Re: [Acme] scope in dns-account-01 and dns-02 challenge

2024-03-31 Thread Ilari Liusvaara
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 11:44:22AM -0700, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: > Ilari, you've posted some useful extrapolations on how domain scopes could > work. I'm proposing to get rid of domain scopes. :D To get us on the same > page, would you mind posting some of the specific use cases you're > envi

Re: [Acme] scope in dns-account-01 and dns-02 challenge

2024-03-21 Thread Amir Omidi
Accidentally sent this as a private reply earlier. First, I don't want the BR process to drive the IETF process. I've been mostly avoiding really thinking about the BRs with this draft. Especially since participation here feels a lot simpler and democratic than it does at CA/B. Regarding my resis

Re: [Acme] scope in dns-account-01 and dns-02 challenge

2024-03-21 Thread Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
Ilari, you've posted some useful extrapolations on how domain scopes could work. I'm proposing to get rid of domain scopes. :D To get us on the same page, would you mind posting some of the specific use cases you're envisioning where domain scopes would be used in an ACME environment? My existing b

Re: [Acme] scope in dns-account-01 and dns-02 challenge

2024-03-21 Thread Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 5:57 PM Amir Omidi wrote: > I feel like splitting this challenge into three (and potentially more, as > extra scopes may or may not be added into the future) might be a little too > noisy. > Combined with my other proposals, we only wind up with two total challenge types:

Re: [Acme] scope in dns-account-01 and dns-02 challenge

2024-03-21 Thread Ilari Liusvaara
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 08:57:11PM -0400, Amir Omidi wrote: > I do think that this draft can do a better job describing the scope. I > think we should make it more explicit for the client to understand which > one will be used. I feel like splitting this challenge into three (and > potentially more

Re: [Acme] scope in dns-account-01 and dns-02 challenge

2024-03-20 Thread Amir Omidi
I do think that this draft can do a better job describing the scope. I think we should make it more explicit for the client to understand which one will be used. I feel like splitting this challenge into three (and potentially more, as extra scopes may or may not be added into the future) might be

Re: [Acme] scope in dns-account-01 and dns-02 challenge

2024-03-19 Thread Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
Seo Suchan said: > Would it be illegal to server probe both scope and pass if there is intended token? This is a possibility, but it's inefficient and I think it's likely to lead to implementation bugs. Better to be clear and explicit on both sides. Amir Omidi said: > My intention that I should p

Re: [Acme] scope in dns-account-01 and dns-02 challenge

2024-03-19 Thread Ilari Liusvaara
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 04:03:07PM -0700, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: > Thanks, authors, for the updates in > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-acme-scoped-dns-challenges-00 > . > > Adding a "scope" (host, wildcard, or subdomain) to the DNS record name is > great. Reading the draft

Re: [Acme] scope in dns-account-01 and dns-02 challenge

2024-03-18 Thread Amir Omidi
> I think it doesn't specify how the scope for a given challenge is decided and communicated. Great point. My intention that I should probably clarify in the draft is that the server picks based on the Authorization object: - If wildcard: true on the authorization object associated with the

Re: [Acme] scope in dns-account-01 and dns-02 challenge

2024-03-18 Thread Seo Suchan
Would it be illegal to server probe both scope and pass if there is intended token? On 2024년 3월 19일 오전 8시 3분 7초 GMT+09:00, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: >Thanks, authors, for the updates in >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-acme-scoped-dns-challenges-00 >. > >Adding a "scope" (ho