Very slow backup stg of DIRMC

2016-02-08 Thread Hans Christian Riksheim
We have a DIRMC management class for directory information. The destination is of type DISK. Backup stg can take up to 10 hours to transfer 500 MB to tape. We have tried different storage for the diskpool but the bottleneck seems to be elsewhere. It seems to hang for long periods of time doing

Re: Moving from TSMV5 to V6 / question on DIRMC

2013-10-30 Thread Rainer Wolf
n' measured this. At least I could not not see So it works much better with the file-volumes in the end , but the dirmc itself needs to point to the diskdirs-pool to handle a lot of sessions for lots of simultanous incoming data. The reason using the DATAFormat=nonblock format was because

Re: Moving from TSMV5 to V6 / question on DIRMC

2013-10-30 Thread Marouf, Nick
Hi Rainer, We had to use DIRMC, even though I've heard the same that it is no longer needed. Some of the servers I backup are so large that without DIRMC, the restores would take a substantial time to complete, I've also had an issue were the GUI had stopped working, and enab

Moving from TSMV5 to V6 / question on DIRMC

2013-10-30 Thread Rainer Wolf
Hello All, we are currently using tsm V5 Server and soon will be moving to TSM V6, starting again from scratch with a brandnew ts3500 library and the new 3592-c drives. The new TSM-Server Setups are to be reviewed and now I have some quuestions on the DIRMC feature which we distribute so far

Re: Strange dirmc

2012-11-28 Thread Andrew Raibeck
@IBMUS Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/Tivoli_Storage_Manager "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2012-11-28 01:05:42: > From: Robert Ouzen > To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.

Re: Strange dirmc

2012-11-27 Thread Robert Ouzen
November 27, 2012 6:36 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Strange dirmc Robert, Have you checked the dsmerror.log in case there is some message there that hints why the wrong management class is used for directories? Can you reproduce this with the command line client? Create a

Re: Strange dirmc

2012-11-27 Thread Andrew Raibeck
/Overview/Software/Tivoli/Tivoli_Storage_Manager "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2012-11-27 10:28:08: > From: Robert Ouzen > To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu, > Date: 2012-11-27 10:54 > Subject: Re: Strange dirmc > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" > >

Re: Strange dirmc

2012-11-27 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Robert, Do you have more than one SERVERNAME stanza in dsm.sys? Are you sure that the DIRMC option is in the correct stanza? Is it possible that DIRMC is being overridden by a client option set? Try this test, to see what DIRMC value is in effect. From the command line, issue this command

Re: Strange dirmc

2012-11-27 Thread Robert Ouzen
Hi Andy Thank you for your fast reply ... As you see the dirmc is point to the correct management mglaw q option dirmc DIRMC: MGLAW I have only one stanza in this client SErvernamelawsrv COMMmethod TCPip TCPPort1500 TCPServeraddress

Strange dirmc

2012-11-27 Thread Robert Ouzen
Hi to all I have a nodename who backup the directory to another management class in my case mgeducation I have on my inclexcl file this statement: include /export/home/*mglaw I tried in the dsm.sys to put dirmc mglaw but still the directory is written to mgeducation (the data is written

Re: DIRMC

2009-10-19 Thread Bill DOURADO
jmc Thankyou Bill -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Costa, Justino Sent: 19 October 2009 10:58 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] DIRMC Query OCCupancy STGpool=DIRTAPEPOOL Or select distinct NODE_NAME from

Re: DIRMC

2009-10-19 Thread Costa, Justino
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] DIRMC Hi, How can I find out which nodes are using DIRMC easily, I have a DIRMC primary tape pool DIRTAPEPOOL ? Thanks Bill -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: 15 Oc

Re: DIRMC

2009-10-19 Thread Bill DOURADO
Hi, How can I find out which nodes are using DIRMC easily, I have a DIRMC primary tape pool DIRTAPEPOOL ? Thanks Bill -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: 15 October 2009 11:22 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

