Re: [9fans] is lsub web server up?

2013-06-09 Thread arnold
onnection refused > > sorts of errors from http://lsub.org. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Arnold > I got the paper. Much thanks! Arnold

[9fans] Any Israeli Plan 9 users?

2013-09-01 Thread arnold
So, in the same spirit as the earlier mail... Are there any Plan 9 users in Israel? I live near Modi'in and work in Jerusalem, so those are the most convenient areas for me but other travel in order to meet is not unreasonable. Much thanks, Arnold (Aharon) Robbins

Re: [9fans] how to output NUL byte from awk?

2013-09-17 Thread arnold
) gawk 'BEGIN { printf("\0") }' "No arbitrary limits" in action. :-) Arnold

Re: [9fans] Purely historical question on variadic function notation

2013-10-16 Thread arnold
It came into C89 from C++, along with all the function prototype stuff, just as Joel said. I no longer have all the paper drafts from the initial ANSI C effort but I remember this quite well. Arnold fge...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks for the guess! > Since I could not directly fin

Re: [9fans] p9p mk rc help

2013-11-20 Thread arnold
> ! ~ $st ?* ^ '|' ^ * Sheesh. I'm a long time Unix type and even to *me* that looks like line noise. :-) Arnold

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

2014-03-03 Thread arnold
> pxe doesn't know how to decompress. So, what? It's, like, stressed out *all* the time? (Sorry, couldn't resist. :-) Arnold

Re: [9fans] [APExp] which non-9front Plan9 variants are active? (for portability testing)

2024-09-17 Thread arnold
Although Plan 9 has some version of BWK's awk on it, I'd be curious if you can get gawk running in your extended APE. Thanks, Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T399a5d787978799e-M19098a01e7d0a7fcf590157

Re: [9fans] [APExp] which non-9front Plan9 variants are active? (for portability testing)

2024-09-17 Thread arnold
Thanks for the info. FYI, just this morning I released gawk 5.3.1; it should be on ftp.gnu.org by now. If not, it will be soon. Thanks! Arnold Jens Staal wrote: > Yes in fact in the 0.1 release, I am using gawk 4.0.0 (an old port) as > default awk. > > Current "main" br

Re: [9fans] Plan9 C compiler targetting WASM

2024-12-17 Thread arnold
Is there a version of ken-cc that can be used as an alternative C compiler to compile regular old code on Linux? Thanks, Arnold "Daniel Maslowski via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > Regarding RISC-V: > Richard Miller did the port, and there is also an updated kencc.

Re: [9fans] Serving tftp on a second interface

2025-04-09 Thread arnold
Paul Lalonde wrote: > I neglected to add that tcp17020 is the tls trampoline that redirects to > 564. > > So I suspect my tls handshake but don't know how to debug it. Um, wireshark on Linux? Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation January Board Meeting Minutes

2025-04-25 Thread arnold
Publishing the meeting minutes here is nice. Might I suggest that they also be put up on the website in an easily visible place? Thanks, Arnold paul lalonde wrote: > We had a couple of meetings fail to meet quorum, so the January minutes > have only now been approved. Find them at

Re: [9fans] Curious about the state of Plan 9 / 9front in practice

2025-05-15 Thread arnold
Coraid uses Plan 9 on all their systems. Lucas Francesco wrote: > Hi all, recently i've decided to make my compsci bachelor capstone > project about a plan9 tool and I’m curious to know and it would be a > bit relevant for me: what’s the current state of Plan 9/9front in > actual practice? Are

Re: [9fans] A challenge for all of you out there ...

2025-06-03 Thread arnold
to a good book. I don't see that happening, for me, anytime soon, though, unfortunately. HTH, Arnold s...@stanleylieber.com wrote: > > It needs to be reliable and easy and, sadly, it can't require lots of > > reading. > > reliable, of course. easy, fine. but without &g

Re: [9fans] A challenge for all of you out there ...

2025-06-03 Thread arnold
I wasn't able to get to that outline. Is the URL correct? Thanks, Arnold "sirjofri via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > 02.06.2025 22:50:17 Paul Lalonde : > > > Stanley writes: > > > > but how do we transmit deep knowledge of strange computing con

Re: [9fans] The Big Questioning: Plan 9 everywhere?

2025-06-30 Thread arnold
y things out there in C++ that would be useful to have on Plan 9.) Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf84d656c78bbda91-M6dc469078d32411e8daaaecf Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] The Big Questioning: Plan 9 everywhere?

