[9fans] IWP92009-Bondi

2009-03-12 Thread Bruce Ellis
Please be advised that because of a change in weather the workshop will now start at 5:30am for a surf at south bondi. All delegates are expected not to be eaten by sharks. brucee

Re: [9fans] new toy - gmap

2009-03-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
That seems to be endemic. People putting things on top of other things. Which reminds me that people aren't wearing enough hats! brucee On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Akshat Kumar wrote: > I just wanted to see it in a box with blue borders amidst other multi-colored > boxes with blue borders,

Re: [9fans] new toy - gmap

2009-03-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
thing putter attributes... > > Sadly, I believe I've worked on such projects. > >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:59 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Bruce Ellis >>> wrote: >>> > That seems to be endemic.

Re: [9fans] new toy - gmap

2009-03-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
t;> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:59 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Bruce Ellis >>> wrote: >>> > That seems to be endemic. People putting things on top of other >>> > things. Which reminds me that people aren't

Re: [9fans] new toy - gmap

2009-03-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
t; > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:17 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:11 PM, David Leimbach wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:59 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Bruce

Re: [9fans] new toy - gmap

2009-03-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
Sorry. Team Glenda was out putting things on other things. There is Bondi senior woman who is very happy with her new TV. I have no idea why it has 2 usb connectors and a 100Base connection - but Cinap can fix a coax without a crimper. Life goes on. brucee On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:22 AM, erik

[9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-03-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are needed. Feel free to join the Casella group. -- Forwarded message -- From: brucee Date: Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM Subject: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge To: Casella There are a few of these floatin

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-03-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
gt; forth than I have so far (well almost). > Dave > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: >> >> There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth experience are needed. >> >> Feel free to join the Casella group. >> >> -- Forwa

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-03-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
enthusiasts. brucee On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:47 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > >> The chip is a totally insane challenge. But looks like a lot of fun >> and functionality. > > > What do you say to a linuxemu as the fir

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-03-19 Thread Bruce Ellis
Please share your experience. http://groups.google.com/group/casella brucee On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky wrote: > I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year. > We are testing it for a signal processing. > > I can confirm it is a wonderful chip. > Bu

[9fans] GSOC proposal

2009-03-27 Thread Bruce Ellis
Just a suggestion, A good forth system using acme, probably based on fgb's 4th. The goal is to conquer the Seaforth chip. I know the dev kit is US$500 but their compiler and simulator, written in forth, doesn't need hardware. And at least two 9fans have a kit. brucee

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New

2009-03-30 Thread Bruce Ellis
I disagree. It is a chore going thru the religion and it ends up not having any relevance to the chip. brucee On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Icarus Sparry wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:43:34 +0000, Bruce Ellis wrote: > >> There is new fun in Casella land. 9fans with Forth ex

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-06 Thread Bruce Ellis
> SeaForth is dead already > > http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm > > http://colorforth.com/S40.htm > > > Bruce Ellis wrote: >> >> Please share your experience. >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/casella >> >> brucee >> >> On

Re: [9fans] security questions

2009-04-16 Thread Bruce Ellis
Not productive huh? That why not even Tiger reads the list anymore. But I read mail from you. brucee On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:48 PM, wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Devon H. O'Dell >> wrote: >>> 2009/4/16 erik quanstrom : On Thu Apr 16 22:18:35 EDT 2009, devon.od...@gmail.co

Re: [9fans] security questions

2009-04-16 Thread Bruce Ellis
As a another data point I'll offer IW9P2009-Bondi - involved a lot of beer and beach/camping but we wrote a shit-load of code. And it was fun. Not much sleep. Had to eat too but time sharing coding and cooking went well. brucee On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:52 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: >> 5. No

Re: [9fans] Inferno wiki

2009-06-05 Thread Bruce Ellis
You beat me to it! I just bought a large number of domains including oz-inferno.com - they are all hosted but I have no time to document at the moment. Copies are available of the t-shirts from IWP9-2009-Bondi, tho I have no idea how to distribute them. Cinap won the prize for his brett whitely se

Re: [9fans] new usb stack and implicit timeouts

2009-07-19 Thread Bruce Ellis
The only justification I can see is to disconnect to stuff that's been unplugged or misbehaves. In your case that's not true. brucee On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 5:16 PM, wrote: > from the manpage: > >          For control, bulk, and isochronous transfers, there is an >          implicit timeout per