Re: DIRMC

2009-10-15 Thread Andrew Raibeck
are managed via reclamation. Storing the directories on disk will likely benefit most those who do not collocate at all. If you back up solely to disk, then DIRMC is probably not of significant value. As with anything else, your mileage may vary. Pop quiz: "TSM is designed to always restore directo

Re: DIRMC

2009-10-15 Thread Bill DOURADO
Grigori, No I don't have any information about IBM plans for DIRMC? Bill -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Grigori Solonovitch Sent: 15 October 2009 10:20 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] DIRMC Yes, I am stil

Re: DIRMC

2009-10-15 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Yes, I am still use DIRMC to prevent holding directories in management class with the biggest expiry period in domain. Do you have any information about IBM plans for DIRMC? Grigori G. Solonovitch Senior Technical Architect Information Technology Bank of Kuwait and Middle East http

DIRMC

2009-10-15 Thread Bill DOURADO
Hi All, Is DIRMC still useful ? Or should I ditch it. Windows clients only. Storage Management Server for Windows - Version 5, Release 4, Level 2.0 Many Thanks Bill Dourado

SV: Dirmc and cloptset questions

2009-07-08 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi, Remember to have the same Ver Exist. Ver Deleted, Retention Exist and Retention Only as the highest MGMT Class you have. I have see some installations where DIRMC only have VerE = 2 VerD=1 RetO=30 RetE=60. When you do a point-in-time restore via GUI then has the directory been expired

Re: Dirmc and cloptset questions

2009-07-08 Thread Nicholas Rodolfich
Should work! This is what TSM refers to as rebinding. Be sure to mark the override client settings in the cloptset option. Regards, Nicholas "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 07/08/2009 01:46:01 PM: > [image removed] > > [ADSM-L] Dirmc and cloptset questions >

Dirmc and cloptset questions

2009-07-08 Thread Lee, Gary D.
g the dirmc option to any cloptsets and then define as apppropriate for all clients. I have such a set defined for solaris clients to exclude /etc/mnttab, and one for win2k clients with specific excludes. Anything wrong with this idea; and how best to implement. Suggestions and criticisms welcome.

Re: SV: DIRMC

2009-01-22 Thread Mikael Lindstrom
Hello, Some information I've got from TSM support that can be good to know about DIRMC don't need to be configured to back up directories to a (separate) disk storage pool DIRMC specifies the management class (MC) for directories to bind to. If not specified, by default, the MC cl

SV: DIRMC

2009-01-22 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi, DIRMC option could help you a lot depend on how you configure it. Make sure you configure DIRMC to save it's data on Disk only. Best Regards Christian Svensson Cell: +46-70-325 1577 E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se Skype: cristie.christian.sve

DIRMC

2009-01-21 Thread ashish sharma
Hello, How could DIRMC option on server side improve the restore time.Any idea? -- Best Regards Ashish Sharma ST Microelectronics Ltd. 919717003853

Re: Expired directories with DIRMC and restore

2007-01-26 Thread Andrew Raibeck
only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 01/26/2007 09:32:03 AM: > I ran a test backing up a directory structure with files and > subdirectories to a reto=

Re: Expired directories with DIRMC and restore

2007-01-26 Thread Richard Sims
Denis - The experimental results which you report certainly disagree with the published descriptions of how the GUI should behave in the absence of path directories. Technote 1157531 in particular is at odds with what you found. I recommend at least filling in the Comments box at the bottom of

Expired directories with DIRMC and restore

2007-01-26 Thread L'Huillier, Denis (GTI)
I ran a test backing up a directory structure with files and subdirectories to a reto=20 management class for the files and directories via DIRMC to a reto=0 management class. After the backup I deleted the data and re-ran the incremental backup to expire the objects from TSM. I confirmed the

Re: To DirMC, or not to DirMC

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Zarnowski
l directory objects to speed restore. Orville, This was discussed at the Oxford TSM Symposium last Fall, as Remco pointed out. Here is one issue that you need to be aware of when not using DIRMC. This is a trap that is easy to fall into. On Windows and Netware, the metadata for directory informat

Re: To DirMC, or not to DirMC

2006-07-23 Thread Richard Sims
On Jul 22, 2006, at 11:50 AM, Orville Lantto wrote: Thank you Richard, but my primary concern is that contradictory advice was published by IBM within a month. It is hard enough for us veterans, who started long ago with ADSM, to design efficient solutions for our customers. Having conflicting

Re: To DirMC, or not to DirMC

2006-07-22 Thread Orville Lantto
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] To DirMC, or not to DirMC Orville - Indeed, individual Technotes usually portray a small part of the big painting, and by the nature of their modest intention do not give a sense of the whole. Few customers use DIRMc, and depend upon the default

Re: To DirMC, or not to DirMC

2006-07-22 Thread Richard Sims
Orville - Indeed, individual Technotes usually portray a small part of the big painting, and by the nature of their modest intention do not give a sense of the whole. Few customers use DIRMc, and depend upon the default behavior of storing directories with the longest management class Retonly

Re: To DirMC, or not to DirMC

2006-07-22 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 01:10:19AM +0200, Remco Post wrote: > This was discussed at Oxford last year. I don't recall the outcome. I do > recall that because TSM allocates 256k chunks minimum for a transaction, > you do not really want to use this feature since TSM v5.3. Isn't this only for sequen

Re: To DirMC, or not to DirMC

2006-07-21 Thread Remco Post
Windows and Novell directory objects to speed > restore. > > TechNote 1240913 "DIRMC has little effect on restore performance" > makes the case that DIRMC is obsolete and unnecessary. > > These two TechNotes are both dated within the last month. > > Anybody fr

To DirMC, or not to DirMC

2006-07-21 Thread Orville Lantto
ed restore. TechNote 1240913 "DIRMC has little effect on restore performance" makes the case that DIRMC is obsolete and unnecessary. These two TechNotes are both dated within the last month. Anybody from IBM want to clear this up? Orville L. Lantto Glasshouse Technologies, Inc.

AW: To all TSM users: questions about DIRMC usage

2005-11-24 Thread Salak Juraj
nice activity from you, Andy! > > 1) I use DIRMC in my environment ... > >a) to ensure that GUI restores will accurately show files > available for restore (NO) > >b) to ensure that directory backups do not go directly to > tape (NO ) > >

To all TSM users: questions about DIRMC usage

2005-11-22 Thread Andrew Raibeck
TSM handling of directory backups, either by default behavior or with the use of the DIRMC option, has often been a source of confusion for customers. We in TSM development would like to better understand how and why our customers use DIRMC. To that end, we are interested in your answers to the

Re: DIRMC question

2005-11-08 Thread Dmitri Pasyutin
n policy for directories and have a > DIRMC entry in the dsm.opt file to bind the dirs to this > management class. > There is one top-level directory and it's contents which is > bound to a separate management class that will retain data for > 7 years (I use an 'INCLUDE' in the

DIRMC question

2005-11-08 Thread Copperfield Adams
Hi All, I have a node which has all data bar 1 top-level directory and its contents bound to the default management class (2 year retention). I have a separate management class set up with a slightly longer retention policy for directories and have a DIRMC entry in the dsm.opt file to bind the

Re: dirmc and rebinding

2005-03-24 Thread Andrew Raibeck
ot be rebound > to the new MC. > > Ben > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Becky Davidson > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:35 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: dirmc and rebinding > > We

Re: dirmc and rebinding

2005-03-24 Thread Ben Bullock
24, 2005 10:35 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: dirmc and rebinding We are about to implement the dirmc option. The first time that it runs will it rebind all directories to the new mc both active and inactive? I have done some reading and nothing I have found says that it won't but I want

dirmc and rebinding

2005-03-24 Thread Becky Davidson
We are about to implement the dirmc option. The first time that it runs will it rebind all directories to the new mc both active and inactive? I have done some reading and nothing I have found says that it won't but I wanted to check. Thanks Becky Davidson Sr Network Sys Admin Graybar

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-20 Thread TSM_User
Yes it still works that way when you don't specify a DIRMC. Kyle fred johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone know if TSM still puts directories in the mgmtc with the longest retention period? On one of my machines, that belongs to a special group of machines with all sorts

