Re: [9fans] copying fossil filesystem to a bigger disk

2011-10-13 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
Sorry, I was wrong : I am running plan9/fossil on a 1TB WD Caviar disk: WD1002FBYS, however, this is not what you wanted, sorry. ++pac On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Peter A. Cejchan wrote: > i use WD Caviar > Greenmodel > *WD20EARS (2TB

[9fans] ext2srv understands only 7bit ASCII file names?

2011-10-13 Thread slash
I have some files on an external ext2 drive that have whitespace and umlauts (ä, ö) in them. trfs took care of the whitespace. But ext2srv presents umlauts as a question mark symbol (�) and won't let me access the file (error: file does not exist). Where is the problem? These files show correctly

Re: [9fans] ext2srv understands only 7bit ASCII file names?

2011-10-13 Thread dexen deVries
On Thursday 13 of October 2011 13:15:57 slash wrote: > I have some files on an external ext2 drive that have whitespace and > umlauts (ä, ö) in them. trfs took care of the whitespace. But ext2srv > presents umlauts as a question mark symbol (�) and won't let me access > the file (error: file does n

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread comeauat9f...@gmail.com
C and UNIX were each very significant turning points in my life for various reasons. Two thoughts: printf("Thank you DMR!\n"); return EXIT_SUCCESS;

Re: [9fans] ext2srv understands only 7bit ASCII file names?

2011-10-13 Thread Russ Cox
On Oct 13, 2011 at 07:16, slash wrote: > I have some files on an external ext2 drive that have whitespace and > umlauts (ä, ö) in them. trfs took care of the whitespace. But ext2srv > presents umlauts as a question mark symbol (�) and won't let me access > the file (error: file does not exist). >

Re: [9fans] ext2srv understands only 7bit ASCII file names?

2011-10-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Oct 13 07:38:54 EDT 2011, dexen.devr...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday 13 of October 2011 13:15:57 slash wrote: > > I have some files on an external ext2 drive that have whitespace and > > umlauts (ä, ö) in them. trfs took care of the whitespace. But ext2srv > > presents umlauts as a questio

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread dexen deVries
C and linux got me into the great adventure of computing. big thanks to dmr (Unix uid 7) who made it all possible. -- dexen deVries [[[↓][→]]]

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Digby Tarvin
It is so sad that the people most responsible for the key software technologies are almost unheard of by the general public, and most credit seems to be given to people that jump on the bandwagon much later.. If there was a Nobel prize for software, dmr would have been one of the top on my list.

Re: [9fans] ext2srv understands only 7bit ASCII file names?

2011-10-13 Thread slash
> if you know what the charset on disk is, you could probablly hack ext2fs > into translating names.  or (less hacky) you could write a transliterating fs, > or add this to trfs' duties. Thank you. So now I know ext2srv is not doing any file name conversion. Good. Say I wanted to add the followin

Re: [9fans] ext2srv understands only 7bit ASCII file names?

2011-10-13 Thread Russ Cox
> example of whitespace handling etc in trfs.c and recompile. Now, where > is the latin-1 code table again... latin-1 bytes 00-FF turn into unicode runes 00-FF.

Re: [9fans] ext2srv understands only 7bit ASCII file names?

2011-10-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Oct 13 11:27:00 EDT 2011, slash.9f...@gmail.com wrote: > > > latin-1 bytes 00-FF turn into unicode runes 00-FF. > > Then why doesn't it Just Work? Now I am confused (again). unicode codepoints (runes) are abstract. we need to deal with encodings. the encoding utf-8 uses is not a single b

Re: [9fans] ext2srv understands only 7bit ASCII file names?

2011-10-13 Thread slash . 9fans
> latin-1 bytes 00-FF turn into unicode runes 00-FF. Then why doesn't it Just Work? Now I am confused (again).

