Re: Strange TSM diskpool performance issue

2013-02-11 Thread Stefan Folkerts
Thank's all for the reply's, it's not a log/db/diskpool contrain issue because I was making a backup of a single 150GB SQL database, that should not result in many iop's to the log/db. I am going to try the filepool thing with some private volumes that I can migrate during the housekeeping to see i

Re: Strange TSM diskpool performance issue

2013-02-11 Thread Michael Prix
Hi Stefan, that's what IBM told us. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Michael Prix On 02/11/2013 01:46 PM, Stefan Folkerts wrote: Thanks Michael, so the use of the filepool storagepool type does not set the O_SYNC flag (and therefor uses the cache on the raid controller) but a normal diskpool does (

Re: Strange TSM diskpool performance issue

2013-02-11 Thread Ryder, Michael S
Stefan: I've seen this on other applications besides TSM, and in those cases it was all about tuning the application, after all efforts were made to make sure the hardware wasn't the bottleneck. How much memory does your SCSI controller have for cache? Are each of your arrays on separate SCSI b

Re: Strange TSM diskpool performance issue

2013-02-11 Thread Neil Strand
Stefan, It may be that all (or an unintended mixed subset(i.e. 1 log, 2 DB and 3 STGPOOL disks) of the disks are on a single I/O channel resulting in a bottleneck on the data path. This would be reflected by high IO (combined DB,LOG and STGPOOL activity) during a backup to disk while comparativ

Re: Strange TSM diskpool performance issue

2013-02-11 Thread Richard Rhodes
> Thanks Michael, so the use of the filepool storagepool type does not set > the O_SYNC flag (and therefor uses the cache on the raid controller) but a > normal diskpool does (and therefor doesn't use the cache)? It's also possible that part of what you are seeing is the Raid5 write penalty. The d

Re: Strange TSM diskpool performance issue

2013-02-11 Thread Stefan Folkerts
Thanks Michael, so the use of the filepool storagepool type does not set the O_SYNC flag (and therefor uses the cache on the raid controller) but a normal diskpool does (and therefor doesn't use the cache)? On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Michael Prix wrote: > Hi Stefan, > > I assume with dis

Re: Strange TSM diskpool performance issue

2013-02-11 Thread Michael Prix
Hi Stefan, I assume with diskpool you mean primary pools devicetype disk. Create a filepool on the internal disks and measure performance against it. If this is as expected, the internal RAID-controller honors the O_SYNC-writes TSM uses for diskpools and in this case the cache of the RAID-contr

Re: Strange TSM diskpool performance issue

2013-02-11 Thread Stefan Folkerts
Hi Chavdar, If it would be the raidcontroller I would expect a CIFS copy to be slow as well but it is not, a LAN based CIFS copy to the same disk the diskpool is on is fast, the disk is only slow when using it with TSM. Regards, Stefan On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Chavdar Cholev wrote:

Re: Strange TSM diskpool performance issue

2013-02-10 Thread Chavdar Cholev
Hi Stefan, if it is HP server check to you have cache battery on RAID (if any) I had simmilar issue, when I do backup form disk to LTO it was ~80-90 MB/s, but when nodes baked up to this disk stg it was ~8-10 MB/s even I have etherchannel 2x1Gbps ... Regards Chavdar On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:55 PM