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-20 Thread fred johanson
Does anyone know if TSM still puts directories in the mgmtc with the longest retention period? On one of my machines, that belongs to a special group of machines with all sorts of special handling. I've used DIRMC to ensure the directory of some desktop doesn't get treated in the same

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread Rushforth, Tim
Restore Order processing did definitely fix one problem. DIRMC still solves other problems if you are storing data on tape. We used to tell our users that backups were stored on disk from the previous night's backups so if they did restores during the day then there would be no tape mounts

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread TSM_User
separate pool so that you can keep that data on disk might help. This is one reason why we have not yet stopped using the DIRMC. With that being said more and more of my customers are implementing file device classes or VTL's which keep most of the primary data on disk. As a result I no longe

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread Kenneth & Susan Bury
Paul, It is definitely, absolutely, positively, seen it myself - fixed Been fixed for years. Forget DIRMC. Ken > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Paul Fielding > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 16:06

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Fielding
double-tape-mount theory, and though I understand it is supposedly fixed, I haven't heard anyone say "I have seen it, I know it works, you no longer need to keep a dirmc diskpool". Of course, if it is indeed working as designed now, it doesn't resolve the other dirmc issues currentl

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread Richard Sims
e restored. Net result - tapes might get mounted twice. Is my understanding incorrect? (could well be). If this behavior has indeed been fixed so that directories are restored as they are hit on the tape (with a pre-created non-ACLed directory being created first) then it would indeed make sense th

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Fielding
tapes might get mounted twice. Is my understanding incorrect? (could well be). If this behavior has indeed been fixed so that directories are restored as they are hit on the tape (with a pre-created non-ACLed directory being created first) then it would indeed make sense that a DIRMC pool is no l

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread TSM_User
If V5.3 in fact only writes in larger blocks in the smaller directories may take up more space that required. Still, that issue aside you should no longer need to have a DIRMC pool. At one time there was a feature (or call it a bug) where every directory had to be restored as it came up which

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Steve Bennett
Storage pools consist of one or more volumes, generally disk or tape. The storage pool gets its volumes via the device class which has a maxscr setting to limit the volume count and max capacity to estimate or assign the max size of the volume. The device class also points to a directory which in t

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Mike
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Steve Bennett might have said: > Wanda, > > I just added a sata disk array in TSM v5.2 so I'll jump in here. > > If you are using one disk partition in Windows for the device class then > you can let TSM define the number of vols it needs up to maxscr or out > of disk conditio

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 07:38:16AM -0500, Richard Sims wrote: > blocks of 256 KiB minimum...". Could you provide a documentation or web > site reference for that 5.3 change? No, sorry. Just the info I received through the PMR. I made the suggestion to include this in e.g. a README, and that sugge

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Rushforth, Tim
n but this is not the case (at least on windows, on 5.2.2.4 - discussed on the list). Tim -Original Message- From: Steve Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:09 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues r

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Prather, Wanda
Tim/Steve Thanks - got it! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rushforth, Tim Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:17 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. 1. You

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Rushforth, Tim
ED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. Tim: We are looking at using all disk now for our onsite disk pool with our next capital$ buy. Something I've never been sure of - Whenf you u

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Steve Bennett
it somehow? Thanks Wanda -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rushforth, Tim Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:31 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. It is fixed

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Prather, Wanda
2) Do reclaims happen by themselves, or do you have to force it somehow? Thanks Wanda -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rushforth, Tim Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:31 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclam

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-17 Thread Richard Sims
for some time. I'd like to see definitive information on this before committing my 5.3 beliefs. thanks, Richard Sims On Mar 17, 2005, at 2:29 AM, Jurjen Oskam wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:29:50PM -0600, Rushforth, Tim wrote: [DIRMC] What in 5.3 warrants new consideration? Probably t

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:29:50PM -0600, Rushforth, Tim wrote: [DIRMC] > What in 5.3 warrants new consideration? Probably the fact that sequential volumes are written to in blocks of at least 256 KB, even when the data is only 1500 bytes. This can cause a lot of overhead, and

