Re: [9fans] ftpd on 9front

2025-03-28 Thread ori
Quoth Garry : > OK, so I am running ftpd on 9front, but on connecting I get: > > Connected to 192.168.1.108. > 220 Plan 9 FTP server ready. > 200 UTF8 always on > User (192.168.1.108:(none)): glenda > 331 Need password > Password: > > 534 Command requires tls > Login failed. > > Any ideas of how

Re: [9fans] 9Front on Intel N100?

2025-03-28 Thread Aidan K. Wiggins via 9fans
Funny enough, I finally got another ethernet daughtboard for my laptop, and this is apparently the chip (combo?) it has. I've found it hasn't worked for me yet. I will look into it in the coming days! Aidan Quoth tlaro...@kergis.com: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 07:24:28PM +1100, Oliver Lowe wrote:

Re: [9fans] 9Front on Intel N100?

2025-03-28 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 07:24:28PM +1100, Oliver Lowe wrote: > Thanks for the tip! > > > I got a fanless mini PC with N100, Plan 9 installed no problem and > > recognised the network right away. > > What model NIC? I'm typing this from a N100 mini PC (running OpenBSD). > dmesg(8) reports the 2 n

Re: [9fans] Acme event file and keyboard

2025-03-28 Thread Robert Kroeger
You said "acme's event files on windows". To be absolutely precise: you mean this kind of window (from p9p and Edwood) (the 29 in this context)? ; 9p ls acme/29 addr body ctl data editout errors event rdsel tag wrsel xdata So: what's the exact command line with args that you're running? Because t

Re: [9fans] An interesting article on the challenges chip designers face against secure startup

2025-03-28 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 07:04:05AM -0700, ron minnich wrote: > search for: keysight rp2350 hardware attacks > > (I'm done including links :-) > > Short form: it's getting easier by the day to put together glitching > hardware, for under $1000, and uncover those keys! [From the PR departement] Th

Re: [9fans] Acme event file and keyboard

2025-03-28 Thread m via 9fans
Sorry I wasn't really clear, I'm talking about, in your example, `acme/29/event`. acme(4) explains I can also receive keyboard events and I do, I can get the characters I enter, but sending them back in has the behaviour I explained. I'm using `wineventloop` from acme.rc, and my event function i

[9fans] Host security using TPMs

2025-03-28 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
Aleksandar Kuktin writes: > I'd like to point out the problem with TPM is that, since the "trust" > chain originates with the manufacturer, or more accurately with > whomever controls the manufacturer, you'll never be in complete control > of the device. "Trusted computing" in this scenario means

Re: [9fans] An interesting article on the challenges chip designers face against secure startup

2025-03-28 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 09:20:44AM -0700, ron minnich wrote: > The relevance to plan 9: we have this thing we've used for about 30y now, > known to many of us as sdE0/nvram. > > IIUC, on the pre-x86 hardware, it really was a bit of NVRAM, the idea > being you had some bit of NVRAM on your system,

[9fans] ftpd on 9front

2025-03-28 Thread Garry
OK, so I am running ftpd on 9front, but on connecting I get: Connected to 192.168.1.108. 220 Plan 9 FTP server ready. 200 UTF8 always on User (192.168.1.108:(none)): glenda 331 Need password Password: 534 Command requires tls Login failed. Any ideas of how to get this work? I am indifferent to w

Re: [9fans] 9Front on Intel N100?

2025-03-28 Thread Garry
It's using the rtl8169 driver, but I'm not sure how to get the exact chipset model, and Googling and Copiloting isn't helping. If you know the command to run in 9front to get the info you need, let me know I'll run it. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9f

Re: [9fans] 9Front on Intel N100?

2025-03-28 Thread Oliver Lowe
Thanks for the tip! > I got a fanless mini PC with N100, Plan 9 installed no problem and > recognised the network right away. What model NIC? I'm typing this from a N100 mini PC (running OpenBSD). dmesg(8) reports the 2 network interfaces as: "Realtek 8168" rev 0x15: RTL8168H/8111H (0x5

Re: [9fans] An interesting article on the challenges chip designers face against secure startup

2025-03-28 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
Most current asymmetric cryptography (public key) is vulnerable to various forms of attacks from quantum computers of a threshold size, not yet achieved but potentially feasible to see happen in the not-too-distant future. Symmetric ciphers (ex. AES, twofish) are generally more resistant. As

[9fans] Nix/9legacy: added NSEC syscall

2025-03-28 Thread tlaronde
In order to be as compatible as possible with current userland, and to facilitate diff'ing, I have added the NSEC syscall to Nix and put the Nix added syscalls after so that there are only additions when comparing. Todget() has been updated from the 9k version as well and, since the signature has

Re: [9fans] An interesting article on the challenges chip designers face against secure startup

2025-03-28 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
>On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 12:26:37 -0700 >"Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)" wrote: > > ron minnich writes: > > > I figure that at some point somebody is going to come in and show > > us a better way to do it. Should that happen, it's good to be aware > > of just how real the threats are. So I thought

Re: [9fans] An interesting article on the challenges chip designers face against secure startup

2025-03-28 Thread ron minnich
The relevance to plan 9: we have this thing we've used for about 30y now, known to many of us as sdE0/nvram. IIUC, on the pre-x86 hardware, it really was a bit of NVRAM, the idea being you had some bit of NVRAM on your system, hard to get to, which was a good place to stash a key. X86 has always

Re: [9fans] NIX this morning

2025-03-28 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 07:47:02AM -0700, ron minnich wrote: > Off to my day job :-) Ron, I've heard rumors (perhaps apocryphal) that there exists a state of being where there is no "day job" and you can spend all your time on things that are more intellectually satisfying than any suit could ever

[9fans] An interesting article on the challenges chip designers face against secure startup

2025-03-28 Thread ron minnich
search for: keysight rp2350 hardware attacks (I'm done including links :-) Short form: it's getting easier by the day to put together glitching hardware, for under $1000, and uncover those keys! -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups

Re: [9fans] An interesting article on the challenges chip designers face against secure startup

2025-03-28 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Isn't that what the TPM is supposed to provide in a verifiable way? Arm's TrustZone presumably provides layered-isolation to keys and signatures that can be verified all the way to the manufacturer. I'm guessing they might be the basis for TPM hardware implementation. On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 9: