[Acme] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Rats] Explaining the "PKIX Evidence" draft,

2024-07-24 Thread Mike Ounsworth
Awesome. Thanks for talking with Yaron Michael! Cross-posting to ACME. One quibble, “ACME uses CSRs.”; true; putting the attestation payload inside the CSR, and the CSR inside ACME is one way to do it (IMO it’s an excellent way to do it), but I also want to nod to Brandon’s draft-acme-

[Acme] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Rats] Explaining the "PKIX Evidence" draft,

2024-07-24 Thread Aaron Gable
I'll note that I'm generally strongly in favor of introducing new ACME identifier types. I'm not very familiar with the exact proposal being discussed here, but I think that more reliance on identifiers presented at newOrder time, and less reliance on attributes of the finalize-time CSR, is the way

[Acme] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Rats] Explaining the "PKIX Evidence" draft,

2024-07-24 Thread Mike Ounsworth
Hey Aron (dropping RATS) > allowing ACME Servers to ignore the CSR entirely if they so wished Yeah, that is the direction that CSRs seem to be going for WebPKI – the CSR is just a public key container with PoP, but we actually don’t really care about PoP anymore. I wouldn’t be ag

[Acme] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Rats] Explaining the "PKIX Evidence" draft,

2024-07-24 Thread Ilari Liusvaara
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 01:05:45PM -0700, Aaron Gable wrote: > > For example, I hope to introduce a proposal for a "pubkey" identifier type, > so that TLS ACME clients can submit their pubkey at newOrder time. This > would remove the last field that the ACME CA truly relies on the CSR for, > allow

[Acme] Can we rename "draft-bweeks-acme-device-attest" to "webauthn-attest"?

2024-07-24 Thread Mike Ounsworth
Hi Brandon, So, you are registering the challenge "device-attest-01", but your draft is very specific to WebAuthn, and excludes any other attestation technology. Request: could you either rename your draft to "webauthn-attest-01", or if you're willing to broaden the scope of your draft, the

[Acme] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Rats] Explaining the "PKIX Evidence" draft,

2024-07-24 Thread Michael Richardson
Aaron Gable wrote: > For example, I hope to introduce a proposal for a "pubkey" identifier > type, so that TLS ACME clients can submit their pubkey at newOrder > time. This would remove the last field that the ACME CA truly relies on > the CSR for, allowing ACME Servers to ignore

[Acme] Re: Presentations for the ACME session at IETF 120

2024-07-24 Thread Yoav Nir
Hi, all So far, we've only got slides from Aaron. And while it's be happy to hear him talk for two hours, he insists that he needs far less than that. Please send or propose your slides real soon. Regards, Tomofumi and Yoav On Jul 21, 2024, 19:26, at 19:26, Yoav Nir wrote: >Hi, all > >I see