[9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-29 Thread kalona . ayeliski
ᎦᎦᏐᎩ ᏚᎵᏍᏗ,  ᏓᏟᎶᏍᏛ ᎢᎦᏍᏗᎢ,  ᏴᏫ ᎤᏍᏗᏁᎸ.* Setting Up and Managing Venti with Automatic Mirroring in Plan 9* Plan 9 from Bell Labs offers innovative tools, including Venti, a network storage system for archiving. This essay outlines the setup and management of Venti with automatic mirroring and compa

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2024-07-30 Thread kalona . ayeliski
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Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-30 Thread kalona . ayeliski
I will place this on my work and posts to show ownership. Attribute the work to me as you should: Copyright 2024 by Kalona Ayeliski. All rights reserved. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tca0eb0fbb2404e31

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-30 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Please elaborate on any issues you find in my work and explain where I am wrong. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tca0eb0fbb2404e31-M92c094c92d8a2886ebf96bd5 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscrip

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-30 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Peer review involves presenting a claim, research, or work to others who are experts in the same field. These peers critically evaluate the work, test its assertions, and provide feedback. The goal is to ensure the validity, reliability, and originality of the work before it is published or wide

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-30 Thread kalona . ayeliski
I did all the work myself. If you choose to be dismissive, that is your prerogative. The original question remains unanswered; you have only complained and criticized, doing little to address it. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-30 Thread kalona . ayeliski
No. The issue lies in the lack of responses to Marco's question and the minimal constructive feedback when someone does respond. I value the efforts of those who attempt to provide answers. If I am mistaken, I would rather make an attempt and be corrected than remain silent. Marco Feichtinger w

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-31 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Fifteen replies without a verifiable answer are excessive. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tca0eb0fbb2404e31-M69edba4219c0c3fc8dfa201d Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-31 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Thank you, Steve. Based on the feedback, this is the best advice we can give Marco. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tca0eb0fbb2404e31-M6ee5337dbab29994153fe350 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subs

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-31 Thread kalona . ayeliski
and backup storage in Plan 9. Follow these steps to deploy a reliable and efficient Venti storage system. Copyright 2024 by Kalona Ayeliski. All rights reserved. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tca0eb0fbb2404e31-M9389e5

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-31 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Hardware: IBM ThinkCentre S50 (2003) OS: Plan 9 from Bell Labs (4th Ed) Currently experiencing intermittent hardware issues; sometimes it does not post. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tca0eb0fbb2404e31-M3265d67ed0f86e2a

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-31 Thread kalona . ayeliski
I'm working to find an answer for Marco despite hardware issues. I hope to replace my mainboard when funds allow. Trying is better than not trying. If Marco gets a fair answer, we're done. Until then, let's get him closer. Attacking someone for trying to help is surprising. I thought 9fans was a

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-31 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Kurt, whining implies a sound. If you hear sounds, you're hallucinating like an LLM. ;-) Thank you. It’s good practice to post the copyright. Copyright 2024 by Kalona Ayeliski. All rights reserved. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbo

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-31 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Would anyone like to comment on Marco's question? If few people use Venti, that's okay; I understand the reluctance to help. Copyright 2024 by Kalona Ayeliski. All rights reserved. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/gr

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-01 Thread kalona . ayeliski
No, but I'll keep pushing on. Using notes from an old presentation, I value completeness. Retirement gives me the time to try again. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tca0eb0fbb2404e31-M7d1cc34587a4fcf4be9cb9f8 Delivery o

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-01 Thread kalona . ayeliski
te tool ensures data resilience in Plan 9 systems, safeguarding against hardware failures. Copyright 2024 by Kalona Ayeliski. All rights reserved. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tca0eb0fbb2404e31-M87f2f824fda2bdc4651c2

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-01 Thread kalona . ayeliski
No one is obligated to help. I'm asking those who care enough to assist. 9fans is a place to ask and receive help. If it takes a while to get a reasonable answer, we must adapt to the lack of available, helpful experts. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-01 Thread kalona . ayeliski
but for Venti archives, `venti/mirrorarenas` is the preferred tool. Reference For more details, see [How to mirror one Venti to another](https://www.cespedes.org/blog/tag=69). Copyright 2024 by Kalona Ayeliski. All rights reserved. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalin

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
SOP should be reviewed annually to ensure it remains current and effective. - Incident Review: Any incidents should trigger an immediate review and possible update of this SOP. Copyright 2024 by Kalona Ayeliski. All rights reserved. -- 9fans:

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
khm, you can think whatever you like. If true, then all you can do is let it be. My point is accurate information should be easy to find and read, like in a wiki. Mailing lists are for discussions, not for searching answers. It’s ideal when discussions lead to action items that improve the overa

