Re: Inittab and Restarting TSM instance

2008-01-23 Thread Steven Harris
Hi David My favourite way to restart on AIX (ksh) is chitab $(lsitab autosrvr | sed -e "s/once/respawn/") and then after it has started chitab $(lsitab autosrvr | sed -e "s/respawn/once/") but one site I worked the guy who had set up TSM was a serious AIX nerd - CATE and all that - and had

Data Deduplication

2008-01-23 Thread lamont
Hi Curtis, Unfortunately, this was already the case when I came, client encryption is the only option and the tapes are needed to be sent to offsite. I think we need to consider this - enabling/disabling client encryption and see how - in the test case on the upcoming POC with a de-dupe vendor.

Re: Re: Upgrading TSM on an AIX server running multiple TSM instances

2008-01-23 Thread David Bronder
James R Owen wrote: > > I'm also looking for advice: how best to make an inoperative AUTOSRVR > entry in /etc/inittab? We leave the tiny default TSM service in the > installation directory for upgrade processing, and never want it to > start up automatically, but the upgrade process recreates the

Re: New to List and Question

2008-01-23 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:36:55 -0600, Howard Coles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I have an interesting query: > We're going to be upgrading to TSM 5.5 (hopefully unless serious > problems are revealed) in the near future, and then adding a secondary > server to offload some of the backups, restores

Seeking thoughts/experiences on backing up large amounts (say 50 Petabytes) of data

2008-01-23 Thread Bob Talda
Folks: Our group has been approached by a customer who asked if we could backup/archive 50 petabytes of data. And yes, they are serious. We've begun building questions for the customer, but as this is roughly 1000 times the current amount of data we backup, we are on unfamiliar turf here.

Re: Upgrading TSM on an AIX server running multiple TSM instances

2008-01-23 Thread Howard Coles
-Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James R Owen Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:18 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Upgrading TSM on an AIX server running multiple TSM instances Orville, Can you clarify exactly wha

New to List and Question

2008-01-23 Thread Howard Coles
I've been on ADSM.ORG for some time, just not on the list. I have an interesting query: We're going to be upgrading to TSM 5.5 (hopefully unless serious problems are revealed) in the near future, and then adding a secondary server to offload some of the backups, restores, and admin processes etc.

Re: Upgrading TSM on an AIX server running multiple TSM instances

2008-01-23 Thread James R Owen
Orville, Can you clarify exactly what is the problem with multiple TSM service instances running from a shared dsmserv binary? AFAIK, IBM/Tivoli does not suggest to copy and run a separate executable for each TSM instance. We have not seen any problems sharing the same executable among sever

Re: Data Deduplication

2008-01-23 Thread Curtis Preston
The other posters are correct. You will get 1:1. Dedupe works by finding patterns. There are no patterns in encrypted data. One question would be why would you do that? Most people are encrypting data as it leaves their site. The best way to do that is hardware encryption (tape drive or SAN-

Re: Data Deduplication

2008-01-23 Thread Matthew Warren
Hmm, I was going to say I'd expect almost none, because the eencryption wouldn't generate the same data each time through. But maybe It depends on encyption scheme, on how keys are managed (I would expect the same data to encrypt the same way if the same keys are used - although I am no cryptologi

Re: Data Deduplication

2008-01-23 Thread Hart, Charles A
True as well as any files that are already "Compressed" We have SQL DB's doing Flat File Dumps to Disk with compression and we see 1.7:1 Ick. Also TDP RMAN backups can use Files per set function which if set to more than 1 RMAN will "multiplex" each file set differently so you see different da

Re: Upgrading TSM on an AIX server running multiple TSM instances

2008-01-23 Thread Orville Lantto
The reason to have separate binaries for each instance is that the process in AIX is tied to the binary file and holds it open. Orville L. Lantto From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM Sent: Tue 1/22/2008 02:55 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.ED

Re: Data Deduplication

2008-01-23 Thread Wanda Prather
I agree about client encryption wrecking dedup ratios. FWIW however, if you turn on both COMPRESSION and ENCRYPTION on the client, the client is also smart enough to compress first, then encrypt, so you get the compression benefits. However, that of course takes a lot of cycles on the client, and

Re: Data Deduplication[-UNSECURE-]

2008-01-23 Thread Ben Bullock
You are right, if client compression is turned on, you will get next to no compression. In the DataDomain best practices for TSM documentation, they say to have client compression turned off for the DD appliance to do its thing. We don't have client compression turned on because w

Re: Data Deduplication

2008-01-23 Thread Wanda Prather
Oooh, what a great question! I'd guess if client encryption is on and working, the dedup ratio should be about 1:1; because the data should never encrypt the same way twice. On 1/23/08, lamont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > What would likely be the de-dupe ratio if tsm clients do archive >

Re: Data Deduplication

2008-01-23 Thread Roger Deschner
Encryption might have a DRAMATIC effect, completely eliminating the benefits of either deduplication or compression. I predict 1:1. i.e. NO savings for dedupliaction, with TSM client encryption. This is why encryption at the tape drive is a very popular option with LTO4. You can both encrypt and c

Re: Webclient signon error 53

2008-01-23 Thread Matthew Warren
thanks, I'll follow that up, post how it goes. Matt. Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To ADSM-L Sent

Re: Data Deduplication

2008-01-23 Thread Ben Bullock
As with all questions like this, the answer is "it depends". It depends on the make-up of your data (# of DB full dumps, % of DB dumps to filesystem data, % of change on the client, etc) It depends on the vendor of DeDupe you are using. FWIW, I am about to replace a 100TB of LTO tape with a Data

Re: Webclient signon error 53

2008-01-23 Thread Richard Sims
Hi, Matthew - I haven't run into that before, but my guess would be that the TSM client is having trouble identifying the peer, probably because the 10.x.x.x private net address is not DNS reverse-lookupable into a host/node name. TSM 5.2 changed IP address handling a bit, in concert with the DN

Webclient signon error 53

2008-01-23 Thread Matthew Warren
Hi *SM'ers, A customer has recently upgraded client versions on AIX machines running AIX 4.3 and 5.3. TSM server is v5.3.2 on z/OS 1.7 After upgrading the AIX 5.3 servers to the TSM 5.4.1 or 5.5 client, trying to logon to the client using the web interface gives; ANS2622S Invalid ID or Pass

Re: TDP for SQL question

2008-01-23 Thread Del Hoobler
Paul, If you need to restore from the new node name, you would launch the CLI or GUI specifying the alternate options file name. For example, in the example below: GUI: TDPSQL /TSMOPTFILE=DSMARCH.OPT CLI: TDPSQLC RESTORE dbname full /TSMOPTFILE=DSMARCH.OPT This will tell Data Protection for

Re: Another archive/expire query

2008-01-23 Thread Richard Sims
On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:28 AM, Angus Macdonald wrote: So I'm right to think the "dsmc delete backup" command will remove the TSM backup files and leave the archived copies alone? Yes.

Re: Another archive/expire query

2008-01-23 Thread Angus Macdonald
So I'm right to think the "dsmc delete backup" command will remove the TSM backup files and leave the archived copies alone? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Sims Sent: 22 January 2008 23:56 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re:

Data Deduplication

2008-01-23 Thread lamont
Hi, What would likely be the de-dupe ratio if tsm clients do archive processing daily (file level, no tdps) with encryption enabled? Thanks. +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PRO