Re: Any way to avoid full backup of data relocated on TSM client file system??

2010-05-27 Thread Steve Harris
Rick, Ben Isn't that what the SKIPNTPERMISSIONS client option is for? Regards Steve. Steven Harris TSM Admin Paraparaumu, New Zealand. On Thu, 27 May 2010 11:52:15 -0600, Ben Bullock wrote: > I have had that problem also in the past and found no suitable way to get > around it. We considere

Re: Tdp sql questions

2010-05-27 Thread Steve Harris
Hi Gary what are you trying to accomplish with your frequent diffutils? How about this evening window - log backup (truncate=yes) followed by full backup every two hours - log backup (truncate=no) followed by VSS backup to local disk Configure it to keep 2 days of VSS snapshots, if you have the

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Skylar Thompson
I'm around there too. 20MB Seagate MFM drive in an Epson QX-16. This was actually a dual-processor system (8088 for DOS and Z80 for Epson's CPM clone TPM). I had fired it up just for the heck of it a few years ago and it came up without problems. They don't make 'em like they used to. On 05/27

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread David McClelland
I can beat than - I have a 20MB 'Winchester' HDD inside a working original Compaq Deskpro 8086 from c 1985. Fired her up last week for some photos, still works a treat. (No TSM client for it though...) /DMc Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: "Strand, Neil

Re: adding sequence lines to existing client option set

2010-05-27 Thread Evans, Bill
I think you need to 'define' the new sequence step: DEFine CLIENTOpt option_set_name option_name option_value  Force = No Force = No Yes SEQnumber = number so: define cliento exludeiis inclexcl "exclude.dir 'c:\notsm'" seq=8 (next higher number) should work ok update is just for changing a

Re: adding sequence lines to existing client option set

2010-05-27 Thread Prather, Wanda
Update client is for changing the sequence number of an option, in which case you need the old sequence number and the new sequence number. If you are adding a new line, use DEFINE CLINETOPT instead of UPDATE. The line will be added with the seq number you specify, so you can add at the end or the

Re: adding sequence lines to existing client option set

2010-05-27 Thread Tim Brown
still no go update cliento exludeiis inclexcl "exclude.dir 'c:\notsm'" seq=8 ANR2022E UPDATE CLIENTOPT: One or more parameters are missing. Tim -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu]on Behalf Of Fred Johanson Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:46 AM

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Strand, Neil B.
Gill, This sounds like an interesting environment. Could you share some of the particulars such as what storage device is providing the LUN, what server OS is using the LUN and what the general reason was for choosing the LUN? Historical note - My first hard disk in my home PC was 20GB Than

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
Ah yes, the 'storage architect'. I believe that's the genius who came to me. Geoff Gill TSM/PeopleSoft Administrator SAIC M/S-B1P 4224 Campus Pt. Ct. San Diego, CA 92121 (858)826-4062 (office) (858)412-9883 (blackberry) > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Schaub, Steve
Speaking as someone with arrows in his back over this type of thing, if the app can run under the 64-bit version of Windows (the app doesn't need to be 64-bit, it only needs to be able to run on a 64-bit OS), you can load up that machine with gigs of memory and your life will become more sane.

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Richard Sims
This kind of issue defines why a site should have a storage architect, to select the best overall implementation of such storage, including safeguarding against problems. Some storage requires only failsafe protection represented in RAID 1 or RAID 5. Some requires multi-generation file-level b

Re: Any way to avoid full backup of data relocated on TSM client file system??

2010-05-27 Thread Ben Bullock
I have had that problem also in the past and found no suitable way to get around it. We considered just not backing up the ACLs, but that was deemed unacceptable, so we just had to grin and bear it. As I understand it, the ACLs are actually part of the Windows files, so there is no way to separ

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Prather, Wanda
I've got a customer with multiple Windows servers having multiple LUNS with over 30M files, one is over 75M. (and of course, the developers claim there is no way to modify the architecture...) Journaling is the ONLY way we can back them up. (And yes, I've told them they can't restore the puppies i

Re: Any way to avoid full backup of data relocated on TSM client file system??

