Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-29 Thread Delroy Blake
Grigor, With large sata/fata drives recover can take a long time and during that time one could loose a second disk drive which with RAID 5 would result in total data loss. RaID6 provides two sets of independent party calculations P is one set and Q the other so you can have dual disk failure

Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-29 Thread Tchuise, Bertaut
Grigori, Regarding the point made below: >>1) migration is totally controlled by TSM Server and depends on number of >>nodes and number of migration processes. I am afraid to overlap migration >>activity and backup/restore operations.<< I don't know how big your disk pool is but you should be a

Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-29 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
RAID6 came together with FATA 900GB disks. IBM does not support RAID5 on so big disks (only RAID10 and new RAID6). Difference in arrays is: RAID5 - 6+P+S, RAID6 - 5+P+Q+S. I do not know what is drive Q, but it allows to recover big disks faster. Grigori G. Solonovitch Senior Technical Architect

Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-29 Thread Steven Langdale
Hello Grigori Quite new then if you're using raid 6. In that case, I'd not worry too much about fragmentation. If you have more than a couple arrays for each of the FATA drives, the data is probably going to be all over the drives anyway. steven Steven Langdale Global Information Services EA

Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-29 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Hello Steven, We have IBM DS8100 with: - 146GB Enterprise disks (RAID5) for data; - 500GB FATA (RAID5) for backup and archive data; - 900GB FATA (RAID6) for backup and archive data. DS8100 is shared by nodes and TSM Server using different arrays for data and backup data. Regards, Grigori G.

Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-28 Thread Steven Langdale
Hello Grigori What SAN have you got, and is it shared storage? I ask because there has been discussion on FS fragmentation but surely this is meaningless if your using a SAN. Steven Langdale Global Information Services EAME SAN/Storage Planning and Implementation ( Phone : +44 (0)1733 584175 (

Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-28 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Hello Christian, Thank you very much for your proposal. I understand that it is much easier to use migration, but I am still going to use procedure based on data movement because of: 1) migration is totally controlled by TSM Server and depends on number of nodes and number of migration pro

Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-28 Thread Tchuise, Bertaut
Grigori, Your process below works; I would have done the same as Christian Svensson that is migrating all the data off of the Disk storage pool to the next storage pool (what hierarchy do you have in your environment: Disk -> VTL -> Tape or Disk -> Tape?? ). Depending on the number of tape drives