Re: Isilon Backup

2013-01-07 Thread Skylar Thompson
ve -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Allen S. Rout Sent: 17 December 2012 20:09 To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Isilon Backup On 12/17/2012 02:42 PM, Huebner, Andy wrote: Just general questions on Isilon backup. How

Re: Isilon Backup

2013-01-07 Thread Allen S. Rout
On 01/07/2013 04:44 AM, Kirk S. wrote: > > Allan - would you be happy to give some idea of the size of your > Isilon setup? We're being asked about backing it up to tape now and > have a number of concerns. > It's early days; our actual current occupation is in the teens of terabytes. Our initial

Re: Isilon Backup

2013-01-07 Thread Kirk S.
t: Re: [ADSM-L] Isilon Backup On 12/17/2012 02:42 PM, Huebner, Andy wrote: > Just general questions on Isilon backup. > How do you backup your Isilon, NDMP or CIFS/NFS? > NDMP FC to tape or Ethernet through the TSM server? > Our current state (in implementation now) is: + Default,

FW: [ADSM-L] Isilon Backup

2012-12-17 Thread Prather, Wanda
W -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Skylar Thompson Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 3:02 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Isilon Backup We only backup via NFS (we have no ACLs so CIFS would be an unnecessary and hu

Re: Isilon Backup

2012-12-17 Thread Allen S. Rout
On 12/17/2012 02:42 PM, Huebner, Andy wrote: > Just general questions on Isilon backup. > How do you backup your Isilon, NDMP or CIFS/NFS? > NDMP FC to tape or Ethernet through the TSM server? > Our current state (in implementation now) is: + Default, short-term backup needs

Re: Isilon Backup

2012-12-17 Thread Skylar Thompson
ess the backed up data. This for us was the most scary aspect out of NDMP. -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine On 12/17/12 11:42 AM, Huebner, Andy wrote

Isilon Backup

2012-12-17 Thread Huebner, Andy
Just general questions on Isilon backup. How do you backup your Isilon, NDMP or CIFS/NFS? NDMP FC to tape or Ethernet through the TSM server? We are to the point in our project to figure out the backup bit. Andy Huebner

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Zarnowski
Allen, Thanks for your response. I did not include your option 0, because I was thinking "large file servers". Your point about option 0 being potentially more viable if metadata is kept on SSD is interesting. Does anyone have any first-hand experience with this that they can share? Option 4

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-14 Thread Allen S. Rout
On 02/13/2012 11:46 AM, Paul Zarnowski wrote: [...] I see the following major categorizations of how to protect (large) file servers effectively. Please feel free to comment on this, as I'm looking to refine my view. I should say that our "protection goal" would be to have a copy of data a

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Zarnowski
At 01:48 PM 2/12/2012, Prather, Wanda wrote: >NAS devices are closed operating systems, so you can't install a TSM client on >them. Depends on what you define as a "NAS device". I believe (not positive) that SoNAS has an integrated TSM client in it. Some windows-based fileservers can use an o

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-12 Thread Grant Street
On 13/02/12 05:48, Prather, Wanda wrote: I don't have any personal experience with Isilon, so these answers are based on other experience with NDMP and filer devices: Can any of you provide real world backup times for full tree traversal backups to TSM using NDMP? I understand my mileage may

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-12 Thread Prather, Wanda
I don't have any personal experience with Isilon, so these answers are based on other experience with NDMP and filer devices: >>Can any of you provide real world backup times for full tree traversal >>backups to TSM using NDMP? I understand my mileage may vary depending on the >>data and it's

Isilon backup

2012-02-10 Thread EVILUTION
Thank you all for the information thus far. Can any of you provide real world backup times for full tree traversal backups to TSM using NDMP? I understand my mileage may vary depending on the data and it's size as well as the hardware configuration but there must be a fairly standard throughpu

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-09 Thread Grant Street
Isilon is great usable storage that you can scale in any direction. It lives under the one Namespace and super easy to admin. For backup/restore... Isilon only provide NDMP or direct backup ala Cifs/NFS # NDMP in TSM is only full and differential. there is no incremental option. You need to purch

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-09 Thread Robert A. Clark
novel with the NDMP stream. [RC] wprat...@icfi.com Sent by: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/09/2012 01:15 PM Please respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Isilon backup If you are going to use a filer, EMC doesn't support backups of its NAS devi

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-09 Thread Shawn Drew
] Isilon backup If you are going to use a filer, EMC doesn't support backups of its NAS devices (that I have run into) except via NDMP dump. Netapp on the other hand (or IBM-branded N-series, which is still a Netapp) supports the -snapdiff api. I just helped a customer convert about 40 hours

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-09 Thread Prather, Wanda
ginal Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of EVILUTION Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 12:27 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Isilon backup This may be a bit off topic but consider this a thread bump We have about 25TB worth of unstructur

Isilon backup

2012-02-09 Thread EVILUTION
This may be a bit off topic but consider this a thread bump We have about 25TB worth of unstructured data spread across seven windows servers using DFS. We are using TSM with a monthly image backup as well as daily journal based backups to collect the data but I'm concerned about restore t

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-06 Thread Allen S. Rout
On 02/02/2012 04:12 PM, Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT wrote: Anyone backup an Isilon array? Using 3592 tape drives? The sales guys say it is just NDMP. I am looking for just basic information (good, bad, Oh Smurf!). One may be in our future. We're contemplating such a device, too. In our pl

SV: Isilon backup

2012-02-03 Thread Christian Svensson
http://www.cristie.se/cpu2tsm-supported-platforms Join us at Pulse 2012: http://www.ibm.com/pulse Från: Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT [andy.hueb...@alconlabs.com] Skickat: den 2 februari 2012 22:12 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Ämne: Isilon backup Anyone backup an I

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Zarnowski
We are looking at Isilon too, along with NetApp, BlueArc, and SoNAS. Backups are a real challenge as these get large in scale. Some observations: 1. NDMP requires periodic full backups. This generates a lot of backup traffic. If you're going over a long-haul network, this can be an issue. N

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-02 Thread Skylar Thompson
Sent by: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/02/2012 04:18 PM Please respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Isilon backup for what it's worth, NDMP works with TSM, but that's it. NDMP is not the most advanced backup solution and the TSM implementation is not the mos

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-02 Thread Grant Street
_ Shawn Drew Internet r.p...@plcs.nl Sent by: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/02/2012 04:18 PM Please respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Isilon backup for what it's worth, NDMP works with TSM, but that's it. NDMP is not the most advanced backup so

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-02 Thread Skylar Thompson
We have a bunch of Isilon storage, and back it up using over NFS using TSM proxy nodes. Our data is easy to segregate into virtual mountpoints, though, which helps us get pretty good parallelism. I took one look at NDMP and have stayed well away from it because it simply doesn't scale. I have a f

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-02 Thread Shawn Drew
ew Internet r.p...@plcs.nl Sent by: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/02/2012 04:18 PM Please respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Isilon backup for what it's worth, NDMP works with TSM, but that's it. NDMP is not the most advanced backup solution and the TSM

Re: Isilon backup

2012-02-02 Thread Remco Post
for what it's worth, NDMP works with TSM, but that's it. NDMP is not the most advanced backup solution and the TSM implementation is not the most feature rich. I'd look into other solutions first before reverting to NDMP. On 2 feb. 2012, at 22:12, Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT wrote: > Anyone bac

Isilon backup

2012-02-02 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
Anyone backup an Isilon array? Using 3592 tape drives? The sales guys say it is just NDMP. I am looking for just basic information (good, bad, Oh Smurf!). One may be in our future. Andy Huebner This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you ar