Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-03-02 Thread ARhoads
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Idea for a TSM feature > > -Original Message- > > From: James Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:51 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subj

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Seay, Paul
OK, I understand the requirement, but I doubt many people would use it because it essentially requires a duplicate copy of your used disk space on each client that is involved. Run this select. It will give you an answer in MB of the space required to do what you are asking. You can add where o

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Kyle Sparger
Right now, AFAIK, there's no way to influence how Tivoli makes decisions about which files to remove from the migrated file cache -- I think adding ways to influence those decisions would probably be better than to add a 'special' disk storage pool type. The ability to say "Okay, if there's a sho

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Richard Cowen
> -Original Message- > From: James Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:51 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Idea for a TSM feature ... > This would not break anything with TSM. It is really simple > to get in a state

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Doug Thorneycroft
Cascanette [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Idea for a TSM feature However what would happen if you were on a DR and you needed to perform a Point in Time restore. Keeping only the active files would not necessary be the

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Doug Thorneycroft
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: George Lesho/Partners/AFC) Fax to: Subject: Re: Idea for a TSM feature With current/future tape technology the most important thing for performance is to be able to stream data to and from the

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Matthew A. Bacchi
>The feature that I would like to see is the ability to create a special disk > storage pool, that would only migrate inactive versions of backup objects to > the next storage pool. This would keep all the active versions on disk > storage. > > I'm sure everyone has certain nodes(systems) that ar

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread George Lesho
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: George Lesho/Partners/AFC) Fax to: Subject: Re: Idea for a TSM feature With current/future tape technology the most important thing for performance is to be able to stream data to and from the

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Doug Thorneycroft
, February 27, 2002 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Idea for a TSM feature Yes, but one thing to keep in mind is that most people would also want to keep the "Last Version" also, even if it is inactive. The reason is that if someone deletes a file, the next day it would b

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread James Thompson
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idea for a TSM feature >So you are saying to separate the active/inactive versions from the = tapes? That would be the net effect for files that were sent to this special = disk storage pool

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread James Thompson
As long as it is a onesy/twosy type operation, going to tape does not incur a large performance penalty, so restores of the 'Last Version' would not in my opinion, as it relates to this feature, be that critical. This feature would be more geared toward operations that typically require a lot of

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Joe Cascanette
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idea for a TSM feature >So you are saying to separate the active/inactive versions from the tapes? That would be the net effect for files that were sent to this special disk storage pool. Only inactive versions would be on the next storage pools. However t

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread James Thompson
With current/future tape technology the most important thing for performance is to be able to stream data to and from the tape drive. Certain TSM operations stream data to tape really well (migration). Due to the granularity of TSM (file level) retreiving data from tape is normally not streamed.

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Alex Paschal
al Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Doug Thorneycroft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Idea for a TSM feature Yes, I posed a similar question a month or so ago, My i

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Doug Thorneycroft
Yes, I posed a similar question a month or so ago, My idea was to add a switch to migration that would migrate only inactive files. This way you could restore an entire server using multiple sessions, without needing to use collocation or worry about tape contention. -Original Message-

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Richard Cowen
I am sure others will reply, but why not use large cached primary disk pools? If you need to, define a separate pool for each "important" client, large enough to hold a "full" backup. That way, all the active files will usually be in the pool. (Exceptions will break this, eg a big file that chang

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread James Thompson
>So you are saying to separate the active/inactive versions from the tapes? That would be the net effect for files that were sent to this special disk storage pool. Only inactive versions would be on the next storage pools. However tape backup storage pools would still have both active/inactiv

Re: Idea for a TSM feature

2002-02-27 Thread Joe Cascanette
So you are saying to separate the active/inactive versions from the tapes? -Original Message- From: James Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Idea for a TSM feature Thought I would throw an idea I had for a TSM f