Re: TDP for Oracle 8.1.7.4 & 9.2.0.6 on same server

2005-08-17 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 03:45:23PM -0500, Scott Grover wrote: > I have TDP 64 bit for Oracle AIX 5.2.0 running on an AIX 5.2 client > with > both Oracle 8.1.7 and 9.2.0. SHOWENV shows my configurations for both oracle I assume you have 64 bit Oracle 9, and 32 bit Oracle 8.1.7. (Oracle 8

Re: Disk Pool Volume Configuration

2005-08-17 Thread Richard Sims
On Aug 17, 2005, at 3:39 PM, Joni Moyer wrote: ... Would you happen to know if there is a max. size for a volume? ... See IBM Technote 1170255. Richard Sims

Re: JR- Backup sets

2005-08-17 Thread Pétur Eyþórsson
Trimark there is no best practice for creating a backup set for windows or NetWare. I guess you know how to make them, but how frequiently and on witch media is entirely based on case by case basis. it´s kinda like asking what your favorate color is, it varies form administrator to administrator

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Leigh Reed
Joni, If you read Ben Bullock's recent posting, I agree with everything he has said. I would definitely use raw disk volumes (in a Unix world). Leigh -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: 17 August 2005 20:31 To: ADSM-L@

Re: Disk Pool Volume Configuration

2005-08-17 Thread Pétur Eyþórsson
Ben is absulutly correct here in my oppinion, raw volumes are beter. Even though aix has the best I/O perfomance  is not as good as raw volumes. you need be a good AIX administrator to tune the filesystem to be as good as raw. I do alsow agree with Ben on to take earch LUN a volume and to put them

TDP for Oracle 8.1.7.4 & 9.2.0.6 on same server

2005-08-17 Thread Scott Grover
Hi all, I have TDP 64 bit for Oracle AIX 5.2.0 running on an AIX 5.2 client with both Oracle 8.1.7 and 9.2.0. SHOWENV shows my configurations for both oracle instances to be OK (separate DSM.opt and TDPO.opt files), but after relinking the 8.1.7 libobk.a , Oracle will not start as follows:

Re: Disk Pool Volume Configuration

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Bullock
This is a little off the topic of your question, but we don't have our TSM server on a SATA SAN, just on SSA drives, so I'm not sure what the best ways. I see you are making all those luns into 1 LV, putting a filesystem on that vol and then putting it in the storage pool.

Re: Disk Pool Volume Configuration

2005-08-17 Thread Lawrence Clark
100 x 50 = 5,000GB ~ 50. Our disk based storage pools are based on 16GB volumes. I would not think there would be a maximum size. The only consideration would be to make them of a size sufficient to give you more flexibility in allocating them to multiple storage pools. Our NT archive pool is sm

Re: preschedulecmd questions

2005-08-17 Thread Andrew Raibeck
-PRESCHEDULECMD and -POSTSCHEDULECMD can also be passed through the schedule definition on the server. And the command that executes on the client can be scripts that do whatever the scripts are capable of, depending on the OS and the scripting language used, which means that the scripts can contai

Re: Disk Pool Volume Configuration

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Lawrence, What size TSM storage pool volumes do you create? Would you happen to know if there is a max. size for a volume? My one disk pool will be several hundred GB, but I didn't want to have too many volumes within it, but maybe it would be better to create about 100-50GB storage pool volumes

Re: Disk Pool Volume Configuration

2005-08-17 Thread Lawrence Clark
yes, you can have more than one tsm volume per physical volume. the smaller the allocation, the more volumes, which gives to flexibility to assign them per the needs of the storage pool rather than simply give two to each. we just define them to a storage group per demand. but once define and al

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Hi Leigh, I have just added EMC fibre channel disk from a CX700 in the following pieces of physical disk under the filesystem /tsmdev/stgpool1 CHRS044 /tsmdev/stgpool1 lun 175 100 GB lun 178 100 GB lun 181 100 GB lun 184 100 GB lun 187 100 GB

Disk Pool Volume Configuration

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Hello, I have just added fibre channel disk to our one AIX server. Here are the LUN's that were added to filesystem /tsmdev/stgpool1 CHRS044 /tsmdev/stgpool1 lun 175 100 GB lun 178 100 GB lun 181 100 GB lun 184 100 GB lun 187 100 GB lun 190

Re: preschedulecmd questions

2005-08-17 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Richard Mochnaczewski Is there a way to run different commands before and after different schedules on the same client? Also, it is possible for the commands to be conditionally based on certain criteria ? 1. You would have to employ separate option

preschedulecmd questions

2005-08-17 Thread Richard Mochnaczewski
Hi, Is there a way to run different commands before and after different schedules on the same client? Also, it is possible for the commands to be conditionally based on certain criteria ? Rich

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
That makes sense. So if we have SATA disk RAID-3 disk, and the disk is being pulled onto the AIX server by using volume manager and placing the LUN's within a single volume group, then how would I need to configure the TSM volumes for maximum performance? Is it 1 LUN per 1 TSM volume? Is there a

Re: Resourceutilization & Backup Question

2005-08-17 Thread Debbie Bassler
Thanks for the input, Ben. All of our database data goes to tape. My main concern, with resourceutilization and collocation, is that we're not shooting ourselves in the foot by using both. I've decide to shut the database down before doing the back up, when we start the back up early. Hopefully,

Re: TSM Opteron

2005-08-17 Thread Stapleton, Mark
Not at present. Tivoli support has said that there should be one available in September, but of course there is no guarantee of that. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Office 262.521.5627 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of TSM User Sent: Wed 8/17/20

Re: TSM Opteron

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Bullock
Depends on the OS. If you are running Linux, you can install the 32-bit client. If it's running windows, you are out of luck for a couple of months. See the archives for other threads just today about this issue. Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Error starting TSM server after upgrade

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Bullock
We actually get a similar error on a few of our TSM servers with a "phantom storagepool". I don't how to get rid of the error, but since it has never seemed to cause any problems, or errors in the expire inventory, I have not pursued it. If you find an answer, I'd love to hear it. Ben __

TSM Opteron

2005-08-17 Thread TSM User
Does a TSM Client exist for they Opteron 64 bits???

Error starting TSM server after upgrade

2005-08-17 Thread Shannon Bach
We have just upgraded our MVS ZOS TSM Server from 5.1xx to 5.2.2.  After getting errors in the Expiration process, I've followed a trail back to starting the TSM Server up during the IPL when we upgraded to ZOS.  Unlike the old days :~)    now we only IPL when there is a major upgrade or for dayl

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Pétur Eyþórsson
Joni Yes Reed is correct there. This is only one of 3 problems, your raid configuration on your sata disks. the size of your TSM attrigates. or the placements of diskvolumes versus the accual phicial disks. for instance if you have more than 2 volumes per phicial disk and you are doing backup

Re: vary volume offline?

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Bullock
I'm not sure with the varyoff, but I typically make it access=readonly, do a "move data" on the volume, which will move it to another volume in the storagepool, and then delete the volume if you are doing a reorg of your disks. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Ma

Re: vary volume offline?

2005-08-17 Thread Prather, Wanda
NO, do it this way: 1) UPDATE the volume to READONLY. 2) MOVE DATA on the volume. TSm will shuffle the data off to another volume in the same storage pool. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Moyer Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005

vary volume offline?

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Hello All! If I vary a volume offline can I then move the data off of that volume to a volume in the same storage pool that is online? Thanks! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *

Re: ANR1405W - Stuck during implementation

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Bullock
Ok so you have the maxscratch setting correct. Have to checked/labeled the tapes into the TSM server? Do a "q libvol" on the TSM server and see what scratch/private tapes listed. If there are none in the status of Scratch, that would be the issue. When you

Re: HELP!!!! Migrations taking too long and pools filling up!

2005-08-17 Thread Pétur Eyþórsson
Joni what size do you have on your tsm attrigates? the smaller you have them the slower the migration process is going to take, alsow do you have collocation on the storage pools you are migratig to if you do it is going to take logner to migrate. Have you found out where the bollteneck is on

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Leigh Reed
Joni I missed the URL off the last post, so firstly, here it is http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246638.pdf I don't think that there is a maximum number of volumes that can be configured in a primary storagepool with a devclass of disk and random. We have 25 volumes that are 35GB each

Re: New Backup Process

2005-08-17 Thread Pétur Eyþórsson
Ok Aaron you can find the sofware on this ftp site to download for free ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/server/v5r3/ you can then setup your tsm server and configure it, and when you revicve the accual cd´s you only need to replace one file to make it

Re: Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Hi Andy, I've changed the thresholds to hi=50 lo=40 for the larger disk pools that are over 600GB. I also empty them out once a day by changing the thresholds to hi=0 lo=0. My current problem is that the SATA disk isn't reading fast enough and writing to our tapes quick enough. I usually empty

Re: Resourceutilization & Backup Question

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Bullock
Debbie, We find that problem with the resourceutilization/collocation from time to time. Most nights, all the threads from one host are going to the diskpool, so they all run at the same time with no problems. The times we end up in the situation you describe is: - When the

Re: Windows 2K3 systemstate

2005-08-17 Thread Andrew Raibeck
TSM has had this support since version 5.1.6. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The comman

ANR1405W - Stuck during implementation

2005-08-17 Thread sandra
Dear All, I have installed TSM 5.2.0, installed patch 5.2.2.5 and implemented maintenace release 5.2.3.0 on Windows 2003. The Tape library is 3582 and 2 Ultrium II drives.I have barcode reader as well. ANR1405W appeaars whereas my there are scratch volumes availble and maxscratch=500 for LTOP

Re: SUSPECT: (MSW) Resourceutilization & Backup Question

2005-08-17 Thread Debbie Bassler
The max mount points is 10, that's the number of tape drives we have... This is the first time we've done a hot backup during the afternoon. Hopefully, taking the database down this afternoon will give us better preformance. Thanks for your help, Debbie PAC Brion Arnaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> S

Windows 2K3 systemstate

2005-08-17 Thread Meadows, Andrew
The last I heard the systemstate and system object was not suported by TSM on win 2K3 servers. Is this still the state and if so has anyone heard a date when it will be? Thanks, Andrew This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and ma

Re: Image backup

2005-08-17 Thread Pétur Eyþórsson
Nghiatd The System Preparation Tool (Sysprep) is a Windows tool to automate the successful deployment of Microsoft Windows. Sysprep is a tool that is designed for system administrators, Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs), and others who must automatically deploy the Windows operating syst

Re: Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Hi Joni, I notice your high migration threshold is 70 and low migration threshold is 60. Such a narrow threshold width could cause problems, since migration will taper off once the utilization drops below 60%. This means that more than half the pool is left populated with otherwise migratable data

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Hi Leigh, I have brought in 1TB of SATA disk for random disk storage pools. Would you happen to know if there is a maximum number of volumes that can be defined per storage pool? If I have a disk pool that is 800GB, how many volumes should I have defined? What should the max. size of each volum

JR- Backup sets

2005-08-17 Thread JR Trimark
What is the best practice for the creation of backup sets for Windows and NetWare? thanks in advance

Re: SUSPECT: (MSW) Resourceutilization & Backup Question

2005-08-17 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Debbie, What is the maxnummp value for this node ? You should not get such a problem if your client has enough mount points ... Concerning the variable duration for your oracle DB backup, I believe it's simply due to the activity on this DB : few people using it at night = most of the cpu availab

Re: script for TSM server on a WIN2000 server

2005-08-17 Thread Prather, Wanda
The simple task you describe below can be done with a TSM administrative command script, doesn't matter what platform. Look in your TSm server install directory for the file script.smp (sample TSM scripts). Look at the sample script BKUP_STG_DB; that shows how to check the return code to serialize

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Leigh Reed
Joni The following URL is to the TSM V5.3 Technical Guide Redbook. If you go to section 3.4.6, it discusses some changes in TSM 5.3 that lend themselves to 'disk only backups' Obviously, if you're not at 5.3 yet, then they may not be of use to you. I personally would consider SATA disk as a poss

Resourceutilization & Backup Question

2005-08-17 Thread Debbie Bassler
Is there any benefit to having the resourceutilization parameter set to 5 when the backup is collocated? The other sessions go into media wait status, waiting on a tape that one of the other sessions is using. Does this cause contention, slowing the server down? Also, I have another question. I'm

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Troy Frank
I'm not familiar with what type of disks/controllers your array uses, but if possible, use newer SATA2 equipment. It has support for native command queuing, which helps random access a lot. It's exactly why scsi disks are good for it, although scsi firmware tends to have deeper queues (which i

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Thanks for the info. Mark! Would anyone happen to know of any good papers on SATA disk and the ramifications/performance issues with it? Thanks again! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Work:(717)302-6603 Fax:(717)302-5974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *

Re: Our First 64 bit client

2005-08-17 Thread Bill Dourado
Thanks Mark. Bill "Stapleton, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 17/08/2005 14:38 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: [ADSM-L] Our First 64 bit client I believe that's an Opt

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Stapleton, Mark
You can use SATA disk in a random-access pool, but you're going to get performance hits because of the very nature of the disk. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Office 262.521.5627 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Joni Moyer Sent: Wed 8/17/2005 0

Re: Our First 64 bit client

2005-08-17 Thread Stapleton, Mark
I believe that's an Opteron, and the current 64-bit client won't install on that, either. My understanding from Tivoli (and of course this is not an obligation upon any party) is that we should see a Xeon-compatible 64-bit client "in September". The Opteron, I'm not sure. -- Mark Stapleton (

CELERRA NDMP backups - assistance request

2005-08-17 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
I am looking for someone who is performing TSM NDMP Celerra backups, who can answer lots of questions (we have never done this before and after reading the TSM admin quicky guide on how to do this, are still confused), about the setup/backup/restore process. We want to integrate this with our exis

script for TSM server on a WIN2000 server

2005-08-17 Thread Luc Beaudoin
Hi all I know that its a lot easier to use scripts on a AIX TSM server but .. is there anyone using scripts on a WIN2000 TSM server scripts to be able to starts schedule (backup storage pool diskpool, then if successful starts the backup storage pool tapepool) any documentation ??? or exemple .

Re: Our First 64 bit client

2005-08-17 Thread Bill Dourado
Mark, I have not yet visted the client , but when connecting to the clients C drive, I can see a directory AMD64. Which group does AMD fall in ? Thanks Bill "Stapleton, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 17/08/2005 14:16 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Ma

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Hi Mark, If it's strength is within sequential access, is there anything that I can do with the SATA disk at this point in time? Are there parameter changes or different configuration usage that I can do in order to still utilize the SATA disk as the disk storage pool? Or am I out of luck? Than

Re: Our First 64 bit client

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Bullock
Nor will any TSM client install on an Opteron/WIN combination. Ben -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:17 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Our First 64 bit client What kind of

Re: Our First 64 bit client

2005-08-17 Thread Stapleton, Mark
What kind of processor(s) are in the client? If they're Itanium, you're in good shape. If they are Xeons, be aware that the currently available 64-bit Windows TSM client will not install on Xeon-based chips. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Office 262.521.5627

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Stapleton, Mark
Remember that SATA disk has relatively crummy performance when you use random access to it; SATA's strength lies in sequential access. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Office 262.521.5627 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Joni Moyer Sent: Wed 8/17

Our First 64 bit client

2005-08-17 Thread Bill Dourado
Hi, I have been asked to backup an XP Sp1- x86 processors- client. The installation READ1st.TXT file for WIN 64 Client V5.2.4 contains the following:- - Windows XP 64 bit TSM Backup Archive GUI On Windows XP 64 bit with SP1 applied, the TSM Backup Archive GUI (dsm.exe) will fail to l

