On May 9, 2:15 am, j...@jfloren.net (John Floren) wrote:
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:34 AM, IainWS wrote:
> > Hi there! I am trying to get involved more with plan 9 but having some
> > trouble finding resources on it that are all in one place. I have
> > started a blog so that I can add resources t
On May 9, 6:23 am, yari...@gmail.com (Yaroslav) wrote:
> > Could you elaborate on your choice of using "sam -d"?
>
> Agree, 'sam -d' is not an entry-level choice.
Out of the two editors available I would really opt for using Acme
instead. If you happen to find yourself newly installing plan 9 then
> Out of the two editors available I would really opt for using Acme
there are three (ed).
> instead. If you happen to find yourself newly installing plan 9 then
> someone might suggest Sam to use and you will be stuck trying to learn
> everything about Sam before you can start. Learning only the
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:09 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> Sam is enough for the new user, and learning it without the mouse
>> seems like a really good idea. I agree with you sam -d is not an entry
I think it's much easier to learn sam _with_ the mouse, and only then
move on to sam -d for times wh
How do you get it to start so quickly?
On 9 May 2012 13:16, Russ Cox wrote:
> It's not like Eclipse where you have to wait minutes for
> the thing to start.
>
>From 9vx.OSX if I compile this
#include
#include
void main(void)
{
float f = 99.99;
exits(0);
}
with 5c/5l and then 5i it, it gives:
undefined instruction trap pc #102c inst ed9b0100 class 92
Is floating point supported with 5i?
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Greg Comeau / 4.3.10.1 with C++0xisms now in beta!
yes. the instructions are not implemented. unfortunately abort()
was called without flushing the output, so the error message wasn't
printed.
; diffy -c /sys/src/cmd/5i/run.c
/n/dump/2012/0509/sys/src/cmd/5i/run.c:260,265 - /sys/src/cmd/5i/run.c:260,266
{
Bprint(bioout, "undefined inst
aiju wrote an arm emulator for 9front some time ago and
i remember he implemented floating point on it.
might have a look there:
http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e
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cinap
I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true?
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM, wrote:
> aiju wrote an arm emulator for 9front some time ago and
> i remember he implemented floating point on it.
>
> might have a look there:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e
Thanks. What's the most sane way of downloading
Along these lines, is there a recommendation for the best laptop for running
plan9? Ie. Native video, working Ethernet/wifi, no hassles with HW
compatibility, etc. One every system I've tried there's always been something
that has gone wrong, so I'm hoping that the wisdom of this list will dir
> > might have a look there:
> >
> > http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e
>
> Thanks. What's the most sane way of downloading it to 9vx.OSX?
mkdir /sys/src/cmd/5e
cd /sys/src/cmd/5e
for(i in 5e.c arm.c dat.h fns.h fpa.c fs.c mkfile proc.c seg.c sys.c util.c)
h
Ok, linking gives:
main: undefined: ainc in main
Looks to be a function (which also seems to be undeclared in 5e.c), anybody
know where it is located?
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Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
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A Thinkpad X60 or X61 works great and is very light, too.
john
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Burton Samograd
wrote:
> Along these lines, is there a recommendation for the best laptop for running
> plan9? Ie. Native video, working Ethernet/wifi, no hassles with HW
> compatibility, etc. One
> Ok, linking gives:
>
> main: undefined: ainc in main
>
> Looks to be a function (which also seems to be undeclared in 5e.c),
> anybody know where it is located?
It's defined in the libc. You can add it
to /sys/include/libc.h if you wish.
--
David du Colombier
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:34 AM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > Ok, linking gives:
> >
> > main: undefined: ainc in main
> >
> > Looks to be a function (which also seems to be undeclared in 5e.c),
> > anybody know where it is located?
>
> It's defined in the libc. You can add it
> A Thinkpad X60 or X61 works great and is very light, too.
I have an X61T that works great with 9front. The T61 is also
a good choice (almost identical hardware to the X61T, but with
no tablet and a 14" 1280x800 screen). Some caveats:
- There are no known working Mini PCI Express wifi cards
- ap
> If I nm /386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc
>
> it returns nothing.
Your libc is obviously not up-do-date.
term% nm /n/sources/plan9/386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc
atom.8: T ainc
See /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/libc/386/atom.s
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David du Colombier
On 05/09/2012 05:44 PM, Vincent Zhao wrote:
I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true?
Toshiba Portege M300. Everything but wifi works as expected.
Thinkpad T23 is the canonical Plan 9 laptop. Everything I've tried
on it works: apm, sound, wifi. The Actiontec 800MIP (branded WaveLAN)
wifi card it ships with actually works.
Thinkpad T42 is likewise well supported. The wifi card(s) it shipped
with did not work for me, but its Mini PCI slot is c
> Another option for wifi is PCMCIA, which has the benefit of being
> available on almost all laptops. However, I've not had great luck.
not so much anymore.
- erik
On Wed May 9 10:38:21 EDT 2012, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
> aiju wrote an arm emulator for 9front some time ago and
> i remember he implemented floating point on it.
>
> might have a look there:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/browse/sys/src/cmd/5e
why was it done this way rathe
What do you think the compatibility of getting an Actiontech 800MiP card and
using it in an X60? I like the form factor of the X60 plus the better specs,
I'm just not sure if it also uses the same Mini PCI slot of the T23.
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Burton Samograd
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Also, all I can find on ebay is the 802MiP which looks to be a wifi/modem
combo. Any idea if this is compatible with the 800MiP?
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Burton Samograd
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Burton Samograd
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> What do you think the compatibility of getting an Actiontech
> 800MiP card and using it in an X60?
ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI.
Unfortunately, the cards are not compatible. You could try
to acquire a WaveLAN PC24E-H-FC.
-sl
> Also, all I can find on ebay is the 802MiP which looks to be
> a wifi/modem combo. Any idea if this is compatible with the
> 800MiP?
No idea.
-sl
Another possibility for wifi would be something like the
VAP11G wifi bridge dongle. These are small devices that
bridge an Ethernet port to wifi. Note: I've never actually
used one.
-sl
the 7500's FPA.
On 9 May 2012 17:36, erik quanstrom wrote:
> also, *which* floating point does it emulate.
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:03 PM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > If I nm /386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc
> >
> > it returns nothing.
>
> Your libc is obviously not up-do-date.
>
> term% nm /n/sources/plan9/386/lib/libc.a | grep ainc
> atom.8: T ainc
>
> See /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/lib
I remember reading a while back that plan9 didn't support more than 1.7G of
memory. Is this still the case?
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To: 9fans@9fans.net
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plan 9 supports up to 4g of memory, depending on the
size of pci space, and 3.75g per process.
- erik
in support of sam, i use it and always have, i never
got to the point with acme that it felt worth the effort of changing.
sam is not an an introductory editor, its an alternative.
the one place where i do use acme is the wiki, there is no sam
wiki interface... unless you know different?
On 9 Ma
> I have an X61T...
Do you mean an X61s? I see no reference to the X61T on the ThinkWiki.
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Burton Samograd
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s...@9front.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:57 AM
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X61_Tablet
-sl
I've got one of those with the 1400x1050 display, it runs Plan 9 well,
looks great, and has a fantastic screen.
john
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM, wrote:
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X61_Tablet
>
> -sl
>
> > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X61_Tablet
>
> I've got one of those with the 1400x1050 display, it runs Plan 9 well,
> looks great, and has a fantastic screen.
Nice!
-sl
> ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI.
mhm, isn't mini pci express the newer smaller slot? I have an X60 and
it has the old large slot which I think is called PCMCIA
> > ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI.
>
> mhm, isn't mini pci express the newer smaller slot? I have an X60 and
> it has the old large slot which I think is called PCMCIA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_PCI#Mini_PCI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcmcia
-sl
Can Plan9 be installed on the Thinkpad x201i?
Thanks.
2012/5/10
> > > ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI.
> >
> > mhm, isn't mini pci express the newer smaller slot? I have an X60 and
> > it has the old large slot which I think is called PCMCIA
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w
> Can Plan9 be installed on the Thinkpad x201i?
> Thanks.
>
It works in RubeGoldberg 2.2 but will not autocompile freeway
scuzzmonkey merge svn commitshare javahunk.
// could not resist, apologies all round.
> I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true?
I'm trying to make it. Though more a programmer's tablet than a laptop.
Take care,
Tristan
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