although this is all true, in the context of my comment needsquote() in libfmt
is more relevant.
the rc shell has a well defined quoting convention, but this is not shared by
awk or sed. Thus tosplit the fields in du's output you need something that
understands this convention, like the she
I think I once saw one at the Chelsea flower show,
Designed and produced by a team of 37 spiders...
-Steve
> On 12 Oct 2015, at 10:49, Staven wrote:
>
> I thought a web garden was a hobbyist version of a server farm.
>
Anyone any experience of a provider of free SSL/TLS
certificates they would reccomend?
I appologise if my terminology is imperfect, I am new
to this game.
-Steve
I don't know about the PDP but the VAX allowed access to address zero.
Even more insidious, it allowed you to dereference a null pointer and
guaranteed it would contain a zero, which resulted in many tiresome portability
issues - I used Interdatas at the time, which faulted on a read at address
I may have the code, I might even have a haupage card somewhere.
The card had an rf tuner and a composite (maybe y/c) input and as such is more
than a little dated in these Meg 2/4 broadcast days (in the uk at least).
-Steve
> On 2 Dec 2015, at 17:35, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
>
> Long ago P
I have long wanted to do this but on the one occasion I tried I got lost inside
fossil.
the problem is fossil expects venti to have a hierarchy of the form /active/
and /archive/ where as your venti does not, I guess it has just your home dir.
it is easy to create the required placeholder in a
I wonder, have you installed the contribution package? If not then this is what
you need, I think - it's been a few years since I did this...
9fs sources
/n/sources/contrib/fgb/root/rc/bin/contrib/install fgb/contrib
Once this completes you should be able to do the installs you wanted.
FYI, i ha
If I where redesigning ping I wouldn't repeat any info that is common on each
line - I.e. ip addresses or the column titles: rtt, ave etc.
consider plan9's ps(1) which has no column titles. they are described in the
man page and are obvious from the context once you have read the man page once.
I would display the IP address once only, rather on every line; as it is a
common factor.
-Steve
> On 30 Dec 2015, at 15:26, Kurt H Maier wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 03:05:33PM +, Steve Simon wrote:
>> If I where redesigning ping I wouldn't repeat any
> It is not a common factor if you ping broadcast.
Yep, fair point.
I admit I have never done a ping broadcast.
I did hear a story of somone who (in the early days of ethernet)
built a ping broadcast packet, with the source address of the broadcast address.
This resulted in the mother of all pa
anyone done any work to implement mDNS / bonjour on plan9?
my rough plan is to write a file server which generates /lib/ndb/mdns
which can be included into your /lib/ndb/local.
I fear the biggest hassle is the clash of UDP port use may mean
mDNS must become part of dns(1) rather than a separate
n 1 19:32:25 PST 2016, m...@boschma.cx wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2 Jan 2016, at 7:05 am, Steve Simon wrote:
>>>> anyone done any work to implement mDNS / bonjour on plan9?
>>>
>>> No, but I have an interest; just starting out with Plan9 :)
>>&g
/ndb/local, just a static spec.
my target is porting shairport, and maybe Dnla at a later date.
-Steve
> On 2 Jan 2016, at 03:42, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
>> On Fri Jan 1 19:32:25 PST 2016, m...@boschma.cx wrote:
>>
>>> On 2 Jan 2016, at 7:05 am, Steve Simon wrote:
I have been running my a smtp server on plan9 for about
10 years but I beleive I am having more and more incomming
mail bounce because of plan9's lack of support for tls 1.2.
What is anyone else doing about this?
stop ovvering ESMTP in smptd?
Using a 3rd party smtpd supplier (go
😀
> On 31 Mar 2016, at 03:09, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
>
>
> > cd /n/facebook
>
> cd /
> unmount /n/facebook
> rm -fr /sys/src/cmd/facebook* /*/bin/facebookfs
I started with Sam a sit ran on all the different unixes I used an vi an emacs
just felt clunky.
I never got into help and when acme replaced that I just never made the
transition.
I love Sam, though it is because I know it so well.
btw, anyone written scripts to allow the plan9 wiki to be ed
worth remembering that hdmi and DVI are equivalent in terms of what is needed
for a computer monitor.
hence hdmi to DVI adopters are very cheap.
-Steve
> On 28 May 2016, at 18:49, Dave MacFarlane wrote:
>
> That's exactly what I'm doing. I don't have a monitor with HDMI within
> network-cabl
I use the Pi 2 version daily at work with an hdmi monitor.
there seem to be a couple of lurking bugs in the sub driver which
generate spurious grumbles and seem to prevent sub serial adapters
from working, which is a minor annoyance. Other than that it works like a charm.
audio out is still broke
I have a different approach.
Personally I have only command line utilities as I keep Plan9 as my desktop
(raspberry PI).
I need to cross compile on windows so I have a tool to cpu into a windows box
(called dos).
This allows me to have a rio window onto a a dos shell.
It does the trick like cp
it has been very quiet, but I am still here.
9front is more active these days.
-Steve
> On 23 Aug 2016, at 01:00, Adriano Verardo wrote:
>
> Hi, all
> I don'receive from the group since June.
> I've changed my subscription, opened another gmail account (mail-dot-com had
> problems),
> conta
hi all.
I get less time for plan9 too, a new higher pressure job and twins are my
excuses. I still have my home server which is my mail and web presence and
maintains my domain, A raspberry Pi at work runs my desktop.
I hope fix the broken raspberry Pi audio and write a Dropbox client... and p
have you done the hack to the registry described in the code manual page.
Microsoft keep moving the goalposts and my memory fades, but I use cifs to win7
daily at work. I will look at the config but I am on holiday for a week.
I also have the VMware code for plan9 from russ. he felt it is not en
next week I will help, I wrote CICS so I should be able to sort it out.
I am on holiday at the moment so I cannot do much now but sympathise.
-Steve
On 28 Aug 2016, at 09:16, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
>> * boxB doesn't see no boxA shared folders.
>
> i would start there. once
hi,
Sam has been my only editor since the X11 port was released in about 1992.
I have not really tried acme, I never gave it a real chance but I used to use it
to edit the plan 9 wiki so I have a little skill.
I agree scroll select is the one feature I would add - I have a feeling the
9front guy
the linker rejects later instances of symbols if it had already found an
instance. the important point however is that this is done on a per file basis
if the symbol is in a library.
the case where I have seen this is your code (the kernel code in this case)
references another symbol which only
I have a Pi at work and a dual atom file/cpu/auth/etc server at home. it works
well, it takes a few seconds to authenticate but is quick once you are
connected.
I boot from the pi's flash so I don't really have a terminal but I keep almost
nothing in the Pi.
-Steve
> On 30 Sep 2016, at 21:2
mine is a dual atom mini itx box, with two mirrored disks - though i have an
ssd to add when i get a chance.
the server is a combined auth/cpu/venti/fossil/mail/domain/web server.
it consumes 26watts which could be better but is not bad.
a pi with a few sata3 interfaces would be interesting.
-
Hi all,
I am using libtask on an embedded system with great success,
however I would like to add remote file access to the system...
9p seems a good fit ☺
Anyone written or ported a small simple 9p library;
I am after client and server but anything would be good.
Thanks,
-Steve
hi all,
just interested, anyone looked at the sw gui front end to ampl,
it is roughly a rio window (9term) for win32.
most interesting with rc on the back end i would think.
http://www.netlib.org/ampl/student/mswin/readme.sw
-Steve
> On 20 Oct 2016, at 19:41, Steven Stallion wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:15 PM, wrote:
>> Steven Stallion writes:
>>
>>> Sizing venti is also simple.
>>
>> I disagree with this. The best way to configure venti depends largely
>> on how you plan to use it. I have multiple venti s
i agree absolutely with steve here, expanding venture arena by arena is easy,
the ventibackup scripts show you how. even easier is to add arenas on a
different disk partition to the same venti.
personally i wouldn't keep music or videos in venti. they don't compress well
using the arithmetic te
hi,
mine is the older model which is not passively cooled, a fan is needed
(not to hand so i have no part numbers).
it has a 40mm cpu fan but that is all. the fan died (got very noisy) and i
replaced it but that was the only unreliable part of the server.
-steve
> On 22 Oct 2016, at 22:06, Ste
i append my venti arenas to usb memory sticks - only two so far. i don't store
music or videos on plan9 so compressed de-duplicated data doesn't take up much
space.
the only time i had problems was my own fault, over cooling a disk through my
own paranoia.
> On 26 Oct 2016, at 18:43, Steven St
Hi,
I have upgraded my pi desktop to a 3 which is noticable faster.
I am using Richard's pi image which as usual works perfectly, but for one
wrinkle.
I cannot get the usb serial interfaces we use to work. I have never managed to
get
usb serial adapters to work with the raspberry pi, though nev
hi,
this is interesting.
can you tell me what the gpio file system looks like (pointer to man page?).
also, is the mDNS client the go one discussed recently or a c implementation?
i have never go'ed and have been thinking about writing a upnp renderer for
plan9 for years...
-Steve
> On 2 No
Thanks for the info.
> mount -a '#G' /dev
I think you want
bind -a '#G' /dev
> using large display is frustrating...
FWIW I am happily using 1920x1200x8 on my raspberry pi 3,
and its very snappy.
-Steve
Hi all,
anyone seen some strange TLS issues (when talking to windows boxen).
tlsClient: devtls expected ver=301, saw (len=19232) type=2a ver=204f '*
OK ����'
This is running Richard millers raspberry kernel so no 9front encryption fixes.
maybe my TLS needs to be taught more smarts?
-
The usual process is to use prep first to create a windows etc compatible
partition table with one big partition called plan9. then subdivide that.
see the recipie near the end of the format(1) manpage.
why part does different things in automatic mode I don't know.
-Steve
hi,
once again i need oauth2.
i am thinking of writhing slack and skype messaging clients - i might even
finally do a file system api for chat services in c, and include irc.
anyone looked at adding oauth2 to webs? for all its faults it seems to be
gaining traction.
-Steve
hi
i put together a hudson/jenkins client which,
(because i had the framework to hand) i implemented
as a file system. currently it has been tested against
exactly one jenkins instance.
anyone willing to test against their build servers, i am particularly
interested in a hudson test.
-Steve
Hi,
I am trying to get tls 1.2 working on a labs build of plan9.
What is most infuriating is I am sure I did this a few years ago but I cannot
remember
how (or even if) I got it working.
what I have done is to install the following patches from 9legacy:
libsec-chacha.diff
> Just to be sure. Have you rebuilt libsec as well?
yep.
Wireshark sees TLS 1.2 packets from plan9 so I have that much right...
-Steve
> The libsec-chacha.diff patch is not useful, since it's not used yet.
I suspected as much but thought it wouldn't hurt.
> Does it works when you connect to https://9p.io/?
> This machine have the same patches applied.
yes, this works fine.
I am trying to connect to davmail - an exchange / imap
Sorry, I don't have a 9front so I don't know.
-Steve
I have a single cpu/auth/dns/dhcp/tftp/file server.
and a raspberry pi terminal.
The obvious change would be to add a seperate raspberry pi as an
auth server, booting off its own sdcard (if memory serves,
the auth server needs to be up first).
If I were to do this I would probably make it backup
> I have converted the open source font called Hack to plan 9 font format.
Thats nice, not sure if I will switch, I will try it for a week or so...
I think the sizes are wrong, the 14 point in the hack directory looks close to
9 point in
the plan9 pelm font.
-Steve
Cinap,
I salute you and the good sense you write.
-Steve
> On 19 Nov 2016, at 16:57, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote:
>
> calling into firmware code is a big can of worms because firmware is full
> of bugs and only works with a small set of the major operating systems that
> the firmware auth
Almost all of the original plan9 team work for google now.
some of them work on Go, a language which has shared ancestry with alef and
limbo.
there are not maintainers as such, though some people do maintenance and some
still develop new features and ports.
plan9 is ad hoc.
i still think it'
Hi,
I run a modified labs kernel with a few bits of 9atom to support my atom
Motherboard.
I have added an ssd to the mirrored disks in my plan9 server.
The initialisation of devfs fails without a helpful error message (something I
will sort out)
However the source of the problem seems to be boo
hi all,
well, after a long slog, and a few wrong turns, it is all obvious.
9load reads the partition table and writes the disk config. it reads
into a 2k buffer but it only reads one sector -512 bytes on my disks,
which is not enough for the large number of partitions i have.
the solution is is
kudos for the use of m4.
sadly my o2s went the way of ebay years ago, nice machines though.
-Steve
> On 23 Nov 2016, at 21:30, Jules Merit
> wrote:
>
> I ported doom, after someone Runed plan9. Trying to get 9front Jurassic Park
> on MIPS r12k now.
>
> Also plan9 clearly needs EEG for use
hi,
i haven't tried using a pi as an authority server, i have run one as a disk
less terminal booting off my file server.
i will try this again tonight as i have been meaning to do so,
i will report back later...
-Steve
> On 24 Nov 2016, at 17:48, James A. Robinson wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
>
hi,
not sure what you mean by pipe the output, if you want to save the graph
you need to do that by grabbing the window, there could be things like gifplot
which render the plot command stream into a gif, but it doesn't (yet).
i am pretty sure graph has a "don't clear the screen" option if that
Hi all,
Anyone have some small and neat code (in C) to parse ISO8601 date/time
notation with all its glorious options?
Its not hard to write, but it would be time consuming to test all the varients
so
if anyone has some code, or knows of some in /sys/src that I have missed,
please tell me.
Than
Hi,
I have tried the usb->serial adapters I could find lying around the office.
Using the code you sent me, not the very latest from sources.
The FTDI chips we use in our products work fine
ep13.0 255 csp 0xff vid 0x10c4 did 0xea60 'Silicon Labs' 'CP2102
USB to UART Bridge Controlle
Its not the same problem, but just in case it helps,
adding a second usb ether adapter onto a raspberry pi,
which runs the labs distro not 9front.
I need to add
ether1=type=usb
to cmdline.txt
and then add the following to /cfg/$sysname/termrc
if(! ~ `{cat '#l1/ether1/addr'}
qic? not for years of course.
last time i did so it was using a simbios/tekram scsi card.
i may have a spare of these, i can look if you need one. i have no tape drives
though.
-Steve
> On 31 Jan 2017, at 19:24, Anthony Sorace wrote:
>
> This is a bit of personal archeology, but has anyone
ahh, 1542.
i remember upgrading the firmware in mine to fix reliability issues, UV box and
eprom programmer at the ready.
having said this, i did have to get up 6 hours before i went to bed...
-Steve
> On 31 Jan 2017, at 22:37, Charles Forsyth wrote:
>
> a qic-120 drive or better and the sy
Hi,
I am a sam user who uses subversion (via a substandard OS).
when I do an update I always do 'X/./e' to re-read all files - bit of a
sledgehammer
but at least it stops me getting quite so angry at svn.
-Steve
sadly there doesn't seem to be a way to add users to the labs sources server,
unless somone knows different.
I think the best thing would be to post diffs to this mailing list.
I have some small changes to APE I have been meaning to post, nothing
substantial
mut enough to make porting some tools
i use pi3s with richard miller's package and have had no keyboard or mouse
issues.
keyboards are so cheap now, try another?
-steve
> On 7 Mar 2017, at 06:09, Bakul Shah wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 01:55:49 GMT kraftkl...@memeware.net wrote:
>> Dear,
>>
>> I just put plan9 onto my raspi.
Hi,
I am having to dig through some data files comparing similar results,
I really need a side-by-side compare.
I believe adiff does this for acme, but I am not an acme-ista so I thought
"How hand can it be?".
I wrote the script below, but then I thought "I should be able to do this
without temp
Good grief,
I never do stop learning
I knew the name but I had never really understood what comm does.
Perfect.
Thanks Kurt.
-Steve
possibly.
however it didn't take the plan9 community long to figure out what needed to be
changed. Thus, by definition, it was not too obscure.
-Steve
> On 1 Apr 2017, at 10:46, Alexandru Gheorghe wrote:
>
> That's a weird name for CNAME traversing. Should've been (maybe more
> appropriately)
just to add that these multiple mounts are a function of 9fronts 9fs command.
see https://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front/raw-file/39e9c78542d8/rc/bin/9fs
-Steve
> On 1 Apr 2017, at 10:00, Kurt H Maier wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 08:53:46AM +, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
>> is there a "
could you explain this?
what is 9snuf?
-Steve
> On 15 Apr 2017, at 00:06, Jules Merit
> wrote:
>
> 9snuf faces of death just got updated
>
>> On Apr 14, 2017 3:39 PM, "Adriano Verardo" wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I have a pi3 with normal and wifi eth interfaces under the same stack.
>> Wifi addre
Ah, Mr Shaney lives!
> On 18 Apr 2017, at 05:37, Jules Merit
> wrote:
>
> #cnn #facebook
> Sister Myriam Godwin son
> Kill -9
>
> On Apr 15, 2017 9:06 AM, "Steve Simon" wrote:
>
> could you explain this?
> what is 9snuf?
>
> -Ste
Hi,
I am running richard Miller's Raspberry pi kernel.
I want to update my TLS so I can use modern https.
I have lifted the /sys/src/libsec from 9front, built that
and rebuilt my kernel to use it - devssl.c doesn't seem to have changed.
Unfortunately I still have problems:
hget https://
If it's a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a group
of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry.
http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures
-Steve
> On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis wrote:
>
> Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)?
>
> brucee
>
>> On
i would have expected this to work:
cc '-DFOO=bar' file.c
-Steve
> On 6 May 2017, at 08:43, Sean Callanan wrote:
>
> I can't speak for dexen, but I would love to be able to run
>
> cc -DFOO=bar file.c
>
> or similar commands with button 2 in Acme. What I get instead is
>
> rc: line 2: tok
Hi,
I haven't looked for a while, but http://plan9.bell-labs.com has gone,
and http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/ is broken -
/usr/web/plan9/sources.html has disappeared from the web server.
Is there anyone left at the labs who might be able to fix at least the
web access to sources, it does loo
A few years ago there was some discussion about plan9 git clients.
Is there any solution for using git from plan9, or do I have to use an inferior
OS?
-Steve
>> wrote:
>> David du Colombier (djc) has a rc script. I've used it to keep up with Go.
>>
>> http://9legacy.org/9legacy/tools/git
>>
>> driusan has written one in Go:
>>
>> https://github.com/driusan/dgit
>>
>>
>>>
I am on the Labs distribution rather than 9front but I use plan9 as my mail
server.
>
> 7.7.1
> For the smtpd.conf file the line would read:
> ourdomains domain1.org, domain2.net, domain3.com
>
Yep
> 7.7.2
> For the rewrie, the line would read:
> (ttr|domain1.org|domain2.net|domain3.c
printarenas is a script - it walks through all your arenas at each offset.
You could craft another script that remembers the last arena and offset you
successfully
transferred and only send those after that.
I think there is a pattern where you can save the last arena,offset in the local
fossil.
Interesting.
how did you do the import? did you use vac -q and vac -d previous-score for each
imported day to try and speed things up?
Previously I imported stuff into venti by copying it into fossil first
and then taking a snap. I always wanted a better solution, like being able
to use vac and t
ts while
> checkpointing to venti, or even better, starts a snapshot before it runs out
> of space?
>
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Steve Simon wrote:
>> printarenas is a script - it walks through all your arenas at each offset.
>>
>> You could craft another
r
sorry I meant /sys/src/cmd/venti/words/dumpvacroots of course.
Re: fossil
Fossil must not fill up, however I would say that the dropoff was the lack of
clear
documentation stating this.
Fossil has two modes of operation.
As a stand alone filesystem, not really intented (I believe) as a production
system, more as a replacement for kfs - for laptops or insta
The best solution (imho) for what you want to do is the feature I never added.
It would be great if you could vac up your linux fs and then just cut and past
the
vac score into fossil's console with a command like this:
main import -v 7478923893289ef928932a9888c98b2333 /active/usr/ole/linux
the
Can a venti instance be configured to service to two seperate venti
filesystems? They would need different names and different listner
names but can they share a process / buffer cache?
I guess the alternative is to run two seperate instances.
-Steve
y
> * for just one venti file, that itself contains the expected
> * three directory entries. Sigh.
> */
> VacFile*
> _vacfileroot(VacFs *fs, VtFile *r)
>
> Ole-Hj
>
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Steve Simon wrote:
>> The best solution (imho) for what y
tly speaking, isn't venti just content-addressable block storage, not a
> file system? Anyway, I'm curious to know what you are going to use this for.
>
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Steve Simon wrote:
>> Can a venti instance be configured to service to two sepera
I don't think there is any difference between vac and what fossil uses,
just where it appears in the hierarchy (though maybe I am wrong).
Fossil adds a fixed upper layer of hierarchy
active
dump
snap
Anyone built drawterm on osx recently.
On High Serria I get:
screen.c:9:10: fatal error: 'QuickTime/QuickTime.h' file not found
#include // for full screen
Thanks,
-Steve
mmm, not sure i agree.
i would be very happy to see a modern browser on plan9, though
i would not want anyone to spend a lot of time supporting one.
a few years ago cinap got opera and firefox to run as linux binaries under
linuxemu. i spent some time tweaking that code to run more recent releas
Russ had a set of diffs to kfs to make it an encrypted filesystem...
-Steve
Hi,
I haven't tried for a few weeks but sources.cs.bell-labs.com
has gone (from DNS), I don't know about the server behind it
as I never kept a record of the IP address.
has the labs server gone for good? (RIP).
-Steve
I found the old addresses here:
https://dnshistory.org
plan9.bell-labs.com was 204.178.31.16
and sources.cs.bell-labs.com was 204.178.31.32
Both gone too, its not just DNS.
I think it has fallen off its perch,
it is are pine-ing for the fjords,
it is an ex OS research group.
-Steve
i still run a plan9 based mail server too, and have dome a lot to mitigate the
amounts of spam and bots trying to brute force my email auth.
i will post details later but plan9 sill does good service as a mail relay.
-Steve
> On 13 Jan 2018, at 23:30, G B wrote:
>
> Besides my mail receivin
Hi,
I am in a rather strange situation where I want to share a plan9 printer to
windows.
This much I have been able to do. The difficulty is the printer is on a
different physical
network (/net.alt) and the plan9 BSD LPR daemon runs as none, and so cannot
bind/mount
the filesystems to allow it
in early versions of plan9 the tcp/ip stack in Streams, inherited (I assume)
from V10.
This turned out not to be as clean nor as efficent as hoped and this was dropped
for a more traditional implementation in later releases. Maybe the bad
experiences
of poor performance informed the decision for
i would say ssd is an excellent chiice for venti, the argument is less clear
for fossil which us much more like a traditional filesystem.
fossil and venti do not have the performance if a modern filesystem bur an ssd
can make them fast enough for most use (i dont stream movies from my plan9
sys
More the lidea of reading from the ssd first.
The way fs(4) driver works is you order your drives
with the first written at one end of the queue and first read at the other.
I assume the read rate and rotational latency of an ssd should
be better than hdd so I get the best performace.
I should ad
i bought one (well, my employer bought me one) as a desktop machine. i don’t
know where i could buy a headless pc or a used laptop for £30.
i also have drivers for the hardware and an install process that takes 10 mins
(copy the image to an sd card).
they are not perfect, but a good comprise fo
hi,
i have 1st, 2nd, and 3rd ed floppies, a bigger problem will be to find a floppy
drive...
i will try and generate some images.
-Steve
> On 5 Feb 2018, at 04:24, Benjamin Huntsman
> wrote:
>
> Bizarre and random question, but anyone still have any of the original 3rd
> Edition floppy
x and will gladly send to you on my own dime without any
> strings attached.
> -joe
>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:20 AM, Steve Simon wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> i have 1st, 2nd, and 3rd ed floppies, a bigger problem will be to find a
>> floppy drive...
&
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rob’s sam editor for X11 circa 1993 was a revelation for me.
beautifully written and trivial to port to a dozen different platforms. a
salutatory lesson to all.
autotools is horrid, though, fgb’s config script can often get foreign stuff to
build. if you want to import code rather than just po
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