Re: Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Hi Mark, I haven't moved to file-based disk pools yet... It was a suggestion I had read in a manual. When it states I thread/volume is it referring to the volume defined within TSM or the physical disk volume? Here is my device class definition that I use for the storage pools: Device Class

Re: Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Stapleton, Mark
Ah, there's the problem. When you go to file-based disk pools, your migration threads are limited to 1. This is a great shock to those who are used to moving three or four threads at a go. TSM 5.3 is supposed to allow for multiple migration threads. That might be your only hope. -- Mark St

Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Hi Michael, I've looked at my storage pools and they are defined with caching turned off. This is EMC SATA disk that I have just defined, so I am wondering if that is my bottleneck at this point. Thanks for the suggestion! Joni Moyer Highmark Storage Systems Wor

Re: Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Hi Richard, My device class for the storage pools is DISK and I have read that it is better to use a device type of FILE when using ATA disk. Is this true and if so, how can I correct this? Our disk is EMC ATA Raid-3. We thought to get cheap disk as a landing spot for our backups and then do a

AW: [ADSM-L] Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Michael Garnebode
Hi Joni, Have a look to your storagepool definition with "q stg f=d" Migration Processes: 4 Next Storage Pool: WP_AZV01 Reclaim Storage Pool: Maximum Size Threshold: 500 M Access: Read/Write Description: dp

Re: HELP!!!! Migrations taking too long and pools filling up!

2005-08-17 Thread Iain Barnetson
I kinda had the same issues, only 6 tape drives & 250Gb of diskpool space and a lot of servers to backup. What I did, which works for us, is all the Exchange & SQL jobs go direct to tape, they're the biggest in terms of Gb, the rest are staggered to diskpool. The Big Exch & SQL jobs are allowed 2 m

Re: HELP!!!! Migrations taking too long and pools filling up!

2005-08-17 Thread John Naylor
Joni, Looks like you were unlucky and got hit by some extra large backups, which filled up your disk pool faster than it could be emptied I assume this is what caused a lot of backups to be delayed, by media wair. In truth it does sound as if you need more or faster tape drives. That aside what I

Re: Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Hello Everyone! How do you know if caching is turned on? How/where can you turn it off? I am having lousy migration speed perfomance as well. What can I look at/change? I have an AIX 5.2 server at TSM 5.2.4.0 with LTO2 tape drives attached. Thanks! Joni Moyer

Re: Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread David E Ehresman
>We back up around 220 Gb of data to the disk pool overnight, then migrate >(with caching on) to cartridge in the morning. > I assume you mean TSM storage pool caching rather than 3390 caching. If so, I'd turn off caching for a day and see if that makes a difference. It is my understanding th

Anybody using Tivoli to backup a "Progress" database?

2005-08-17 Thread Davis Adrian
Anybody using Tivoli to backup a "Progress" database? Does it work? Are there any known issues/problems? Many Thanks, =Adrian=

HELP!!!! Migrations taking too long and pools filling up!

2005-08-17 Thread Joni Moyer
Hello Everyone! Due to our tape drive shortage I have added a tremendous amount of disk to hold the data for 24 hours. It appears as if now it is taking a very long time for the disk pools to migrate to tape and processes are still backing up and causing contention with backups of the client data

Re: Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread Leigh Reed
Jim The fact that you say other (non-TSM) backup jobs to the tapes have not degraded and also large TDP backups are not affected, seems to rule out the tape performance completely. I don't know anything about the model of disk that you mentioned, but is it a SAN and does the diskpool share the dis

Migration Speed Has Plummeted

2005-08-17 Thread James Duncan
Hi there... I hope someone can offer some help with the following problem.. ServerTivoli Storage Manager for MVS V5 R2 L2.0 84 clients - mixture of Windows, Netware, AIX, Lotus Notes, Solaris. Disk Pool IBM 3390-3 Mainframe Disks Tape Pool IBM 3590-E Magstar x4 2x fibe channe