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
khm, if you need validation as an expert, that's on you. Naom, 9fans isn't a single source of truth, but rather is a place for holding discussions.  I see this as a documentation problem. If people can't find information easily, they ask. Without credible documentation, the cycle never ends. We

[9fans] Improving Plan 9 Documentation

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
be reviewed annually. - Update Procedure: Amendments to the SOP must be approved by the system administration team. --Chris Childers (aka Kalona Ayeliski) -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T3bed924e432ee795

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Code serves as a better single source of truth than 9fans. If you rely on 9fans for accuracy, it's understandable to be upset when the quality of posts is lacking. Accurate documentation is crucial when 9fans' quality declines. If everyone shirks responsibility for documentation, the problem wil

[9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
If I cannot find support and collaboration on 9fans, where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9804faa2e50a80d8-M09f72343ee638bca94297b8f Delivery options: h

Re: [9fans] Improving Plan 9 Documentation

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
The annual review is solely for my use. I organize recurring tasks with a monthly tickler system based on their frequency. You are right; it may not be suitable for community practice. Many of my ideas and practices are unconventional. -- 9fans: 9fans Perm

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
I'm not a troll; frustrated, perhaps. I just don't understand this culture. I don't think the issue lies with LLMs, but rather with an unwillingness to cooperate unless there's payment involved. I've never encountered an open-source community quite like this. Creating a separate mailing list to

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
When knowledge is lacking, make assumptions and test them if possible. If you're struggling, show your work so others can see and comment on your mistakes. If I told you my math problem without showing my work, you couldn't accurately assess my errors. This approach is based on my formal trainin

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
I didn't get it wrong, I was asked to send money if I wanted help, which I found unusual. I am using the Plan 9 wiki (https://9p.io/wiki/plan9/plan_9_wiki/) for information. I've read the manual and docs there, but the documentation is lacking. I'm not sure how often the docs, manuals, and ISO

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
I feel like 9fans engages in a bait and switch. I come for Plan 9 but end up with something else I didn't ask for. I have even been solicited to work on documentation of an non-Plan 9 project. This community is just plain odd. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: ht

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
>From a newcomer's perspective, it feels like dealing with a cult run by scam >artists. It seems someone wants to profit from me by selling books on Amazon, >like a multi-level marketing group. People say others here are on a spectrum, >but it feels more like psychosis, with a loss of contact wi

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
No. This is how you treat newcomers. Get a grip on reality. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9804faa2e50a80d8-Mea82700d26e1e15ea704faed Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
I am sharing my perspective, but it seems you disagree with my viewpoint and want to label me negatively. Is this how your group handles differing opinions? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9804faa2e50a80d8-M216634f2c2c141

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
No, you don't want to face reality. Look at the situation. Newcomers struggle to engage with Plan 9 and this community. I showed you evidence from 10 years ago, and you still discount it. You can live in a delusion if you want. I won't. -- 9fans: 9fans Perm

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
People who don't face reality are often called delusional, in denial, or out of touch with reality. If you a perpetuating a delusion for gain, what should I consider that to be...I'm thinking a scam artist. My point of view is just that simple. -- 9fans: 9

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
What do you expect when you're attacked in this manner? You can attack back or run away or just take it. You have my response.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9804faa2e50a80d8-M311dada09a10e6692e8af916 Delivery options:

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
If something good comes from this thread, it was worth it. If nothing changes, the delusions persist, and someone else will have a similar experience.  -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9804faa2e50a80d8-Mfbdf682f423872d7913

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Thank you, Clout Tolstoy, for your comment. The goal isn't to kill the thread but to help others. It's easy to get sidetracked when attacked. I wanted to highlight issues that, as a newcomer, are unpleasant but noticeable. Starting a Plan 9 newcomers' group seems like a good idea. Newcomers can

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
No, I have listened. You did not expect a newcomer to be so vocal. If the community is as small as you say, improving the community pages should be quick and easy. Or, if needed, placing a disclaimer on the Plan 9 website stating the ISO is deprecated and should not be used wouldn't be difficult

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
This situation is becoming more intriguing. I am guessing that P9F hosts 9fans. If P9F provides the official Plan 9 ISO but 9fans doesn't support it, I don't understand why. I thought 9fans supported the Plan 9 ISO. I would like discussions on how to use and improve documentation. It seems no on

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
If people are going to be continually deceived, it seems right to report fraud, including scams and bad business practices, to the Federal Trade Commission. Let them sort this out. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9804faa

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Michael. I'm done with these fraudsters. Good bye. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9804faa2e50a80d8-Md195842528480031eef1deaa Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription