Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-20 Thread TSM_User
Yes it still works that way when you don't specify a DIRMC. Kyle fred johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone know if TSM still puts directories in the mgmtc with the longest retention period? On one of my machines, that belongs to a special group of machines with all sorts of special han

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-20 Thread fred johanson
Does anyone know if TSM still puts directories in the mgmtc with the longest retention period? On one of my machines, that belongs to a special group of machines with all sorts of special handling. I've used DIRMC to ensure the directory of some desktop doesn't get treated in the same way. At 01:

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread Rushforth, Tim
h 19, 2005 3:17 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. Paul, It is definitely, absolutely, positively, seen it myself - fixed Been fixed for years. Forget DIRMC. Ken > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist St

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread TSM_User
Paul, Using a separate pool for directories is something that many have been doing for a long time and just kept doing even after IBM implemented the new directory restore method (restore order processing). If you look at a directory as a small file then you can see why keeping it in a separate

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread Kenneth & Susan Bury
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance > issues resolved or not. > > > Hi Richard, > > I took a look through the Quickfacts (something I should have > done long ago). It does indeed suggest that surrogate > directories are created

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Fielding
Hi Richard, I took a look through the Quickfacts (something I should have done long ago). It does indeed suggest that surrogate directories are created and the real directories are restored as they are hit. Has anyone really observed this to be genuinely true? I have in the past observed the doub

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread Richard Sims
Paul - This generally falls under the TSM term Restore Order processing. We've discussed it on the List before. I have an entry on it in ADSM QuickFacts which you can refer to as a preliminary to further pursuit in IBM doc. Richard Simshttp://people.bu.edu/rbs On Mar 19, 2005, at 3:06 AM, Pau

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Fielding
into this on multiple occasions, even when all files were on disk, tape mounts would occur because the directories were on tape. Thanks, Tim Rusforth City of Winnipeg -Original Message- From: TSM_User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 3/16/2005 6:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Cc: Subject: Re:

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread TSM_User
DU Cc: Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. It is fixed but the reason there have been suggestions to use a file type device class is because disk pools unline sequential pools are scanned from begining to end for every storage pool backup. I hav

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Steve Bennett
Storage pools consist of one or more volumes, generally disk or tape. The storage pool gets its volumes via the device class which has a maxscr setting to limit the volume count and max capacity to estimate or assign the max size of the volume. The device class also points to a directory which in t

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Mike
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Steve Bennett might have said: > Wanda, > > I just added a sata disk array in TSM v5.2 so I'll jump in here. > > If you are using one disk partition in Windows for the device class then > you can let TSM define the number of vols it needs up to maxscr or out > of disk conditio

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 07:38:16AM -0500, Richard Sims wrote: > blocks of 256 KiB minimum...". Could you provide a documentation or web > site reference for that 5.3 change? No, sorry. Just the info I received through the PMR. I made the suggestion to include this in e.g. a README, and that sugge

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Rushforth, Tim
n but this is not the case (at least on windows, on 5.2.2.4 - discussed on the list). Tim -Original Message- From: Steve Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:09 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues r

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Prather, Wanda
Tim/Steve Thanks - got it! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rushforth, Tim Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:17 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. 1. You

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Rushforth, Tim
ED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. Tim: We are looking at using all disk now for our onsite disk pool with our next capital$ buy. Something I've never been sure of - Whenf you u

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Steve Bennett
it somehow? Thanks Wanda -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rushforth, Tim Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:31 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. It is fixed

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Prather, Wanda
2) Do reclaims happen by themselves, or do you have to force it somehow? Thanks Wanda -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rushforth, Tim Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:31 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclam

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Richard Sims
Jurjen - In this thread, and the "Minor gotcha on upgrade to 5.3" thread, you indicate that TSM 5.3 has changed things such that "...the handling of FILE volumes was changed. All writes to such a volume is now done in blocks of 256 KiB minimum...". Could you provide a documentation or web site refe

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:29:50PM -0600, Rushforth, Tim wrote: [DIRMC] > What in 5.3 warrants new consideration? Probably the fact that sequential volumes are written to in blocks of at least 256 KB, even when the data is only 1500 bytes. This can cause a lot of overhead, and the effecti

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread Paul Fielding
- Original Message - in a much faster backup. Now all that being said this new feature in V5.3 warrents new consideration. My new consideration is to stop using DIRMC pools as the reason they were created in the first place has also long been fixed. Which reason is this that has been fixe

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread Rushforth, Tim
directories were on tape. Thanks, Tim Rusforth City of Winnipeg -Original Message- From: TSM_User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 3/16/2005 6:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Cc: Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread TSM_User
It is fixed but the reason there have been suggestions to use a file type device class is because disk pools unline sequential pools are scanned from begining to end for every storage pool backup. I have had some customers that have millions of directories in their DIRMC pool. Even when none ch

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread Thorneycroft, Doug
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:31 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. It is fixed (somewhere around 5.1.5.2). -Original Message- From: Thorneycroft, Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread Rushforth, Tim
It is fixed (somewhere around 5.1.5.2). -Original Message- From: Thorneycroft, Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:25 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. OK, after spending a large portion