Re: [9fans] Someone let the domain go

2009-07-26 Thread Bruce Ellis
the crack support team were busy brucee . On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, wrote: > Yes, apparently as far back as March/April of 2001. > > don't ask me why I know > ak

Re: [9fans] yet another installation guide

2009-08-11 Thread Bruce Ellis
Cinap and Brucee's guide ... Arrive back home to find a fried Auth server. Curse. A standard here, due to HST, is four (and only four) F*cks, in quick succesion, getting louder and higher in pitch. Drag the bastard into the workshop and completely butcher it and a standby clunker and rebuild it.

Re: [9fans] yet another installation guide

2009-08-11 Thread Bruce Ellis
there are photos ... don't know where. it was lucky that it was warmish winter night. built a nice fire and slept for a few hours around it in t-shirt, shorts, sandals. we did have my travel lapdog but it was obvious that coffee was in order ... and no work in a national park! brucee On Wed, Au

Re: [9fans] 8c vlong bug

2009-08-31 Thread Bruce Ellis
if it's my fault i'll fix it. it did screw up mod in a subtle way but that's been fixed. brucee On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:47 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > temporarly out of time on this one.  it appears > from the assembly output that 8c multiplies by > 0 and not 1 when computing z a second time. >

Re: [9fans] 8c vlong bug

2009-08-31 Thread Bruce Ellis
gt; not quite that simple. > it's a register allocation > (really register management) bug. > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: >> if it's my fault i'll fix it. it did screw up mod in a subtle way but >> that's been fixed. > > it looks

Re: [9fans] iwp9-bondi

2009-09-30 Thread Bruce Ellis
yes, i will post a link when i tidy it up. brucee On 9/30/09, Jacob Todd wrote: > Are any of the presentations that were at iwp9 Bondi available anywhere? > I can't find anything on it other than what's on iwp9.cat-v.org and this > list. > > -- > Jake Todd > // If it isn't broke, tweak it! > >

[9fans] curiosity ...

2009-10-30 Thread Bruce Ellis
try this ... #include #include void main(void) { memmove(nil, nil, 100); print("hello squid boy\n"); } who would have thunk it? brucee

Re: [9fans] curiosity ...

2009-10-31 Thread Bruce Ellis
well it is halloween. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Graham Gallagher wrote: > i didn't think squid boy had a chance > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: >> try this ... >> >> #include >> #include >> >> void

Re: [9fans] Pictures from IWP9?

2009-11-02 Thread Bruce Ellis
The Devil Went Down To Georgia? brucee On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:03 PM, roger peppe wrote: >> >> PS. i'd like to have a glance at the videos of the presentations >> too - i was given to believe that they might be available after the >>

[9fans] Nice toy

2009-11-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
Any one tried a Asus Eee PC T91? I claim it is the best outta the box $500 computer available (this week anyway). I'm scribbling on it as I speak. Touch/Swivel/Tablet screen, All the usual stuff and gps and tv tuner and ... lotsa stuff I haven't played with. I can't keep up with the eee port. Tota

Re: [9fans] bio(2) and ORDWR

2009-11-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
I believe in those Old Endearing Charms. Contact me off list and I'll explain it. brucee On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:12 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Fri Nov 13 20:13:20 EST 2009, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: >> bio(2) doesn't support files opened for read+write;  Looking >> at the implementation I

Re: [9fans] MIPS LSB compiler

2009-11-15 Thread Bruce Ellis
Good work indeed, Ron. All those bits and they all fit together! I guess it also solves the Fortran etc. for Plan9 issue. brucee On 11/16/09, ron minnich wrote: > On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Paul Lalonde wrote: > > I'd be very interested in an ELF based cross-compilation to plan9. I have

Re: [9fans] MIPS LSB compiler

2009-11-16 Thread Bruce Ellis
yep, molto bene. On 11/16/09, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > Anyway all that code is available. > > What I want is the knowledge behind this code, it is a huge amount of > information that gets distilled into that code :-( > > ++L > > >

