Secstore really helps here.
john
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Federico Benavento
wrote:
> http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/mail_configuration/index.html
>
> factotum doesn't have your key, try
> % auth/fgui &
> % /bin/upas/smtp -as net!smtp.gmail.com dest@dom
>
> a window will pop
> http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/mail_configuration/index.html
>
> factotum doesn't have your key, try
> % auth/fgui &
> % /bin/upas/smtp -as net!smtp.gmail.com dest@dom
>
> a window will pop up and ask for your pass...
>
> you'll have to add the smtp value for your network in your /
Thank you, I kind of got the idea that Plan 9 is an informal hobby/
research platform, and that the community contributes where they can,
unless its something serious like a new release (probably not up to
everybody).
> Who handles legal issues? The answer's probably "nobody". Or
> everyone handle
On Mon May 14 23:58:41 EDT 2012, mve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> On May 14, 2012, at 11:51 PM, John Floren wrote:
> >
> > If you have a large number of messages, Erik's "nupas" is useful; IIRC
> > it will cache messages locally so you don't have to download a ton of
> > headers each time you start up
On Mon May 14 22:57:54 EDT 2012, s...@9front.org wrote:
> > > Can you try getting rid of *nomp=1 and setting *msi=1
> > >
> >
> > I tried removing *nomp and adding *msi and got similar errors,
> > but with ioapicenable and mpreenable. The disks got recognized
> > a lot faster this time, which was
> > > On the Thinkpad T61, the hard drive is sometimes not detected on the
> > > first attempt. After thirty seconds or so it usually succeeds and
> > > boots as normal.
> >
> > have you done any debugging of this? that sounds like a condition i haven't
> > observed.
>
> On my Thinkcentre M55 the
> Here's some relevant output of linux dmesg regarding MP on my machine:
[...]
> [0.00] Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
i think this is the salient bit. linux is not using the mp tables. it's using
acpi.
- erik
Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> once said:
> All mentioned words are part of the eternal fight
> between DP9IK and SP9SSS. As we all know is DP9IK winning.
We mustn't fight each other! Surely we should
be united against the common enemy!
Anthony
> I tried removing *nomp and adding *msi and got similar errors,
> but with ioapicenable and mpreenable. The disks got recognized
> a lot faster this time, which was better, but my keyboard didn't work :-/
> I can't really capture the full output as a lot of it scrolls off the screen
> but I can
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:31 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> i'd be interested in if a 9atom kernel works on this machine.
> (hget http://ftp.quanstro.net/other/9pccd.gz) unfortunately, i don't
> think i can easily boot to a cwfs root file system.
I trued the 9atom kernel and I got similar messages
Greetings.
On Tue, 15 May 2012 14:19:37 +0200 Anthony Martin wrote:
> Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> once said:
> > All mentioned words are part of the eternal fight
> > between DP9IK and SP9SSS. As we all know is DP9IK winning.
>
> We mustn't fight each other! Surely we should
> be unit
"Thank you, I kind of got the idea that Plan 9 is an informal hobby/
research platform, and that the community contributes where they can,
unless its something serious like a new release (probably not up to
everybody)."
It's more than a hobby/research platform, although we sometimes say that to
sa
That was actually a joke. The real reason not to keep plans open is there
are no plans in
the conventional meaning of the word. Let's check:
" 1. A draught or form; properly, a representation drawn on a
plane, as a map or a chart; especially, a top view, as of a machine,
or the representation or
In any case my T61 should be showing up today or tomorrow so I'll
have dedicated computer for my plan9 experiments. Hopefully that
will work better as it was recommended by some others on the list.
Eric, I noticed you have a blade server which I would guess means
they work with plan9. I was look
My G/F was asking how many people use Plan9. Does anybody have an
estimate of the size of the community? I said maybe 20 or 30 to her,
but I'm sure that's low.
--
Burton Samograd (+1 to community size estimation :)
Hey,
On 15 May 2012 13:42, Burton Samograd wrote:
> My G/F was asking how many people use Plan9. Does anybody have an
> estimate of the size of the community? I said maybe 20 or 30 to her,
> but I'm sure that's low.
19 people (by my count) have posted to this one thread. It's probably
quite di
On Tuesday 15 of May 2012 06:42:42 Burton Samograd wrote:
> My G/F was asking how many people use Plan9. Does anybody have an
> estimate of the size of the community? I said maybe 20 or 30 to her,
> but I'm sure that's low.
there used to be that `9grid' thingie (can't find much of it anymore), w
On Tue May 15 08:20:29 EDT 2012, burton.samog...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:31 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > i'd be interested in if a 9atom kernel works on this machine.
> > (hget http://ftp.quanstro.net/other/9pccd.gz) unfortunately, i don't
> > think i can easily boot to a cw
> Eric, I noticed you have a blade server which I would guess means
> they work with plan9. I was looking at them yesterday; are there
> particular models that work well/at all?
the hs23 does work with the intel 82599 or myricom 10gbe mezzanine
cards. no emulex support at this time.
i have had
Greetings.
On Tue, 15 May 2012 14:42:52 +0200 Charles Forsyth
wrote:
> No, I don't think anything has ever been as concrete as that. Dreams,
> perhaps.
> We could share our dreams, I suppose. Really, we just make it up as we go
> along, I think.
There was a need to provide a real »Plan 9 pro
> On the other side the (now two!) Nixes, 9atom, Plan 9 from (corporate)
> Bell Labs are either too academic or dead. They are only fueled by the
> business or academic positions of persons in the specific subgroups.
> I can’t imagine 9fronters to work under the iron fist of the quality
> seems pretty clear that your mp table is junk. too bad.
Ironic given I bought an Intel MB to keep from having problems like this.
--
Burton Samograd
This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly
confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retentio
I forgot to mention that apart from there actually being no plan as such,
no one really was able to afford the time and energy to organise a big
community thing and keep it going. (Even sources is not a full-time matter.)
On 15 May 2012 13:42, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote:
> There was
On Tue May 15 10:14:38 EDT 2012, burton.samog...@markit.com wrote:
>
> > seems pretty clear that your mp table is junk. too bad.
>
> Ironic given I bought an Intel MB to keep from having problems like this.
intel generally doesn't provide complete mp tables.
- erik
Hi,
After finding this
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7034/6838421761_9c02a4da0b_o.png
i became very much interested in plan9 and installed it right away. But my
excitement disappeared as soon as i did 'cat /lib/meinkampf'.
nein% cat /lib/meinkampf
NEIN! can't open /lib/meinkampf : No such file o
should add irq type and interrupt counts to a arch file like
erik did in 9atom. but for now, some awk did the trick.
theres the mp table from sl's t61. (sorry for the raw nature of
this dump)
processor: 00 00 14 03 FB 06 00 00 FF FB EB BF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
processor: 00 01 14 01 FB 06 00 0
erik quanstrom wrote:
>ignoring the spurious and fallacious arguments, the remaining point is
>false.
can you specify which one you're addressing?
>for example, there are members of at least 4 different organizations
>participating in nix.
not sure which point this addresses.
9front does not re
> i wonder why such an (important) non-existing feature is falsely advertised
We've moved on now to a more modern approach.
-sl
> as i said before, this mp table of this machine identity maps
> all irq's to isa interrupts wich are edge triggered. mpintrenablex()
> code refused to share edge triggered interrupts causing half the usb
> controllers not receiving ther irq's in mp mode.
that's probablly just wrong. have you tr
On May 14, 2012, at 23:57 , Matthew Veety wrote:
> My 16,000 message inbox usually make nupas and upas
> shit the bed. I've never had specific messages kill it though.
Note that once updating to nupas, you should then (manually)
convert your mailbox to the new format. I've had mailboxes of
severa
In my experience nupas was definitely nicer to use with gmail.
With the old upas, loading the inbox over a slow connection
would sometimes take several minutes. With nupas, it usually
took only a few seconds.
-sl
> there used to be that `9grid' thingie (can't find much of it anymore), which
> offered free accounts to anyone who bothered asking.
>
> there was a public list of user accounts on some page; IIRC well over 50.
> some
> had custom face(7)s.
9grid is a bit of an overloaded term, but I think yo
no. the i/o apics are programmed like before as specified in the iointr
entry from the mp table. i have no way differentiating if this is a
real isa bus or some compatibilty hack or just plain wrong mp table.
i looked in openbsd code and just figured they allow sharing edge
interrupts so i just re
Yes, I see you've realised that "Nemo" has nothing to do with that nautical
fellow,
but refers to the Latin motto "Nemo me impune lacessit"!
On 15 May 2012 13:42, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote:
> I can’t imagine 9fronters to work under the iron fist of the quality
> rulers in Nix.
damn, I'll have now to seek for another uid
it's all in the open.
On May 15, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> Yes, I see you've realised that "Nemo" has nothing to do with that nautical
> fellow,
> but refers to the Latin motto "Nemo me impune lacessit"!
>
> On 15 May 2012 13:42
wrote a awk script that generate iointr mp table
entries from linux dmesg output.
i merged the info into the mp table from that T61,
but i got the dmesg from the a random google search
so it might be wrong. someone provide me with a linux
dmesg of that machine?
anyway, theres the mptable override
> i merged the info into the mp table from that T61, but
> i got the dmesg from the a random google search so it
> might be wrong. someone provide me with a linux dmesg
> of that machine?
I should be getting my T61 tonite so I can provide the output
for you in case nobody responds before then.
-
excellent, thanks.
- boot linux, save dmesg.
- boot 9front with *dumpmp= option, then save /dev/kmesg output.
--
cinap
> 9load and 9loadusb should behave much as the old ones
> did, though I hope that the new ones will run on more machines.
With either of these, I get
panic: RMCODE < 2070 bytes
It seems that the real-mode code is a bit large:
term% nm -ng /386/9loaddebug
8001 T _start16r
8001 T _
what is this about?
goes back to TV.
I would like to point out that The Popular Front for Plan 9 - General
Command (T.P.F.P.9 - G.C.) has stated its position regarding B.D.F.L
in the past; please see the 9fans archive (search for "halibut").
P.S. The Popular Front is not affiliated with 9 People's Front (9front
-- which by-the-way is
> P.S. The Popular Front is not affiliated with 9 People's Front (9front
> -- which by-the-way is less than 9 people).
Splitters!
-sl
the *mp=400 line should be on the top right before *mp0= ... sorry
about that. (9boot quirk :-))
--
cinap
> the *mp=400 line should be on the top right before *mp0= ... sorry
> about that. (9boot quirk :-))
Works on my T61.
-sl
> but refers to the Latin motto "Nemo me impune lacessit"!
Sorry, off topis.
What does this Latin motto mean?
I have no Latin based culture...
Kenji -- still learning octopus and inferno☺
Hi,
Here is some thing that tripped me up.
First from a shell script, execute an echo and direct it to a file in
/env (essentially setting that variable). However the command does
not seem to have any effect
cpu% @{rfork e; echo hi} > /env/hi cpu% cat /env/hi
And it is specific to the filesyst
http://3cx.org/media/1/20040203-Nemo-Found.jpg
--
cinap
> http://3cx.org/media/1/20040203-Nemo-Found.jpg
I like this new "let's not take ourselves too seriously" 9fans mailing
list much more enjoyable.
there might be more plan9 users than you think.
ever used the web? ever used google chrome? well,
turns out, google chrome is just a covered up
drawterm!
why does google run all these data centers? thats
because they'r running webkit (which is really
written in go) on google servers wich are all
On Tue May 15 21:44:21 EDT 2012, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
> there might be more plan9 users than you think.
all kidding aside, take a job in athens. see for yourself.
- erik
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