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread pera
Turing Award is something like a Nobel prize for computers. RIP dmr :'( On Oct 13, 10:18 am, dig...@acm.org (Digby Tarvin) wrote: > It is so sad that the people most responsible for the key software > technologies are almost unheard of by the general public, and most > credit seems to be given to

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Digby Tarvin
Thats true. I hope the Turing award is more widely know in other parts of the world than it is here (a bit sad as I can walk to Bletchley Park from here). At least the general public know that winning a Nobel prize is something significant, although even that gets woefully little media attention he

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread tlaronde
> On Oct 13, 10:18 am, dig...@acm.org (Digby Tarvin) wrote: > > > > If there was a Nobel prize for software, dmr would have been one of > > the top on my list. Culture is what is left when everything is forgotten. Eminent men are the ones remembered when fashionable ones vanished in the silence fo

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 07:19:59PM +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > And it's a chance that there is no Nobel for mathematics or computer > science: no need to be deshonored by this mondaine crap. Or there are shameful "Nobel" prizes, like the economics, started by the Bank of Sweden taking pro

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 17:56 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: > I hope the Turing award is more widely know in other > parts of the world than it is here (a bit sad as I can walk to > Bletchley Park from here). Even Bletchley Park doesn't recognize its own. The real heavy lifting in Bletchley's WWII cry

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread simon softnet
I loved Dennis Ritchie, along with all the folks from "The labs", even though I wasn't even born at the time of their greatest breakthroughs. Greatest inspiration I ever had comes from the mentality of those people in Bell Labs. Rest in Peace, and all my respect. Simon. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread comeauat9f...@gmail.com
On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:19 PM, pera wrote: > Turing Award is something like a Nobel prize for computers. >> >> >> Indeed and I'm certain recalling various IEEE etc awards. On that same note, I'm certain he knew his impact, and for many that's sufficient, and perhaps as it should be. RIP.

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Digby Tarvin
> > I hope the Turing award is more widely know in other > > parts of the world than it is here (a bit sad as I can walk to > > Bletchley Park from here). > > Even Bletchley Park doesn't recognize its own. The real heavy lifting in > Bletchley's WWII cryptanalysis was not the Enigma stuff but the

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Charles Forsyth
It just got some Lottery money. On 13 October 2011 19:24, Digby Tarvin wrote: > Even the Enigma stuff seems under funded.

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Oct 13 13:23:01 EDT 2011, virik...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 07:19:59PM +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > And it's a chance that there is no Nobel for mathematics or computer > > science: no need to be deshonored by this mondaine crap. > > Or there are shameful "Nobel"

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 15:30 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Thu Oct 13 13:23:01 EDT 2011, virik...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 07:19:59PM +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > > And it's a chance that there is no Nobel for mathematics or computer > > > science: no need to be des

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Nick LaForge
> It is so sad that the people most responsible for the key software > technologies are almost unheard of by the general public, and most > credit seems to be given to people that jump on the bandwagon much > later.. > If there was a Nobel prize for software, dmr would have been one of > the top o

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Thomas
I remember his giving a talk about 5 years ago at the time of his retirement from Bell Labs. He was delighted that he was now a contract employee and no longer had to fill out a certain form annually and answer a question something like: "What have you done for Bell Labs this year?" Free at l

[9fans] OAuth

2011-10-13 Thread Anthony Sorace
i want to do some things which require OAuth. i don't like it, but it's what many folks are doing now and i don't think i can fight it. has anyone looked into this? architecturally, it's not immediately clear to me how much of the http dance out to be in factotum. it could just store access keys.

Re: [9fans] Sad News

2011-10-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
The form was colloquially known as the "I Am Great" report. brucee On 14 October 2011 09:57, Thomas wrote: > I remember his giving a talk about 5 years ago at the time of his > > retirement from Bell Labs. He was delighted that he was now  a > > contract employee and no longer had to fill out a

Re: [9fans] OAuth

2011-10-13 Thread simon softnet
I have only used OAuth for sending private twitter messages with a program, so I can only provide info through the twitter perspective. There is a handshake that needs to take place, during which your client program exchanges (token, key) pairs with the authentication service. Say you want to acce

[9fans] plan9port on lion

2011-10-13 Thread Russ Cox
It looks like Apple pushed Xcode 4.2 to the App Store recently. That, combined with some recent changes to plan9port, means that plan9port finally compiles 'out of the box' on Lion. Many thanks to David Jeannot for his heroic struggles with Cocoa and Objective C. Russ