg Copy_Pool th=50 OFFSITERECLAIMLimit=4 Thi

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Huebschman, George J.
options are accomplishing. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:58 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools Also look

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Moyer, Joni M
are accomplishing. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:58 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools Also look at

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Moyer, Joni M
[mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:58 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools Also look at reclaim stg Copy_Pool th=50 OFFSITERECLAIMLimit=4 This will reclaim 4 volumes and TSM seems to pick

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
Also look at reclaim stg Copy_Pool th=50 OFFSITERECLAIMLimit=4 This will reclaim 4 volumes and TSM seems to pick the four at or above the 50% threshold. We have gotten behind a few times and we use this to speed the reclaim process. This also reduces the time TSM spends figuring out what tapes

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Shawn Drew
Ah, I've been through this many times. As someone mentioned, stepping down by setting the threshhold to 99, then 98 and so on over time will work well. This is assuming you can fit all of your primary pool volumes into the tape library. You can use the following select command to keep track of

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Andrew Carlson
I totally agree on this. At one time, we had such a time with offsite reclamation, we would set it to 99, then have a script run checking for reclamation processes, and bump the number down by 1 if there were none. A hack, to be sure, but we eventually caught up. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:31 AM,

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Howard Coles
hope it would. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Huebschman, George J. Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:05 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools This is not true,"Can I do a

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Bob Levad
ught up as reclamation just isn't accomplishing what I hope it would. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Huebschman, George J. Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:05 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclamation for

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Huebschman, George J.
Joni, Yes it does. I was just pointing out that with the move data command, you specify the volumes, whereas with reclamation, TSM does the prework of selecting volumes. This can be time consuming, as David points out. Geo IMPORTANT: E-mail sent through the Internet is not secure. Legg

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread David E Ehresman
What level are you setting for reclamation. I have found that in a catch-up situation, it is best to set the reclamation level high (e.g. 99 or 98) and get the easy (almost empty) tapes first, and then step the value down over time until you get caught up to a level you want to be at. This was

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Richard Sims
If reclaiming copy storage pool tapes which are marked as Offsite, the Move Data would utilize the data copy present on the in-library primary storage pool tapes. Do the analysis of what's happening when your reclamation is running. The more extreme the collocation, the more tape mounts will b

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Moyer, Joni M
would. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Huebschman, George J. Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:05 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools This is not true,"Can I do a m

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Moyer, Joni M
Behalf Of Huebschman, George J. Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:59 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools Are you using any collocation settings? They can affect your reclamation efficiency. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Huebschman, George J.
This is not true,"Can I do a move data from 1 copy storage pool volume to the another volume within the same copy storage pool?" That is what reclamation does for you without you specifying individual volumes. You use a reclamation threshold in a command or a storage pool threshold and TSM picks t

Re: Reclamation for offsite storage pools

2010-01-27 Thread Huebschman, George J.
Are you using any collocation settings? They can affect your reclamation efficiency. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Moyer, Joni M Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:54 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Reclamation f

Re: Reclamation Processing won't start

2009-11-24 Thread Maura Adams
I believe I may have the same problem. It was a TS1120 to TS1130 upgrade. Pools were appropriately renamed and created and a new devclass created. Maxscratch - plenty. Bumped reclamation values all around on onsite and offsite pools and still no reclamation. Mount points verified and availabl

Re: Reclamation Processing won't start

2009-11-23 Thread Roger Deschner
If you are trying to get TSM to move data to a new format of tape, and it's a different DEVCLASS, then you need to set this up with Migration rather than Reclamation. It's not difficult to set up, and it's easy to control. I moved 100tb of data from SDLT to LTO4 mostly by migration, over a several

Re: Reclamation Processing won't start

2009-11-23 Thread Hart, Charles A
Seen this to - adjust reclaim percent and # of processes (TSM 5.5.2) yet no reclaim runs. I did get it work and it seems the only way I get it to work is make sure there are no other processes running against those pools like a backup stgpool or migration (depending if you're reclaiming primary or