2010-05-27 Thread Conway, Timothy
I've never done it, and don't like it, but subfile backup? 73, Tim Conway JBS USA | 1770 Promontory Ci | Greeley, CO 80634| USA Direct: 970-506-7998 | Fax: 970.336.6195 email: timothy.con...@jbssa.com JBS Server Team -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.m

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Kelly Lipp
Hmmm. I don't know about that. I thought that's what journaling was for! Now, I suppose if you have a lot of files and a lot of them changing you could have a problem. But I'm guessing this beast won't have that many changes... Kelly Lipp Chief Technology Officer www.storserver.com 719-266-87

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Rick Adamson
I have an offline storage system that is similar to HSM with millions of files totaling about 5 tb. The guy before me using legacy file level backups gave up as the processing of the data took roughly 5 days to complete and changes to the data during backup further complicated the issue. Not to men

Tdp sql questions

2010-05-27 Thread Lee, Gary D.
Tdp for sqlserver 5.5.3. tsm server 5.5.4. Trying to set up a backup regime for our physical plant. They have an app which uses sqlserver dbs. I am somewhat confused by the difference between a difffull and a log backup. What I want is a complete full each night, and diffs every two hours in b

Re: adding sequence lines to existing client option set

2010-05-27 Thread Fred Johanson
You need SEQ=8. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Baker, Jane Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:43 AM To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] adding sequence lines to existing client option set Oops sorry about that, you us

Re: adding sequence lines to existing client option set

2010-05-27 Thread Baker, Jane
Oops sorry about that, you use the define clientopt command. >>-DEFine CLIENTOpt--option_set_name--option_name--option_value--> .-Force--=--No--. >--+---+--+--+->< '-Force--=--+-No--+-' '-SEQnumber--=--number-

Re: adding sequence lines to existing client option set

2010-05-27 Thread Tim Brown
update cliento exludeiis inclexcl "exclude.dir 'c:\notsm'" 8 does not work ANR2195E UPDATE CLIENTOPT: Invalid option sequence number - exclude.dir 'c:\notsm'. Existing client opt has 7 sequence numbers Tim -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu]o

Re: adding sequence lines to existing client option set

2010-05-27 Thread Baker, Jane
>>-UPDate CLIENTOpt--option_set_name--option_name---> >--current_sequence_number--new_sequence_number>< So upd cliento optionset1 Exclude . 2 That should work I think. Cheers, Jane. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.

adding sequence lines to existing client option set

2010-05-27 Thread Tim Brown
Have existing client option set defined define cloptset excludeiis define clientopt excludeiis inclexcl "exclude.dir 'c:\windows\system32\logfiles'" I cant recall how to add a subsequent entry (sequnce 2) Tim Brown Systems Specialist - Project Leader Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Schaub, Steve
I had to fight a similar battle recently. It's amazing how an app cannot be configured differently until multiple managers get an email from the recovery engineer stating that due to not heeding our advice, that particular system's recovery can no longer be guaranteed... -steve schaub -Ori

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
What OS? Is the LUN owner going to do the backup? Is it a shared file system? Consider a storage pool just for this file system. Use phrases like: "It will be a miracle" "Is a 7 day RTO required?" "Who gets fired when it goes away?" Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor M

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Been there..wrote the book.saw the movie...have the T-shirt..and the war-wounds. If you recall, I had to restore a Windoz filesystem, over the Christmas holidays, with over 50M objects - only 4TB occupancy. Server kept running out of storage to

Re: why create a 12TB LUN

2010-05-27 Thread Dwight Cook
Honestly Geoff, I think I'd have to tell them to stop smoke'n crack... In reality, people do what is easiest for them and/or their application. I'm sure it will be easier on them to make one big ~container~ for all their ~stuff~ rather than spread it out over lots of smaller areas. They might say