Re: [9fans] 9P libraries for Go

2009-11-22 Thread Bruce Ellis
superb! the NIOS SOC has gcc and now go ,,, and 9p. brucee On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Latchesar Ionkov wrote: > Hi, > > Andrey Mirtchovski and I wrote 9P server and client libraries/packages for Go. > > The hg repository with the code is available at > http://bitbucket.org/f2f/go9p/. > >

Re: [9fans] grëp (rhymes with creep) and cptmp

2009-11-29 Thread Bruce Ellis
i like the approach. back in basser computational linguistics days frank was indexing a greek verb dictionary. to sort the keys - he used tr | sort | tr. i'm glad you didn't screw with grep. it's brilliant but the implementation is not easily understood. i was in the room at the time, so i have a

Re: [9fans] 10ed f77 manpage

2009-12-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
I have a paper copy which i could scan if you can't get the bytes. brucee On 12/14/09, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote: > Anybody have a 10th Edition f77 manpage they could email me?

Re: [9fans] 10ed f77 manpage

2009-12-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
It's the same. On 12/14/09, Charles Forsyth wrote: > http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/1/f77 > > i'd be surprised if subsequently it had changed much. > >

Re: [9fans] quote of the day

2009-12-25 Thread Bruce Ellis
it doesn't work, it doesn't have to, and it's secret! perfect documentation for shitware. brucee On 12/26/09, Jamie Gavahan wrote: > On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 03:43, erik quanstrom wrote: > > "Do not spend too much time trying to figure out why this math works. > > The basis for the computation

Re: [9fans] quote of the day

2009-12-25 Thread Bruce Ellis
answer in one. On 12/26/09, Akshat Kumar wrote: > So... mm... > > Where's the working AMD 64 port again? > > > oh, ok > ak > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > > it doesn't work, it doesn't have to, and it's secret! > > > > perfect documentation for shitware. > > > > brucee > > > >

Re: [9fans] breadth first walking

2010-01-03 Thread Bruce Ellis
yep, use a scape tree. ozi is full of them. no hash tables here, except for my coffee table. brucee On 1/4/10, Tim Newsham wrote: > someone mentioned in the thread that it would be nice to be able > to walk directory trees in breadth-first manner: > http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/x/9/walk.c >

Re: [9fans] breadth first walking

2010-01-04 Thread Bruce Ellis
you were talking and not listening. On 1/4/10, roger peppe wrote: > what's a scape tree? > > 2010/1/4 Bruce Ellis : > > yep, use a scape tree. ozi is full of them. no hash tables here, > > except for my coffee table. > > > > brucee > > > > On 1/4

Re: [9fans] vms

2010-01-08 Thread Bruce Ellis
The digital group was in Adelaide. Shand worked for them and Mudge was the honcho. Does that help? I'm still in contact with Shand - he visited last month. I'll give it a try. brucee On 1/8/10, Jeff Sickel wrote: > No, I'm not suggesting VAX/VMS on this channel:: > >Though I really enjo

Re: [9fans] libthread API

2010-01-08 Thread Bruce Ellis
ahh my wise, cold, east german friend. good answer and fluffy agrees. brucee On 1/9/10, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: > > Thanks, now I understand. The main question was why threadcreate asks > > for function pointer and can't just leave me in my function like rfork. > > So it is because we should

Re: [9fans] iwp9-bondi

2010-01-16 Thread Bruce Ellis
i'm swamped with work. i've distanced myself from IWP9 until erikq shuts up. i should at least publish the movie. the talks are far too controversial for 9fans. brucee On 1/15/10, Jacob Todd wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 05:48:24PM +1000, Bruce Ellis wrote: > > yes, i wi

Re: [9fans] iwp9-bondi

2010-01-19 Thread Bruce Ellis
Prince William visited the sunshine club today. I told you the beer was good. Catch it on oz news, channel 7, 9, or 70, 90, for HD. It's goofy. brucee On 1/16/10, Bruce Ellis wrote: > i'm swamped with work. i've distanced myself from IWP9 until erikq shuts up. > > i sho

Re: [9fans] iwp9-bondi

2010-01-19 Thread Bruce Ellis
el 7 or 9 anyway. > Tell me more about that beer? > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > > Prince William visited the sunshine club today. I told you the beer was > > good. > > > > Catch it on oz news, channel 7, 9, or 70, 90, for HD. It'

Re: [9fans] iwp9-bondi

2010-01-20 Thread Bruce Ellis
i'd do that for a dollar. On 1/20/10, Rob Pike wrote: > my father danced with his great aunt. > > -rob > >

Re: [9fans] iwp9-bondi

2010-01-21 Thread Bruce Ellis
meggie to you. On 1/21/10, Rob Pike wrote: > margaret > > -rob > >

Re: [9fans] too fast key repeat in pcpae 2cpu mode

2014-04-09 Thread Bruce Ellis
Fixed! On 09/04/2014 1:13 PM, wrote: > > so basically the timing loop is messed up. if you could run the amd64 > > kernel on this machine, this will not happen. > > Before I do this, I tried the 'sources' pc kernel for 2 cpu. > It recognizes 2 cpus and has no problem. > > Kenji > > >

Re: [9fans] other kernel bug

2014-06-05 Thread Bruce Ellis
Could this solve the 'why is swap so crappy?' On 05/06/2014 11:58 AM, wrote: > correct. > > -- > cinap > >

Re: [9fans] MIPS64

2014-09-05 Thread Bruce Ellis
Interesting. I did 4c last century (for the Inferno PS2 port). Must have not made it into the distrib. brucee On 06/09/2014 2:57 PM, "cherry" wrote: > Hello 9Fans, > > I would like to share that mips64 support of Plan 9 is currently > available. The compiler and the libraries are at > https://bi

Re: [9fans] MIPS64

2014-09-06 Thread Bruce Ellis
I stand corrected. brucee On 6 September 2014 17:20, Shane Morris wrote: > Last millennia, don't you mean? ^.^ > > Sorry, couldn't resist. If I had known about Inferno when I still had my > PS2 Linux Kit working... =( > > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Bruce

Re: [9fans] MIPS64

2014-09-06 Thread Bruce Ellis
I started with the linux kit and had Inferno working in two days. The linux kit is funny. Its is so slow and stupid. But handy for putting an Inferno image on a cartridge. brucee On 7 September 2014 04:11, Shane Morris wrote: > Very true! > > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:49 AM, wrote: > >> > I

Re: [9fans] p9p: Virtual terminal fileserver

2014-10-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
To be honest I've wondered about this for a while. Here's my quandry... I use Vmware for Ubuntu 14 LTS. First I start a dumbarse terminal and do: factotum& plumber& sam&9term& This gives me something I can work with. But when I run venti, then fossil - I get no fossilcons in $ns. Fossil works

Re: [9fans] kencc benchmark vs gcc

2014-10-20 Thread Bruce Ellis
Then again if I'm writing a multi-threaded program then go blows gcc out of the water. brucee On 18/10/2014 8:18 AM, "Anthony Sorace" wrote: > There have been many over the years (I think the original papers present > something), but I've not seen anything current enough to be useful. The > very

Re: [9fans] Do Plan9Port's lib9 and libbio work on Windows?

2014-11-29 Thread Bruce Ellis
I agree. I have never seen Inferno built with ming. brucee On 30 November 2014 at 12:31, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > On 29 November 2014 at 03:31, Ryan wrote: > >> >> Of course; VS can barely compile anything useful. > > > The version of lib9 and libbio in Inferno will compile with the free MS

Re: [9fans] Debian bug 737206 - rc shell uses insecurely /tmp

2014-12-04 Thread Bruce Ellis
Don't these people have better things to do than finding non-bugs in systems they don't understand? brucee On 5 December 2014 at 13:33, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Stéphane Aulery wrote: > >> discovered that rc >>creates temporary files in an insecure way: >

Re: [9fans] Debian bug 737206 - rc shell uses insecurely /tmp

2014-12-05 Thread Bruce Ellis
Well I hope he has fun fixing a sandwich. Your words ... "because Debian people are not very good at doing things correctly". On 5 December 2014 at 15:14, Kurt H Maier wrote: > Quoting Bruce Ellis : > > Don't these people have better things to do than finding non-bugs

Re: [9fans] Debian bug 737206 - rc shell uses insecurely /tmp

2014-12-06 Thread Bruce Ellis
As in "I have ties older than your /tmp". On 7 December 2014 at 05:29, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:22 AM, wrote: > >> 40 years on, you'd think someone would deal with it. > > > The point I was trying to make is that it was realised early on (eg, when > time-sharing at un

Re: [9fans] plan9 on windows

2015-06-09 Thread Bruce Ellis
https://bitbucket.org/mtrS/pf9 On 10 June 2015 at 01:57, David Pick wrote: > On 09/06/15 16:52, Steve Simon wrote: > > > Its looking like I may be sintting in fronto of windows for a while > > > > Anyone suggest a version of sam, B, and 9term which works on win64? > > > > I don't think I need an

Re: [9fans] Frogs?

2015-10-06 Thread Bruce Ellis
As an historical note the space character was once a frog. Rob told me that he removed it from isfrog just to see if this broke anything. It didn't. brucee On 7 October 2015 at 02:25, Kare Nuorteva wrote: > > Thanks to all for very informative replies! :) > > > Cheers, > Kare > >

Re: [9fans] Undefined Behaviour in C

2015-11-26 Thread Bruce Ellis
Simple data share in Inferno. Define a struct with a single byte in it. Now with b == nil throw in a b.data = 42. Visible channel to every process. This requires 0xF zillion to be writeable. On 26 November 2015 at 22:22, Brantley Coile wrote: > Hi Bakul. Long time since our Bay Area plan 9 ha

[9fans] utf-8

2016-02-06 Thread Bruce Ellis
Not to burst a balloon but check out variable length ints in the Midi File Format for utf-8 in the early 80s. brucee

Re: [9fans] utf-8

2016-02-07 Thread Bruce Ellis
Yes. But the midi version is utf-8. brucee On 7 February 2016 at 16:42, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > but following that line of reasoning, aren't they all specialized versions > of Huffman encoding? > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 6:04 PM Bruce Ellis wrote: > >> Not to

Re: [9fans] bug in exportfs

2016-02-14 Thread Bruce Ellis
an alternative is just to have an exclude file listing files/directories that cannot be read or walked to. brucee On 15 February 2016 at 12:05, arisawa wrote: > Hello, > > > 2016/02/15 7:57、Charles Forsyth のメール: > > > > > > On 14 February 2016 at 16:38, wrote: > > i could imagine the filterin

[9fans] IPV6

2017-04-01 Thread Bruce Ellis
Does anyone know what IPV6 addresses like fec0:0:0:%1 mean and how to make a real (plan9) IPV6 address from them. Regards. brucee

Re: [9fans] IPV6

2017-04-01 Thread Bruce Ellis
It doesn't work if I ignore it. ip(2) doesn't mention '%' Regards, brucee On 1 April 2017 at 20:46, Ori Bernstein wrote: > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 08:36:55PM +1100, Bruce Ellis wrote: > > Does anyone know what IPV6 addresses like fec0:0:0:%1 mean and how to

Re: [9fans] IPV6

2017-04-01 Thread Bruce Ellis
A shitshow is an apt description. I searched hard for an answer to my question. Regards, brucee On 1 April 2017 at 21:06, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 02:46:53AM -0700, Ori Bernstein wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 08:36:55PM +1100, Bruce Ellis wrote: > >

[9fans] ps bug

2017-04-10 Thread Bruce Ellis
using plan9ports' "ps -e" does not print all processes. dirread /proc fun I guess. brucee

Re: [9fans] ps bug

2017-04-11 Thread Bruce Ellis
Doesn't help. brucee On 11 April 2017 at 17:21, Sergey Zhilkin wrote: > Seems ps (shell script from hell) uses plan9port sort. And coreutils sort > do not undarstand +1 parameter. > > Try to place plan9port path before any other. > > 2017-04-11 9:54 GMT+03:00 B

[9fans] Blit

2017-04-26 Thread Bruce Ellis
For those interested in the Blit and other stuff from the labs, particularly if you are in the Seattle area, you might like to contact s...@sdf.lonestar.org who is the Associated Curator of the Communications Museum. He gave me a tour and I introduced him to games/crabs. Big old telephone exchange

Re: [9fans] Blit

2017-04-26 Thread Bruce Ellis
same guy has done some amazing restoration of old and exotic > computers. > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:57 PM Bruce Ellis wrote: > >> For those interested in the Blit and other stuff from the labs, >> particularly if you are in the Seattle area, you might like to

Re: [9fans] Blit

2017-04-27 Thread Bruce Ellis
baud modem? brucee On 27 April 2017 at 22:37, Rob Pike wrote: > Total coincidence: I played on a 5620 yesterday, connected to a 3B2 > running System V. Used jim for the first time since 1985. > > -rob > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Bruce Ellis > wrote: > >&

Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

2017-05-02 Thread Bruce Ellis
Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)? brucee On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee wrote: > Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? > > brucee >

Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

2017-05-02 Thread Bruce Ellis
Specifically html. brucee On 2 May 2017 at 19:29, Steve Simon wrote: > > If it's a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a > group of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry. > > http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures > > -Steve > > > O

Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

2017-05-04 Thread Bruce Ellis
I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good solution". There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to postprocess troff output. brucee On 2 May 2017 at 19:37, Bruce El

Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

2017-05-04 Thread Bruce Ellis
On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis > wrote: > > > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good > > solution". > > > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. > > > > For the latest

Re: [9fans] Reimplementing Plan 9 in Go (Was: Re: [9front] bio io functions)

2017-05-05 Thread Bruce Ellis
I agree. Thank you Google translate. brucee On 6 May 2017 at 11:25, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > آقای Mark V. Shaney شما ما را خسته کردید. > > On Fri, May 5, 2017, 4:51 PM Jules Merit gmail.com> wrote: > >> May I suggest "pxemain"? >> Grow the runtime. 'size /bin/false' >> >> On May 5, 2017 6:28

Re: [9fans] equality sign in Rc

2017-05-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
Well fix it! Can't be too hard. brucee On 14 May 2017 at 02:53, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > On 13 May 2017 at 15:21, trebol wrote: > >> No with hyphenation, my friend! > > > ahh! that's a little more specific. I usually switch it off so I wouldn't > have noticed. >

[9fans] cheap, small platform

2017-07-11 Thread Bruce Ellis
Sapphire LX210 4x4 board

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Bruce Ellis
I concur and offer the great venti challenge. I am willing to personally give $10,000 to the person who experiences the first venti collision. (I know it's not a million but call me cheap.) The rules are simple. To enroll in the contest send $10 to charity and send me a copy of the receipt. First

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Bruce Ellis
, Mar 11, 2008 at 5:31 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I concur and offer the great venti challenge. > > > > I am willing to personally give $10,000 to the perso

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Bruce Ellis
It's good to see that nobody is passionate enough to put up $10. brucee On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:10 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > erik quanstrom wrote: > > > > > that's cause it's 2^80 not 2^60. did i mistype? > > > > Thank goodness! Now I can sleep... > > > > -- > > Wes K

Re: [9fans] abaco @ plan9port [WAS: Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?]

2008-03-14 Thread Bruce Ellis
is there anything that breaks if we take an adhoc approach to ignoring standards? who needs URLs anyway if you are too lazy for them. you are not too lazy to complain. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:08 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hola, > > > > "http://9fans.net"; is an URL, "9fan

Re: [9fans] ARM compiler

2008-03-17 Thread Bruce Ellis
rtfc(1) is on the rtfm(1) page. grep of /sys/src/cmd/5c/*.c may have been enough. brucee On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Rob Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Spoilsport. > > -rob > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Richard Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > speaking of arm: > > > > >

Re: [9fans] ARM compiler

2008-03-17 Thread Bruce Ellis
information was precise. ignore it. brucee On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > rtfc(1) is on the rtfm(1) page. > > > > grep of /sys/src/cmd/5c/*.c may have been enough. > > > > brucee > > despite your usual lack of information your jab is stale > and obv

Re: [9fans] lies, damn lies and kloc.

2008-03-19 Thread Bruce Ellis
is this a cry for help or have you looked at any of the code? having fun yet? brucee On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:26 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > according the the reference below, c# has more types (39509) > than 8c+8l has lines of code: > >; wc -l /sys/src/cmd/^(cc 8c 8

Re: [9fans] EWOULDBLOCK in APE

2008-03-20 Thread Bruce Ellis
well to be honest i did use up more than my share of wood blocks ... but my fire was raging. in the early 80s when a thousand new errnos were introduced it was a cocktail afternoon at basser, and i think it was andrew taylor who looked at ENAMELON and exclaimed "And A Melon?" ... so i made melon da

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Bruce Ellis
Who has nothing better to do at school? It's supposed to be fun! brucee On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who needs OpenOffice.org Write when you have troff? > > Who needs OpenOffice.org Calc when you have CSV and awk? > > Who needs OpenOffice.org Imp

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Bruce Ellis
well the gcc list is still waiting for you ... maybe it was volatile. brucee On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Robert William Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Iruata Souza wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I don't care if you agree wi

Re: [9fans] 9P support for MC

2008-03-26 Thread Bruce Ellis
no, the horror ...dhog had this habit of sneaking into my office when the PS2 was running a horseshit linux cut up (but it was good enough to copy in an inferno boot image). he'd run mc on it which could only lead to sillier pranks. brucee On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Iruata Souza <[EMAIL PR

Re: [9fans] sshserve.c

2008-04-15 Thread Bruce Ellis
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Using MacFUSE + sshfs, I have: > > -bash$ sshfs ar.aichi-u.ac.jp: /n/ar > > remote host has disconnected > > -bash$ > > Then /sys/log/ssh says: > > ar Apr 16 07:53:15 [359853] connect from 124.241.154.

Re: [9fans] sshserve.c

2008-04-16 Thread Bruce Ellis
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:30 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Using MacFUSE + sshfs

Re: [9fans] Does Plan 9 do this? It crashes QEMU on Leopard

2008-04-19 Thread Bruce Ellis
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The following was taken from a log of a run of Plan 9 on QEMU on Leopard. > When Venti told me it would archive some blocks, this is what happened: > > Apr 19 21:09:11 ool-18b97500 [0x0-0x44d44d].ch.kberg.q[9530]: sb16:

Re: [9fans] How to read fossil+venti partition without venti

2008-04-23 Thread Bruce Ellis
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. I'm trying to recover my files from the fossil+venti system I have. I > changed the configuration to read > >fsys oldfs config /dev/sdC1/fossil >fsys oldfs open -AWPVr >srv fossil > > then

Re: [9fans] I finally fixed venti

2008-04-27 Thread Bruce Ellis
less i think, since neither were broken. operator error. brucee On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [9fans] I finally fixed venti > > No, you finally fixed QEMU. > > Russ

Re: [9fans] A new language for Plan 9

2008-05-03 Thread Bruce Ellis
ratpie! tasty. i thought a pindent was what a pinhead gets when you scone him with a frypan. brucee On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my original suggestion for ratpy wasn't taken seriously, so i'll propose it > again: > > http://groups.google.com/grou

Re: [9fans] Factotum

2008-05-03 Thread Bruce Ellis
no latin? ok. find the monkees episode where the word is used. it was shown on cable when presto was going in deep. he has support from re-runs. brucee On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:57 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > I just wish it didn't have a bleak memory. Is there a way to

Re: [9fans] A new language for Plan 9

2008-05-03 Thread Bruce Ellis
Well KenC doesn't have any rat with it. So you want spam spam spam bacon and KenC. Or python and a bucket. brucee On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [9fans] A new language for Plan 9

2008-05-04 Thread Bruce Ellis
I think the quote of the day was "We already support one C-like language". brucee On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:57 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, why did alef die, or are some of you > > still using it? > > A victim of rationalisation and reality: maintaining separate > lib

Re: [9fans] A new language for Plan 9

2008-05-04 Thread Bruce Ellis
wow, sounds like a freshman assignment. don't steal ".b" from limbo, use limbo. brucee On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I put up a new Bentley. This has support for, hopefully, all control > structures: > >if e then

Re: [9fans] Linker weirdness? (was: Assembler weirdness?)

2008-05-17 Thread Bruce Ellis
please keep this off the list. you fixing something for a change.is as interesting as my puppy shiiting outside. good doggy, brucee On 5/18/08, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I fixed it by specifying in the mkfile to convert jamesmol.s to jmfixed.s or > something. > > But now when

Re: [9fans] Linker weirdness?

2008-05-17 Thread Bruce Ellis
Nice to get some technical input from you. brucee On 5/18/08, Robert William Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruce Ellis wrote: > > please keep this off the list. you fixing something for a change.is as > > interesting as my puppy shiiting outside. > > >

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