Re: Reclamation Processing won't start

2009-11-23 Thread Howard Coles
If you are trying to get TSM to move the data to a new Tape Format (increased density and/or tape type) you would be better served to run a move data command. I'm assuming you have created a new storage pool if you've gone to a higher capacity drive type. However, 99% means that the tapes have to

Re: Reclamation Processing won't start

2009-11-23 Thread Huebschman, George J.
Double check the Drive and Path configurations Be certain that the existing tapes are accurately defined in the new device class. Have you ever used the "Reclaim" command? You can force start a reclamation process that way also: Syntax >>-RECLaim STGpool--pool_name--+--+

Re: Reclamation query

2009-05-27 Thread Steven Langdale
Richard Thanks for the quick reply, I think I'll have to revisit the current reclamation percentages. Bit of a design flaw though I think, it's a shame TSM can't just move the tiny segment on the volume I actually want to reclaim. Thanks Steven Langdale Global Information Services EAME SAN/St

Re: Reclamation query

2009-05-27 Thread Richard Sims
On May 27, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Steven Langdale wrote: So I'm assuming that to reclaim a volume, if it has a file segment on it, the WHOLE file needs to be moved? Is this a correct assumption? Yes. The unit of reclamation is a Physical File: In the case of small (logical) files, that unit would

Re: Reclamation

2009-03-05 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:28:00 +1100, Steven Harris said: > The easiest reclamation is the one you don't do, so place TDP data > or archives that will expire in strict time sequence into their own > storage pools and resist the temptation to reclaim at all. You may > need to schedule a once a mo

Re: Reclamation

2009-03-04 Thread Steven Harris
James A few things come to mind. The easiest reclamation is the one you don't do, so place TDP data or archives that will expire in strict time sequence into their own storage pools and resist the temptation to reclaim at all. You may need to schedule a once a month reclamation just to clean up

Re: Reclamation

2009-03-04 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
How big are the virtual tapes? A tape to tape copy on a VTL is going to run as fast as the slowest point, either the VTL or the TSM server. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lepre, James Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2

Re: Reclamation

2009-03-04 Thread Lepre, James
Hello Everyone, I was wondering is there a way to make reclamation for TSM more efficient. For instance moving data around before you start reclamation? Does anyone have any ideas? The reason I am asking is that I am using a VTL, and to reclamate a single tape takes about 90minutes at 6

Re: Reclamation

2008-12-09 Thread Bos, Karel
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Re: Reclamation

2008-12-09 Thread Stephan Boldt
...of course I meant RECLAMATION and not MIGRATION... ;) 2008/12/9 Mark Stapleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When TSM tries to access a file for any purpose (restore, reclamation, > etc.), it will ALWAYS try to use a copy of the file residing in a > disk-based device class storage pool--even if the fi

Re: Reclamation

2008-12-09 Thread Stephan Boldt
So, if your diskpool is large enough, relamation would only need the target tape and NOT the source tape? (because all data that is moved during migration is also cached on disk!) Is this true? kind regards, Stephan 2008/12/9 Mark Stapleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When TSM tries to access a file f

Re: Reclamation

2008-12-09 Thread Mark Stapleton
When TSM tries to access a file for any purpose (restore, reclamation, etc.), it will ALWAYS try to use a copy of the file residing in a disk-based device class storage pool--even if the file isn't available (due to disk downage). -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) CDW Berbee System engineer 7

Re: Reclamation

2008-12-09 Thread Stephan Boldt
Just a dumb question: Is there a possibility to do the reclamation of the primary tape pools via the cached data in the disk pools? kind regards, Stephan 2008/12/8 Allen S. Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:27:46 -0500, "Lepre, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > > > I have a

Re: Reclamation

2008-12-08 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:27:46 -0500, "Lepre, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I have a question on how reclamation works. I have a small library > with 24 slots and 2 Drives. When I start reclamation say at 90% it > puts in tape 1 and then put in another tape to reclamate to. It > then ask f

Re: Reclamation

2008-12-08 Thread Lepre, James
Hello Everyone, I have a question on how reclamation works. I have a small library with 24 slots and 2 Drives. When I start reclamation say at 90% it puts in tape 1 and then put in another tape to reclamate to. It then ask for tapes that are not in the library so I am constantly checking

Re: Reclamation doesn't always respect duration

2008-12-07 Thread Howard Coles
That's what I was thinking. It appeared that only 290.7 GB was reclaimed, that should not have taken 12 hours. I would almost bet there was another process, or client using the tape this process needed to finish copying a file. See Ya' Howard > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Sto

Re: Reclamation doesn't always respect duration

2008-12-06 Thread Wanda Prather
Agreed, but 6 hours seems excessive - that would imply that something was preventing TSM from finishing the reclaim of an aggregate, or that completing the aggregate took 6 hours - That should be TERABYTES of data and many output tapes! John, do you know of anything in your environment that would

Re: Reclamation doesn't always respect duration

2008-12-06 Thread Richard Sims
This is, unfortunately, another instance of the information provided to the documentation people not being truly reflective of what the software does, so what we read in the manual about this is incorrect. See doc APAR IC58214 for details. Richard Sims

Re: Reclamation doesn't always respect duration

2008-12-05 Thread Remco Post
On Dec 6, 2008, at 0:18 , Schneider, John wrote: Greeetings, We are running TSM server 5.4.3 on an AIX 5.3ML5 server. We have some scripts that issue reclaim commands as soon as the backup db, prepare, and expire inventory are run. They calculate how many minutes are left until 11pm, then i

Re: Re: reclamation

2008-11-12 Thread Scott Bellew
Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheung, Richard Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Re: reclamation Okay... but either way, how does one then execute a manual reclamation process to get these tapes back at a certain thre

Re: reclamation

2008-11-11 Thread Roger Deschner
. Richard - it is not reclaiming anything, because you don't have any tapes to reclaim. The script you are using that shows tapes awaiting reclamation at 99% utilized is misleading you. That is showing you how many tapes you could reclaim if you set the threshold to 1. The basic prioblem is that %

Re: reclamation

2008-11-10 Thread David Bronder
gt;=$2 ---cut--- > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Cheung, Richard > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:48 PM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Re: reclamation > > Okay... but either

Re: Re: reclamation

2008-11-10 Thread Jim Neal
: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheung, Richard Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Re: reclamation Okay... but either way, how does one then execute a manual reclamation process to get these tapes back at a certain

Re: Re: reclamation

2008-11-10 Thread Cheung, Richard
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Re: reclamation Hi Richard, Percent utilized is not the same as percent reclaimable. They're apples and oranges. If you use pct_reclaim, you'll get what you want. : ) Jim -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: Re: reclamation

2008-11-10 Thread Jim Neal
nt: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:38 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Re: reclamation I am using a SQL query to query how many tapes to be reclaimed at a certain level Select count(*) from volumes where (stgpool_name='tapepool' and upper(status)='FULL' and pct_u

Re: Re: reclamation

2008-11-10 Thread Cheung, Richard
TED] On Behalf Of David Bronder Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2008 9:57 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Re: reclamation Cheung, Richard wrote: > > Just to clarify - is that command going to permanently alter my stgpool > reclaim thresholds?? Or is that the command to do a m

Re: Re: reclamation

2008-11-10 Thread David Bronder
Cheung, Richard wrote: > > Just to clarify - is that command going to permanently alter my stgpool > reclaim thresholds?? Or is that the command to do a manual > reclamation? Why doesnt reclaim stgpool threshold=99 work? Jim's command alters the storage pool settings for reclamation (for the t

Re: reclamation

2008-11-10 Thread Cheung, Richard
I don't necessarily want to modify the current reclamation threshold value on my tape storage pool (currently at 60) But I do want to do some manual reclamations to gain back some of these volumes at > 99% - some one off processes... I would have thought issuing manual "reclaim stgpool thresho

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