Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-27 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
We run RedHat exclusively (for Linux - all other *NIX are SUN boxes) and ALL of our TSM servers are RH4 or above using fibre-attached TS1120/1130 drives. There used to be issue with the IBM supplied tape drivers being kernel level dependent and we had to hold back on updating the OS until IBM

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-27 Thread Steven Langdale
Steve Raises a good point. I've not used TSM on Linux for a couple of years now, but I do remember plenty of tape driver issues. For those who have used it more recently, is it better? (btw Redhat Only shop here) Thanks Steven Steven Langdale Global Information Services EAME SAN/Storage Plan

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-27 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:09:05 +1100, Steven Harris >> said: > Would it be reasonable to consider Intel/Solaris to get an > industrial strength OS on commodity hardware? Meh, Solaris. also-ran? Solaran.. ? I know that's blasphemy in some circles, but Sun is not even a shadow of what it on

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-26 Thread Remco Post
On 27 okt 2009, at 01:09, Steven Harris wrote: Allen, I see your point on the hardware side, but what about all the various flaky driver issues with Linux. Would it be reasonable to consider Intel/Solaris to get an industrial strength OS on commodity hardware? and you thought that solarisX86

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-26 Thread Steven Harris
Allen, I see your point on the hardware side, but what about all the various flaky driver issues with Linux. Would it be reasonable to consider Intel/Solaris to get an industrial strength OS on commodity hardware? Where's AIX for Intel when you need it! Regards Steve Steven Harris AIX and TSM

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-26 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:57:20 +0330, Mehdi Salehi >> said: > According to IBM, AIX outperforms Linux on the same box between 5% > to 10%. Maturity, flexibility and reliability of AIX and POWER > architecture in my opinion make it a far better choice for such a > critical service. (I am not a

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-24 Thread Remco Post
On 23 okt 2009, at 21:46, Kelly Lipp wrote: I found it! http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp4362.pdf Actually a fairly fun read. Way cool technology. I'm sure it will show up in the pSeries soon anyway so the hardware issues become further blurred. I's good to know that at leas

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-23 Thread Kelly Lipp
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Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-23 Thread Paul Zarnowski
I didn't read the whole thing, but it looks like there are only 7 I/O slots? Does it have RIO drawers similar to the higher end pSeries? At 03:46 PM 10/23/2009, Kelly Lipp wrote: >I found it! > >http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp4362.pdf > >Actually a fairly fun read. Way cool tech

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-23 Thread Kelly Lipp
I found it! http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp4362.pdf Actually a fairly fun read. Way cool technology. I'm sure it will show up in the pSeries soon anyway so the hardware issues become further blurred. Kelly Lipp Chief Technical Officer www.storserver.com 719-266-8777 x7105 STOR

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-23 Thread Kelly Lipp
Paul, Yes, the bus structures are similar and in the x M2 variants faster. I just attempted to lay my hands on a the technical paper I read about this to no avail and I'm struggling to recreate the search I used to find it originally. When I went after that is was my intent to confirm that th

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-23 Thread Paul Zarnowski
Kelly, At 11:27 AM 10/23/2009, Kelly Lipp wrote: >If one reads the IBM documentation on the latest x3850/x3950 M2 one will >observe that the data paths within that architecture are actually faster than >in the latest pSeries hardware. I'm curious - does your analysis include the number of busse

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-23 Thread Kelly Lipp
I studied this in some detail as it obviously comes up often in my practice. If one reads the IBM documentation on the latest x3850/x3950 M2 one will observe that the data paths within that architecture are actually faster than in the latest pSeries hardware. That said, Windows or Linux ineffi

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-23 Thread Richard Sims
On Oct 23, 2009, at 4:27 AM, Mehdi Salehi wrote: According to IBM, AIX outperforms Linux on the same box between 5% to 10%. ... Well, there is a single AIX product, but many versions of Linux (unfortunately). Without a citation for the claim, it's not clear that the assertion is true. A furt

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-23 Thread Shawn Drew
# IMNSHO, IBM pSeries hardware is the best there is for large I/O # workloads. I've seen AIX do things that Linux wouldn't survive. I've always wondered about this. We have p570s and we can throw anything at them, and they won't even breath hard. But if you spent $100K on p-series, and $100K on

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-23 Thread Jerry Michalak
I had a similar setup about 2 years ago and ran into some throughput problems also. First, you need to measure the speed of tape output when doing migrations, disk-to-tape, and some sort of tape-to-tape processes. I found with my setup that I was getting faster transfer speed when doing tape-to

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-23 Thread Mehdi Salehi
According to IBM, AIX outperforms Linux on the same box between 5% to 10%. Maturity, flexibility and reliability of AIX and POWER architecture in my opinion make it a far better choice for such a critical service. (I am not against Intel) I wonder why you don't configure lan-free scenario instead

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-23 Thread Remco Post
On 23 okt 2009, at 00:13, Dury, John C. wrote: We are currently running TSM server v5530 under AIX. The AIX server has a mixture of different speed (266mhz and 133mhz, both 64bit) PCI- X slots. With 4 4g HBAs. Our system is connected to a Clariion CX3-80 where the TSM DB and Recovery Log and Dis

Re: Performance and migration: AIX vs Linux

2009-10-22 Thread Xav Paice
- "John C. Dury" wrote: > > 1.How hard is it to move from an AIX TSM server box to a Linux > TSM server? I'm hoping it's as easy as building the new box (tape > drive,stg pool etc) and then restoring the DB and tweaking the new > config. I know there is more to it than that but witho