2025-06-30 Thread arnold
t the Plan 9 way, IMHO. Has anyone tried to build Gnu Awk under APE? I've always wondered if it would work there. Thanks, Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf84d656c78bbda91-M28b35f6965fa81dd25b4f

Re: [9fans] The Big Questioning: Plan 9 everywhere?

2025-06-30 Thread arnold
side step configure and just manually turn configh.in into a config.h. And then do a mkfile. Feel free to discuss w/me off-list if you decide to pursue it further. Thanks, Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf84d6

Re: [9fans] linux stats in last year from linuxcon

2009-09-22 Thread David Arnold
On 22/09/2009, at 4:47 PM, Jack Norton wrote: In the end I don't care what the linux devs do, but they need to come up with a game plan and either fork (server, desktop linux) or include it all and try and make everyone happy (the latter will end in chaos me thinks). There are several Lin

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread David Arnold
On 16/03/2010, at 5:02 PM, Patrick Kelly wrote: > Any thought as to using the OpenMoko as a phone platform? Unfortunately, I don't think either the Neo1973 or the FreeRunner are useful as a daily-use phone due to various hardware bugs or limitations. d

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread David Arnold
On 17 Nov 2016, at 12:18, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 07:55:38PM -0500, Charlie Lin wrote: >> Also does anyone want to host the source tree in a repository? > > This sounds like a lot of work. Who would undertake this?? GitHub, GitLab, or BitBucket all provide gratis repository

[9fans] updating awk ...

2018-08-27 Thread Arnold Robbins
Hi. A few years ago Erik synced the Plan 9 awk with Brian Kernighan's. I have recently gotten BWK to fix some long-standing bugs. His code is updated and available at https://github.com/onetrueawk/awk. If "someone" wants to pull in his changes, now's a good time to do so. :-) Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] PDP11

2018-10-08 Thread David Arnold
> On 9 Oct 2018, at 14:08, Digby R.S. Tarvin wrote: <…> > So I don't think it i would be worth a substantial rewrite to get it going. > It is a shame that there don't seem to have been any more powerful machines > with a comparably elegant architecture and attractive front panel :) > > An att

Re: [9fans] Someone made a Wayland compositor based on Rio, Wio

2019-05-01 Thread David Arnold
It seems like it runs another Wayland compositor (Cage) in its windows, so the ability to nest compositors is there but I saw no mention of nesting itself. No fs yet either although it’s mentioned as a todo. d > On 2 May 2019, at 14:36, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > Can Wio run inside Wio?

Re: [9fans] A new language for Plan 9

2008-05-03 Thread David Arnold
On 02/05/2008, at 8:34 AM, Chad Dougherty wrote: Robert William Fuller wrote: I don't use Python for this very reason. This is probably why Ruby exists. I will not use your language for the same reason. By adopting such draconian white space rules you automatically alienate a large numb

Re: [9fans] Android / G1

2009-02-16 Thread David Arnold
On 16/02/2009, at 2:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: do mobile carriers allow (in a legal sense) unblessed device/OS on their networks? In the Linux-based phones that I'm familiar with, the GSM protocol is implemented as a separate module. It uses a serial interface (and an extended AT comm

Re: [9fans] ARM hardware and SATA

2019-12-12 Thread David Arnold
> On 12 Dec 2019, at 17:31, Lucio De Re wrote: > > I'd like suggestions for some hardware on which to run Plan 9, almost > certainly expandable SSD capacity will be a must (Venti service). > Price and quality will be the biggest factors, as always. > > Ideally, storage is where the value will re

Re: [9fans] ARM hardware and SATA

2019-12-13 Thread David Arnold
> On 12 Dec 2019, at 17:32, Lucio De Re wrote: > > I'd like suggestions for some hardware on which to run Plan 9, almost > certainly expandable SSD capacity will be a must (Venti service). > Price and quality will be the biggest factors, as always. > > Ideally, storage is where the value will r

[9fans] looking for an old program

2020-10-08 Thread Arnold Robbins
Hi All. Is there a current URL from which I can snarf this program? Thanks, Arnold > From: fernanbola...@mailc.net (Fernan Bolando) > Subject: [9fans] slightly on topic: pic preprocessor for drawing electronic > circuits > Message-ID: > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:01:37

[9fans] P9F meetings (was: Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community)

2024-01-25 Thread David Arnold
> On 26 Jan 2024, at 07:38, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: <…> > If you have specific ways we can support people like you > taking up the torch and carrying plan 9 development forward, > please speak up and let us know; I'll ensure that it gets > discussed at the next P9F meeting. Is there any recor

Re: [9fans] troll paper

2024-04-12 Thread David Arnold
> The vetting process needs some work, lads. More heresy than trolling, perhaps? It was thought-provoking for me. I wished I was there for the bar session afterwards. d -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T51f7f5a8927

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 from User Space still mantained?

2024-06-21 Thread David Arnold
You might try the developers mailing list plan9port-...@googlegroups.com as well d > On 20 Jun 2024, at 22:53, Roderick wrote: > > Dear Sirs! > > I hope, I can also ask here about Plan9 port ... > > I just compiled master from on FreeBSD14.0: > https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/ > > Is th

[9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-04-30 Thread Michael Arnold
Booting from the CR-ROM ISO download on 28 April and get the following: PSB1... Plan 9 from Bell Labs ELCR:0E28 Clockinit...alarminit...meminit...spollo...pcimatch...kbdinit...plan9.ini probe...probing floppy...probing floppy...probing BIOS...probing BIOS...islba:drive 0X80 extensions version 48.

Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-05-01 Thread Michael Arnold
Thanks erik - that works perfectly! On 30/04/10 10:07 PM, "erik quanstrom" wrote: >> Some additional info on the hardware: >> - CD Rom - Philips DVD+-RW DVD8801 ATA Device >> - IDE Controller is an Intel 82801G (ICH7 family) Ultra ATA Storage >> Controllers ­ 27D7F, PCI Bus 0,IRQ: 0x000E (1

Re: [9fans] C beautifier

2011-09-18 Thread David Arnold
On Sun Sep 18 14:10:06 EDT 2011, n...@lsub.org wrote: > anyone is using a C beautifier in Plan 9? > I mean, other than gnu indent, which I tried and does not > work quite right for me. uncrustify is fairly flexible, but takes some work up front to describe your desired output style. http://uncr

Re: [9fans] sleep(2) historical question

2012-11-28 Thread David Arnold
On 28/11/2012, at 1:58 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > Why not add nsleep() with sleeptime in nanosecond units? And > of course, any necessary kernel changes for better accuracy. Is POSIX' nanosleep() or old-POSIX/BSD/XOpen's usleep() out of the question? d

Re: [9fans] big endian plan 9 machine?

2013-01-13 Thread David Arnold
On 13/01/2013, at 2:21 PM, John Floren wrote: > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: Blue Gene >>> >>> hard to fit in the basement. >> >> How about an ipengine (mpc823)? I've got one gathering dust here. > > I caution against working on any hardware

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-15 Thread David Arnold
On 24/10/2013, at 5:57 PM, Keith wrote: > Who here remembers/knows of the vision for the apple newton? The iPad > realized it when the technology was able and the time was right. Who is to > say the same couldn't be said for 9? I suspect that Plan9ers will be as disappointed as Newtonians at th

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-23 Thread David Arnold
http://newftp.9atom.org/other/+usbinstamd64.bz2 resolves (www vs. newftp). d On 24/12/2013, at 9:44 AM, Blake McBride wrote: > I am having trouble with that link. Is it correct? > > Thanks. > > Blake > > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:11 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Thu Dec 19 20:54:04

Re: [9fans] A challenge for all of you out there ...

2025-06-03 Thread David Arnold
> On 3 Jun 2025, at 21:05, adventures in9 wrote: <…> > I am a generally helpful guy, but if you are installing drawterm on > Linux, and cannot handle googling for a dependency package, I'm sure > you also have a Windows machine near buy and can just go download > drawterm.exe I’m not sure on t

Re: [9fans] linux vm appliance

2025-06-16 Thread David Arnold
On 6/15/25 17:35, sirjofri via 9fans wrote: I read a bit through Wayland and it seems like we could take a Wayland implementation (like weston) and adjust it to output to devdraw instead of using Linux DMA or vulkan or whatever. That adjusted Weston could run inside the Linux vm. That way, the

Re: [9fans] A challenge for all of you out there ...

2025-06-12 Thread David Arnold
> On 13 Jun 2025, at 04:17, Ron Minnich wrote: > > I don't see the value of appimage in a statically linked binary world > that we have in Plan 9. What would it add? The suggestion was in response to discussion of the difficulties people report getting drawterm running on Linux. It has depen

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