Re: [9fans] new toy - gmap

2009-03-13 Thread LiteStar numnums
The committee is forming a subcommittee to finalize committee membership, which will then create a standard with which you can put things on top of other things. The committee will be made up of thing-putters who each have their own implementation, and we'll leave a good portion of the details "imp

Re: [9fans] new toy - gmap

2009-03-13 Thread LiteStar numnums
The project will still go down as one of bitter in fighting, name calling, ego stroking, chaos wrapped up in a book you need to purchase for $250 USD (plus tax & shipping) in order to put things... On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:17 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:11 PM, David Leimb

Re: [9fans] what features would you like in a shell?

2009-04-02 Thread LiteStar numnums
If you have to go to this level, wouldn't it be better to have a language for this? You probably wouldn't want this interactively, prototyping aside. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:41 PM, John Stalker wrote: > > so I'm writing to get your opinions. maybe there are thing that people > > implement thems

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread LiteStar numnums
what, no SOAP? Not enterprise ready. On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:43 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to > specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to > receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent be

Re: [9fans] An excerpt from Syllable's description

2009-08-03 Thread LiteStar numnums
They also have REBOL as a scripting language... It's an interesting project, forked from an interesting project (Atheos), but Gospodin Floren is correct: they have exactly the same problems with Syllable as 9fans have with Plan9, namely drivers & user expectations. Haiku, ReactOS, Hurd, &c &c hav

Re: [9fans] The first annual "Hello, World" challenge

2009-08-18 Thread LiteStar numnums
What, no HQ9+? H Having "Hello, world!" as a semantic & syntactic element in the language serves as the ridiculous part... On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Abhishek Kulkarni wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:26 AM, ron minnich wrote: > >> See this: http://www.wxwidgets.org/docs/tutorials

Re: [9fans] scheme plan 9

2009-09-02 Thread LiteStar numnums
I use chibi at work; s'not bad considering the size, & certainly better than tinyscheme. I currently use a custom dialect for new stuff, but the old is either Chibi or Gauche. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:13 AM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Iruata Souza wrote: > >> O

Re: [9fans] lisp again.

2009-09-07 Thread LiteStar numnums
Well, lisp != common lisp aside, I wouldn't mind a native CL system. I haven't looked at the SBCL backend in quite sometime, but, assuming it's not terribly insane, that would be a decent route. Most CL work that isn't specific to one of the proprietary systems (Allegro, LispWorks, &c.) is written

Re: [9fans] lisp again.

2009-09-07 Thread LiteStar numnums
Clozure might be enough as well; it's C, but I've no idea how many POSIXisms are in the source... On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Fernan Bolando wrote: > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, John Floren wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM, LiteStar numnums > wrote: >

Re: [9fans] lisp again.

2009-09-07 Thread LiteStar numnums
I was going to use SBCL to cross compile SBCL for Plan9. On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:54 AM, John Floren wrote: > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM, LiteStar numnums > wrote: > > Well, lisp != common lisp aside, I wouldn't mind a native CL system. I > > haven't looked

Re: [9fans] New book (Not entirely OT)

2009-09-16 Thread LiteStar numnums
LtU has an overview, for those interested: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3613 On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Andrew Simmons wrote: > It's probably a bit hypocriticalist of me to post anything off-topic > at this point, but why break the habits of a lifetime? > > Some people here might en

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-17 Thread LiteStar numnums
Like shuffle db (i.e. no iTunes). On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Andrew Simmons wrote: > >> we'd have been much better off if Apple had instead spent the > >> time and effort writing a decent iTunes > > And no doubt we'd have been much better off if Apple had instead spent the > time and effor

Re: [9fans] Go

2009-11-12 Thread LiteStar numnums
Oberon had POINTER TO, and acted in what you might expect from a TurboPascal. Also, wrt pointers, the original Primos was written in Fortran IV, although it was later moved to the PL/I dialect PL/P. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:13 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > Because it is constantly compared wit

Re: [9fans] 9p resource sharing [was: Scanners]

2010-01-07 Thread LiteStar numnums
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Patrick Kelly wrote: > On Jan 5, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > * Jorden Mauro wrote: >> >> The coffee pot runs windows and there is a virus that causes Coffee >>> Denial of Service on it. >>> >> >> That, of course, would be the very most worstcase

Re: [9fans] why not Lvx for Plan 9?

2008-07-08 Thread LiteStar numnums
x: proc options(main); put skip list('What's Wrong with PR1ME?'); put skip; end x; /* sorry, couldn't resist */ I mean, you make it sound like the wonderful combination of Fortran IV, PL/I (PL/1G, PL/P & SPL), Pascal & BASIC (BASICV too) weren't enough! Sheesh, this is perfectly resonable: OK, pl

Re: [9fans] yes, comcast really *does* suck

2008-11-08 Thread LiteStar numnums
Actually, there is a decent amount of noise over switching back to UUCP or the like to avoid the types of restrictions governments & corporations are attempting to put on the 'net. Can't wait. :| On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you have to love comca

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-08 Thread LiteStar numnums
Well they took Cyclone & made Vault C, so they might as well go along with Inferno/Plan9 too. Interestingly enough, Singularity is written in Sing#, yet another MS-specific language. ugh. I think F# is the only thing to have recently escaped MSR (well, besides LINQ, although they killed Comega).

Re: [9fans] Very Off-Topic: Anybody here reads Sci-Fi? :)

2008-12-03 Thread LiteStar numnums
"Electric Sheep" by John Scalzi is a very humorous play on Dick's wonderful "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep". Anathem is good, but Snow Crash & Diamond Age equally as good, & have faster pacing. "The Hostile Takeover Trilogy", everything written by William Gibson, "The Electric Church", Asimov

Re: [9fans] Les Misérables

2009-01-18 Thread LiteStar numnums
Or have a native Limbo compiler; I've been itching for that for some time, but I've much else on my hands. One day when free... On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 9:28 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > > I seem to remember Mjl, the author if the inferno ircfs, wrote an > > ircfs for Plan 9 ages ago. Still, s

Re: [9fans] Les Misérables

2009-01-18 Thread LiteStar numnums
Uh, considering that ircfs is for Inferno (via Limbo), having a Limbo compiler to native Plan9 would be a potential solution, assuming the run time could be kept the same. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > >Or have a native Limbo compiler; I've been itching for that for so

Re: [9fans] Les Misérables

2009-01-18 Thread LiteStar numnums
Well, actually, I was thinking of something along the lines of Lisaac: "dynamic" modules are statically compiled ala object files, & the run time handles issues between Plan9 & Inferno. Sys->load & the like would not be dynamic, but would work as expected. Hell, it could even just be a .Net/perl2ex

Re: [9fans] Les Misérables

2009-01-18 Thread LiteStar numnums
Inline On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:52 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > Well, actually, I was thinking of something along the lines of Lisaac: > > "dynamic" modules are statically compiled ala object files, & the run > time > > handles issues between Plan9 & Inferno. Sys->load & the like would not be >

[9fans] lsub down?

2020-08-21 Thread LiteStar numnums
Is lsub down or permanently gone? I was looking for some of the CLive papers to show a friend, and the site has sorta disappeared from the internet. -- And in the "Only Prolog programmers will find this funny" department: Q: How many Prolog programmers does it take to change a lightbulb? A: No.

Re: [9fans] lsub down?

2020-08-21 Thread LiteStar numnums
I have that starred, but that's perfect, thank you Rodrigo! On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 7:31 AM Rodrigo G. López wrote: > github.com/fjballest/clive > > that might be of help while lsub.org is down. > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 1:09 PM LiteStar numnums wrote: > >> Is lsu

Re: [9fans] utf-8 on 9fans.net/archive

2010-06-22 Thread LiteStar numnums
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:00 PM, EBo wrote: > > confused boxes > > emdashes turned into mud > > double conversion? > > > > http://9fans.net/archive/2010/06/187 > > should I read this as poetry or a question? > > EBo -- > > > The haiku is short a syllable on the first line, unless you prono

Re: [9fans] xml

2010-06-30 Thread LiteStar numnums
> To add to the madness you can write XML files that translate XML files to > other files (possibly other XML files) in an XML defined language called > XSLT. XSLT is a bit like writing in a functional programming language with > the worst syntax possible :-). > > The reason I say "worst syntax po

Re: [9fans] xml

2010-06-30 Thread LiteStar numnums
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: > On Jun 30, 2010, at 2:43 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > as long as you don't care about the (observed) 100:1 ratio of XML glop > to data in, e.g., the Python XMLRPC stuff, it's great. Yep, I observed > that ratio when Xen made the cut to XML-