Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-12 2:10 GMT+01:00 Ethan Grammatikidis : > linux-style package managers and bsd-style port trees facilitate and > enable coupling. > > What a package manager really facilitate is version management. That is when you want to use/update a software at version X that depends on libraries at ve

Re: [9fans] software archaeology

2018-02-12 Thread Steve Simon

Re: [9fans] software archaeology

2018-02-12 Thread Steve Simon
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Re: [9fans] software archaeology

2018-02-12 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Steve Simon wrote: > > > I almost want this for my wall. :)

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > 2018-02-12 2:10 GMT+01:00 Ethan Grammatikidis : >> linux-style package managers and bsd-style port trees facilitate and enable >> coupling. > > What a package manager really facilitate is version management. > That is when you want to use/u

Re: [9fans] software archaeology

2018-02-12 Thread Lucio De Re
On 2/12/18, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Steve Simon wrote: >> >> >> > > > I almost want this for my wall. :) > > > Maybe the artwork can be released? I'd pay money for a poster... Lucio.

[9fans] ReMarkable!

2018-02-12 Thread Bakul Shah
https://gizmodo.com/the-remarkable-e-ink-tablet-is-way-too-good-for-its-sof-1822612517 People like writing on its plastic screen much better than on iPadPro with its glass screen. Even with a thin plastic protector screen on the iPad, it does not fell like writing on paper - the screen doesn’t “gi

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread Lucio De Re
On 2/12/18, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > [ a neat rant I agree almost to the pixel with... ] I (mostly) manage a (very small) team of younger programmers who only really know Linux, and then the Debian or Ubuntu distros, almost exclusively. My sentiments and Ethan's seem very similar. I still co

Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!

2018-02-12 Thread hiro
we have two of these devices here in the office and my coworker loves to use it for making notes and sketches. i like the device's size for reading pdfs with annoying layouts, and i prefer this screen technology to the glaring normal displays i get to use otherwise. replace my main monitor with on

Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!

2018-02-12 Thread Bakul Shah
On Feb 12, 2018, at 5:44 AM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > i might even run acme > for a day for you. but with mouse and keyboard, i would never replace > them with touch input. Ah, but where’s the challenge in that?! Some ideas to give a sense of what I’m thinking: drawing a line across th

Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!

2018-02-12 Thread hiro
your features sound neat, but they don't solve the problem of inputing longer text.

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-12 14:05 GMT+01:00 Ethan Grammatikidis : > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Giacomo Tesio wrote: >> 2018-02-12 2:10 GMT+01:00 Ethan Grammatikidis : >>> linux-style package managers and bsd-style port trees facilitate and enable >>> coupling. >> >> What a package manager really facilitate

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread Chris McGee
Thanks everyone. This thread has been a fascinating read for me. Chris

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread tlaronde
2018-02-12 14:05 GMT+01:00 Ethan Grammatikidis : > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Giacomo Tesio wrote: >> 2018-02-12 2:10 GMT+01:00 Ethan Grammatikidis : >>> linux-style package managers and bsd-style port trees facilitate and enable >>> coupling. >> >> What a package manager really facilitat

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread Steve Simon
rob’s sam editor for X11 circa 1993 was a revelation for me. beautifully written and trivial to port to a dozen different platforms. a salutatory lesson to all. autotools is horrid, though, fgb’s config script can often get foreign stuff to build. if you want to import code rather than just po

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread Giacomo Tesio
2018-02-12 17:13 GMT+01:00 : > 2018-02-12 14:05 GMT+01:00 Ethan Grammatikidis : >> That's the marketing blurb, I've heard it a thousand times before. [...] >> So, for the last 10-12 years, maybe more, mountains of software have been >> produced on the assumption that it will be easy to find and i

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
This has been a fascinating thread. I was kind of surprised that no one came out and said "yes, 9front all the way", nor did anyone say they had 9atom working. Ideally, I'd like to have 9atom on VMware, but since it isn't maintained anymore either, 9front looks like the way to go. 9legacy might

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread sl
> On 2/10/18, Benjamin Huntsman wrote: >> Just curious as to the state of the union. Is 9front pretty much the de >> facto "official" Plan 9 these days, or does anyone still use or maintain any >> of the following: > > I'm with David (legacy), nearly all the way. > > That said, I deem it unfort

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread Lucio De Re
On 2/13/18, s...@9front.org wrote: >> >> That said, I deem it unfortunate that there isn't a drive to >> consolidate the various flavours of Plan 9 into a single offering, or >> at least identify and discuss the differences and provide for the >> choices from a single source (pun intended). > > Ha