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread Paul Fielding
- Original Message - in a much faster backup. Now all that being said this new feature in V5.3 warrents new consideration. My new consideration is to stop using DIRMC pools as the reason they were created in the first place has also long been fixed. Which reason is this that has been

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread Rushforth, Tim
What in 5.3 warrants new consideration? The reason we implemented DIRMC is so that when a user restores a file(s) there are not extra tape mounts to restore the directories We ran into this on multiple occasions, even when all files were on disk, tape mounts would occur because the

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread TSM_User
It is fixed but the reason there have been suggestions to use a file type device class is because disk pools unline sequential pools are scanned from begining to end for every storage pool backup. I have had some customers that have millions of directories in their DIRMC pool. Even when none

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread Thorneycroft, Doug
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:31 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. It is fixed (somewhere around 5.1.5.2). -Original Message- From: Thorneycroft, Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005

Re: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread Rushforth, Tim
It is fixed (somewhere around 5.1.5.2). -Original Message- From: Thorneycroft, Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:25 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not. OK, after spending a large portion

DIRMC - Are copypool reclamation performance issues resolved or not.

2005-03-16 Thread Thorneycroft, Doug
OK, after spending a large portion of my day reviewing adsm-l post going back to 2000, I'm still not sure. Does anyone know if there is still a performance problem running reclamation on a DIRMC random access disk pool? I came across one post that said it was supposedly fixed, but recomm

Re: dirmc question

2005-01-21 Thread Richard Sims
On Jan 21, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Lepre, James wrote: Jim, I don't know what goes on with my posts, but for some reason, wherever I wrote an equal (=) sign, something somewhere tacked "3D" (the ASCII hex code for '=') after it. ... Though mail is two-dimensional, you may sometimes see the "3D". :-) Tha

Re: dirmc question

2005-01-21 Thread Lepre, James
-Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: dirmc question Jim, I don't know what goes on with my posts, but for some reason, wherever I wrote an

Re: dirmc question

2005-01-20 Thread Andrew Raibeck
gt; Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. > > > The command line is your friend. > > > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. > > > > > > "ADSM: Dist Stor

Re: dirmc question

2005-01-20 Thread Andrew Raibeck
ernet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. > > The command line is your friend. > > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. > > > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 01/20/2005 > >

Re: dirmc question

2005-01-20 Thread Jim Kirkman
er clicks on a folder to get to a file in it is the folder updated such that a new version is backed up? I'm looking for a reason a GUI PIT restore wouldn't display a folder and it's contents that were obviously there. I'm using DIRMC and have extra versions and ver del set to one

Re: dirmc question

2005-01-20 Thread Andrew Raibeck
er updated such > that a new version is backed up? > > I'm looking for a reason a GUI PIT restore wouldn't display a folder and > it's contents that were obviously there. I'm using DIRMC and have extra > versions and ver del set to one plus the values in the files

dirmc question

2005-01-20 Thread Jim Kirkman
here. I'm using DIRMC and have extra versions and ver del set to one plus the values in the files MC, but if a folder gets backed up everytime it's touched then there probably aren't enough versions data exists. thanks, Jim

Re: DIRMC stgpool: DISK or FILE?

2005-01-17 Thread Jurjen Oskam
ols. I asked this here, because IBM support asked why we were using FILE volumes instead of DISK volumes for our DIRMC stgpool. He recommends DISK volumes, but only mentioned performance as a reason for this recommendation. I answered that we were using FILE volumes for better handling of a database

Re: DIRMC stgpool: DISK or FILE?

2005-01-17 Thread Rushforth, Tim
se restoral situation. Yes. This is also documented in the 5.2/5.3 ADMIN guide describing difference between DISK and FILE pools. >Would it be a good idea to return to a large DIRPOOL of type >DISK and eliminate DIRFILE, on TSM 5.3 and AIX 5.2? See above! >>Storage pools that act a

Re: DIRMC stgpool: DISK or FILE?

2005-01-17 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 02:02:08PM -0600, Stapleton, Mark wrote: > Storage pools that act as DIRMC management class destinations [...] > contain redundant data; the normal client data destination pool also > contains a copy of all directory and file structure data. I wasn't awa

Re: DIRMC stgpool: DISK or FILE?

2005-01-16 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jurjen Oskam >I have a question about which devclass to use for a >storagepool that is exclusively used as DIRMC destination. > >The server originally was set up with a large enough DIRPOOL >of type DISK. Lat

DIRMC stgpool: DISK or FILE?

2005-01-14 Thread Jurjen Oskam
Hi there, I have a question about which devclass to use for a storagepool that is exclusively used as DIRMC destination. The server originally was set up with a large enough DIRPOOL of type DISK. Later, DIRPOOL was reduced in size, and a DIRFILE stgpool was added that consists of FILE volumes

Re: Dirmc question

2004-11-01 Thread Stapleton, Mark
Yes, but if you'll read my first reply, you want to leave the dirmc pool in place. It enables *much* faster restores when you have to bring back a lot of files (like an entire drive). -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Berbee Information Networks Office 262.521.5627 >-Original

Re: Dirmc question

2004-11-01 Thread Robert Ouzen
Hi Mark Correct me if I am wrong you said that the information is also stored in my standard disk stotage pool (after migration on tape too). So after a move nodedata on my new storage pool on disk I will not need anymore the dirmc parameter and the old dirmc storage disk , all the information

Re: Dirmc question

2004-11-01 Thread Stapleton, Mark
I know backup my dirmc on disk , I >think to do a move nodedata from my cartridge storage to my >new storage disk but what about my storage disk of dirmc I >think I will not need anymore . > >Did I need to do : > 1. A next storage from my actual dirmc storage disk to the &

Dirmc question

2004-11-01 Thread Robert Ouzen
Hello I am running Netware backups at night on disk and during the day I migrate it to cartridge I am planning now to backups those Novell 's client just on a storage disk. For better performance I know backup my dirmc on disk , I think to do a move nodedata from my cartridge storage

Re: DIRMC options on different partitions

2003-09-01 Thread Zlatko Krastev
Yes, setup two nodes for the box and set different DIRMC settings in separate dsm.opt files. If you do not want to deal with two nodes, the answer would be "no". Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Marc Lowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EM

Re: DIRMC

2003-06-01 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
Maybe, but in list archives definitely. Look at Tab Trepagnier's answer from 16.12.2002 on the thread "Setting up DIRMC seq pool on disk" (you can learn from other Tab's experiments alot). Now in recent versions IBM claims that have fixed copypool reclamation reading from p

Re: Setting up DIRMC seq pool on disk

2002-12-15 Thread Tab Trepagnier
ents. All DIRMC management classes are set for unlimited versions. Since I implemented that configuration in April, my system has sent approximately 1.1 million directories to that pool totalling about 1.25 GB. I've set my directory pool to migrate to tape at 99% full and continue until empt

Setting up DIRMC seq pool on disk

2002-12-14 Thread Richard Foster
Hi I'm looking at setting up the famous DIRMC trick, with a primary sequential pool on disk. I have a couple of questions: 1) Is it a requirement to have the recommended setup DIRPOOL primary DISK: NEXTPOOL->DIRFILE DIRFILE primary SEQUENTIAL on DISK or can we have our DIRMC point

Re: Question about dirmc

2002-11-11 Thread DFrance
Ooops, I mis-spoke... It's the output from "Q OCC " (from dsmadmc prompt) that would confirm whether you are storing data into the DIRMC storage pool. Don France Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant Tivoli Storage Manager, WinNT/2K, AIX/Unix, OS/390 San Jose, Ca

Re: Question about dirmc

2002-11-10 Thread DFrance
sent to DIRMC storage pool)??? I don't recall for sure, but I thought the ACL's for Netware were not that large, so might (mostly) not exceed the space reserved for that info in the TSM db. Regards, Don Don France Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant Tivoli Storage Mana

Re: Question about dirmc

2002-11-10 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
TED] cc: Subject:Question about dirmc Hi to all I implant a dirmc management class for the directories of my Netware clients on disk. My question is did the next incremental backup will rebound all the directories to new management class or I need to do a full backup ??? T.I.A Reg

Question about dirmc

2002-11-10 Thread Robert Ouzen
Hi to all I implant a dirmc management class for the directories of my Netware clients on disk. My question is did the next incremental backup will rebound all the directories to new management class or I need to do a full backup ??? T.I.A Regards Ouzen Robert E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: When did DIRMC come about?

