Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 10:48:21 +0530 Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan > wrote: >> Well, looks like I cannot run any binaries anymore and getting the >> suicide message! I don't have anything critical on this vm image and >> can re-install it. But I wa

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 13:02:14 +0530 Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Bakul Shah wrote: > > On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 10:48:21 +0530 Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan .com> wrote: > >> Well, looks like I cannot run any binaries anymore and getting the > >> suicide message!

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
Hi, On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 13:02:14 +0530 Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan > wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Bakul Shah wrote: >> > On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 10:48:21 +0530 Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan > .com> wrote: >> >> Well, looks like I cannot

[9fans] Glenda's world weary cousin

2014-06-06 Thread Steve Simon
Glenda's world weary cousin https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpZjUjXIYAIJiua.jpg -Steve

Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?

2014-06-06 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
>I'm a Unix fan, I use BSD, Minix, Linux, and any unix-like OS I can get my hands on. Why? P.S. The kernel is monolithic. Although, IIRC, there were attempts to make it a hybrid. 2014-06-05 23:33 GMT+03:00 Yoann Padioleau : > Nice! > > On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:14 PM, s...@9front.org wrote: > > > >

Re: [9fans] Glenda's world weary cousin

2014-06-06 Thread Nicolas Bercher
On 06/06/2014 11:10, Steve Simon wrote: Glenda's world weary cousin https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpZjUjXIYAIJiua.jpg Maybe the nsec patch would have been refused by this guy, right?! (not a troll, just kidding!) Nicolas

Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
> P.S. The kernel is monolithic. Although, IIRC, there were attempts to make > it a hybrid. this is far from the full story. because of the mount driver, many things may be in the kernel or userland according to what makes sense. for example, the ip stack has moved back and forth several times.

Re: [9fans] Glenda's world weary cousin

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jun 6 08:16:20 EDT 2014, nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote: > On 06/06/2014 11:10, Steve Simon wrote: > > Glenda's world weary cousin > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpZjUjXIYAIJiua.jpg > > Maybe the nsec patch would have been refused by this guy, right?! > (not a troll, just kidding!) there wa

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread Bakul Shah
> On Jun 5, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan > wrote: > > Hi, > > I just saw a suicide message on 9atom running on plan9 while updating > the system: > > % replica/pull -v /dist/replica/network I missed that you were running 9atom. Using old binaries to copy the new kernel to /n

[9fans] MIPS _xdec kernel vs. user land

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
i know it's not used much, but this is very curious, and if the kernel version is correct, the user space version needs correcting, too. the rb kernel version starts with TEXT_xdec(SB), $0 SYNC why is a sync necessary? i would think, if LL/SC don't do what they do at

Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?

2014-06-06 Thread lucio
> thus, while the kernel is fairly traditional, the capabilities are not. They should be, but tradition is slow to catch on. L.

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jun 6 11:26:13 EDT 2014, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: > > > On Jun 5, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I just saw a suicide message on 9atom running on plan9 while updating > > the system: > > > > % replica/pull -v /dist/replica/network > > I

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:05 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Fri Jun 6 11:26:13 EDT 2014, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: >> >> > On Jun 5, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan >> > wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I just saw a suicide message on 9atom running on plan9 while updating >> > the sy

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
> > that's not how replica works. replica respects local changes. however, > > since in this case two different databases were mixed up, there is little > > chance that the user has a sane system. > > What is the recommended way keep a 9atom system up to date? running pull as user glenda, same

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > >> On Jun 5, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I just saw a suicide message on 9atom running on plan9 while updating >> the system: >> >> % replica/pull -v /dist/replica/network > > I missed that you were ru

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
> I thought that replica/pull on a 9atom would pull 9atom binaries and > not the labs version. Looks like that assumption is wrong? only on .iso versions of 9atom several years old. to correct this issue, you'd have to sync /usr/glenda/bin/rc/pull first. - erik

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:25 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> I thought that replica/pull on a 9atom would pull 9atom binaries and >> not the labs version. Looks like that assumption is wrong? > > only on .iso versions of 9atom several years old. to correct this issue, > you'd have to sync /usr/glenda

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jun 6 12:08:28 EDT 2014, vu3...@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:25 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > >> I thought that replica/pull on a 9atom would pull 9atom binaries and > >> not the labs version. Looks like that assumption is wrong? > > > > only on .iso versions of 9atom several

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:56 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Fri Jun 6 12:08:28 EDT 2014, vu3...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:25 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> >> I thought that replica/pull on a 9atom would pull 9atom binaries and >> >> not the labs version. Looks like that assumpti

[9fans] power _xinc vs ainc

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
the /sys/src/9/ppc kernel adds this line to both _xinc and _xdec DCBF(R4)/* fix for 603x bug */ would this also be needed for the c library version? - erik

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 11:35:08 EDT erik quanstrom wrote: > On Fri Jun 6 11:26:13 EDT 2014, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: > > > > > On Jun 5, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I just saw a suicide message on 9atom running on plan9 while updating > >

Re: [9fans] suicide message on vmware

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
> What two databases? the divergent versions of /sys/lib/dist/replica/plan9.db and its log on the sources and 9atom. > Replica respects local changes at the file level. You still > have to do a manual merge if the server version changed as > well. that's what i said, but this is remove vs remot

Re: [9fans] Glenda's world weary cousin

2014-06-06 Thread Steven Stallion
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Nicolas Bercher wrote: > On 06/06/2014 11:10, Steve Simon wrote: >> >> Glenda's world weary cousin >> >> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpZjUjXIYAIJiua.jpg > > > Maybe the nsec patch would have been refused by this guy, right?! > (not a troll, just kidding!) I thought

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 image for Google Compute Engine?

2014-06-06 Thread cinap_lenrek
DONE, now beer. http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/detail?r=2f51489d42116c85159dc1649ab82cec9a766542 -- cinap

[9fans] glenda at 3200x1800x32

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
i was kindly sent this by someone who's had success with a modern laptop: > Hello Erik > > Just tried the latest usb image and wanted to let you know it works quite > well. I get this message, though: > > acpinitr: pm1sts 0x400 pm1en 0x100 > > repeated all the time, getting a lot of context sw

Re: [9fans] glenda at 3200x1800x32

2014-06-06 Thread sl
>> So here is another proof that plan9 can run on recent hardware, including >> beautiful notebooks :) Is any more specific information available about the manufacturer and model of the laptop? sl

Re: [9fans] glenda at 3200x1800x32

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sat Jun 7 00:34:03 EDT 2014, s...@9front.org wrote: > >> So here is another proof that plan9 can run on recent hardware, including > >> beautiful notebooks :) > > Is any more specific information available about the manufacturer and model > of the laptop? > i quote, dell xps 15 (mode

[9fans] advanced core Linux kernel features not in plan9

2014-06-06 Thread Yoann Padioleau
Hi, I was curious to know which core features of the Linux kernel are not implemented in the plan9 kernel. By core I mean that I know plan9 does not have all the drivers, filesystems, buses, etc Linux has, but it has many of its core features (virtual memory, paging, swapping, demand loading, co

Re: [9fans] advanced core Linux kernel features not in plan9

2014-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
> I was curious to know which core features of the Linux kernel are not > implemented > in the plan9 kernel. By core I mean that I know plan9 does not have all the > drivers, > filesystems, buses, etc Linux has, but it has many of its core > features (virtual memory, paging, swapping, demand load

Re: [9fans] advanced core Linux kernel features not in plan9

2014-06-06 Thread cinap_lenrek
theres a kernel file cache for cached mounts (see the -C option), tho its broken in labs plan9. pages of executables are cached. the disk fileservers implement a buffer cache to avoid going to disk and do lazy writing out dirty filesystem blocks. plan9 is a distributed system. the disk fileserve