Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread Bakul Shah
What I meant to say is you can't apply aesthetics of art to UI as the latter has a functional purpose. And we don't have to wait for a Michelangelo to design a perfect UI! In other words, I don't think a UI discussion would be fruitless. Not to replicate KDE/Gnome etc. but to find other alternative

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread hiro
the only art in window management is how they manage to sustain so much inconsistency

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 12:24:44AM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote: > And we don't have to wait for a Michelangelo to design a perfect UI! Of course not. We already have Mike Okuda. khm

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread Chris McGee
Hi Darren, Your goal seem to be to make the system less daunting for new users. I think there are a number of ways to accomplish this. Dressing up the UI and/or making it more like popular used interfaces might be one way to make new users feel more comfortable. One concern with doing this is tha

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread Darren Wise
Heya folks, Thanks very much for the replies so far, I'm still reading them as they come in and when the flutter has calmed down a little I'll then start to reply. I'm just letting you know I am listening and reading and not being ignorant firing off some random eMail and then doing-one elsewh

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread ori
> Hey folks, > > I rarely post in-fact maybe my second ever, I was wondering if anyone > else or a group of us could work towards some window manager UI > modifications to appear more attractive in some form from the current > interface appearing in comparison to dwm(on other Nix forks) to a mo

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread ab
> Darren Wise wrote: > snip With all due respect (admittedly, I've thought about this before) but Plan 9 may be better used as a model of how thoughtful engineering can produce a great system. Perhaps better inspiration could be achieved by setting up a public Plan 9 server (or private, it's your

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Michael Misch wrote: > The whole thing is a good discussion. plan9's design works, very well; for > about 80% of would be users. For differently abled people in any capacity it > all falls apart quickly. Begging your pardon, but for *this* differently abled per

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread Michael Misch
That's good to note. (I don't consider "WinGnoKDE" a good counterpoint anyways) but for example I have reasonably debilitating carpal tunnel issues, and the heavy mouse use is a major bane to my general enjoyment in Rio when it happens. On Mon., Apr. 15, 2019, 2:00 p.m. Ethan Gardener, wrote: >

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread Marshall Conover
Hi Darren! I can see how 9's current UI could be considered a 'roadblock' to the average user due to its unfamiliarity, and making it closer to modern looks may make plan 9 pass the smell test for users more often. Personally, though, it seems like a bit of a slog; there's not much exciting going

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread Ori Bernstein
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:59:12 -0400 Marshall Conover wrote: > For example, I feel super squished on a single screen, but I've come to > dislike the awkwardness of switching between multiple 'workspaces' or > working with tiling wms. So I'm playing around with rio at the moment to > see if adding a

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread sl
ven a deficient program can be better than a featureful one, if the deficient program is simple and easy to modify. just implement whatever it is you actually want to do. some people would say this is ugly: http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rio/img/20190415.png sl

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread Lucio De Re
bout can be > modified with a minimum of knowledge and skill. this is a benefit of > the terse, simple programming style. sometimes, even a deficient > program can be better than a featureful one, if the deficient program > is simple and easy to modify. just implement whatever it is yo