2002-10-31 Thread Friemel, Norbert
> > > Does anyone know at what ADSM or TSM level DIRMC was added? > It's in ADSTAR(TM) Distributed Storage Manager Version 1 User's Guide and Reference for Microsoft® Windows(TM) Release 2 Third Edition (September 1994) Document Number SH35-0125-02 ---- sni

Re: When did DIRMC come about?

2002-10-31 Thread Wayne T. Smith
Bill Boyer wrote: > Does anyone know at what ADSM or TSM level DIRMC was added? I don't, but DIRMC was available in Tivoli ADSM 3.1 -- Wayne T. Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- University of Maine System -- UNET

When did DIRMC come about?

2002-10-31 Thread Bill Boyer
Does anyone know at what ADSM or TSM level DIRMC was added? We have a potential TSM outsource contract, but the client has LOTS of old TSM 3.7 and ADSM 3.1.xx versions..I'm talking 100's of 'em. Until we can get them all rolled over to a supported release, I would like to implemen

Re: Directories written in the wrong pool, although using dirmc option

2002-10-28 Thread DFrance
Hi Andy, Thanks, for the excellent responses (below and to Mark's message) ... and know the community continues to appreciate your participation (here and elsewhere)! I am relieved to learn DIRMC is still relevant, and will continue to advocate its use with customers supporting Win2K, Ne

Re: Directories written in the wrong pool, although using dirmc option

2002-10-28 Thread Andrew Raibeck
of which might ultimately not be pertinent to the issue. Arnaud has already communicated to me that (a) he can not recreate the problem reliably, and (b) as he mentioned in his last ADSM-L post on this subject, he created a new policy domain that does for him what he wants. So the root cause of his troub

Re: Directories written in the wrong pool, although using dirmc option

2002-10-28 Thread Andrew Raibeck
originally reported the problem) will post the information. As to DIRMC being obsolete... not to the best of my knowledge. I just did a small test this morning, backing up several files to disk, then looked at the contents of the volume, and I can clearly see that directory information is there as

Re: Directories written in the wrong pool, although using dirmc option

2002-10-26 Thread DFrance
I share Mark's sentiments... on TWO points: - if this was resolved, for both users in the discussion, let's share the results; - if DIRMC is no longer relevant, I'd sure like to know why! Win2K is becoming ever more prevalent, and most data center customers go wild with lots of pe

Re: Directories written in the wrong pool, although using dirmc option

2002-10-26 Thread Mark D. Rodriguez
y upto you to decide. Anyway on another note, the IBM/Tivoli education material has been stating for sometime now that the DIRMC attribute is effectively obsolete. The material states that all directory information is kept in the DB now. The only reason I used DIRMC in the past was to store my d

Re: Directories written in the wrong pool, although using dirmc option

2002-10-25 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Subject:Re: Directories written in the wrong pool, although using dirmc option Hi Andy, And thanks a lot for your response. I checked dsm.opt on one of the nodes generating problems, it looks like : LANG AMENG tcpport 1500 TCPSERVERADDRESS X ipxsocket0005 ipxserv

Re: Directories written in the wrong pool, although using dirmc option

2002-10-25 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Subject:Re: Directories written in the wrong pool, although using dirmc option Andy, I'm seeing something similar on my system. I have all my nodes pointing their directories to storage pool "folderdisk". Most nodes do indeed send their directories there, but a h

Re: Directories written in the wrong pool, although using dirmc option

2002-10-25 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
.\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\* SUbdir Yes passwordaccess generate TCPWINDOWSIZE 64 BACKUPRegistry YES ERRORLOGRETENTION 7 SCHEDLOGRETENTION 7 I tried "dsmc show opt" and found the dirmc was pointing to the right management class. I also made sure this node was properly associated with option

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