Re: [9fans] copying fossil filesystem to a bigger disk

2011-09-30 Thread Richard Miller
> inquiry WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 > ... > The new drive is completely blank. It has 4096 byte sector size, and > disk/mbr fails. > > su# disk/mbr -m /386/mbr /dev/sdE1/data > mbr: secsize 4096 invalid Interesting. I have a WD10EARS which lies about its sector size - it reports 512 although it's rea

Re: [9fans] copying fossil filesystem to a bigger disk

2011-09-30 Thread Richard Miller
> I have a WD10EARS which lies about its sector size Some further information: I'm using the sdata driver rather than sdiahci because my motherboard doesn't support ahci. This may be why I'm seeing the disk as having 512-byte sectors not 4096. You could try telling your BIOS to use the disk in A

Re: [9fans] copying fossil filesystem to a bigger disk

2011-09-30 Thread Charles Forsyth
it's impressive that by 2011 we are unable to drive disks in as straightforward a manner as in the 1970s. better still, there are several competing miserable standards (and i'm not even including USB).

Re: [9fans] copying fossil filesystem to a bigger disk

2011-09-30 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Sep 30 05:37:57 EDT 2011, fors...@terzarima.net wrote: > it's impressive that by 2011 we are unable to drive disks in as > straightforward > a manner as in the 1970s. better still, there are several competing miserable > standards (and i'm not even including USB). this is one case where i

Re: [9fans] copying fossil filesystem to a bigger disk

2011-09-30 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Sep 30 04:55:43 EDT 2011, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: > > I have a WD10EARS which lies about its sector size > > Some further information: I'm using the sdata driver rather than > sdiahci because my motherboard doesn't support ahci. This may be why > I'm seeing the disk as having 512-byte se

Re: [9fans] copying fossil filesystem to a bigger disk

2011-09-30 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:44:01 +0100 Charles Forsyth wrote: > it's impressive that by 2011 we are unable to drive disks in as > straightforward > a manner as in the 1970s. better still, there are several competing miserable > standards (and i'm not even including USB). Not to be too depressive, b

[9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-09-30 Thread Axel Belinfante
Just curious what 9fans use, for home and/or work, to backup their macs. time machine? to a local (usb,firewire) disk? or remote (time capsule, nas (not officially sanctioned by apple))? or eat our own dog food and use eg. venti? or tra? or no backup necessary because everything important is alr

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-09-30 Thread Anthony Sorace
> Just curious what 9fans use, for home and/or work, to backup their macs. I use venti. On servers, I use /n/sources/contrib/anothy/bin/rc/vacbak from cron and have the system submit the score to my plan9 server. I tried using vbackup first, but there's a huge volume of stuff on these systems I d

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-09-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
> When non-plan9 people ask me this question I tell them to get an external > disk and use Time Machine. I would tell it to Plan9 folks as well. There is no way to recover from a catestrophic disk failure on a Mac using venti. Two days ago I spent $137 on a 1TB external USB disk. I now have an

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-09-30 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Sep 30 13:51:19 EDT 2011, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: > > When non-plan9 people ask me this question I tell them to get an external > > disk and use Time Machine. > > I would tell it to Plan9 folks as well. There is no way to > recover from a catestrophic disk failure on a Mac using venti. >

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-09-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
> backup: > 1. power down mac. remove hard drive. > 2. stuff drive as one gigantic file into venti. > > restore: > 1. copy your backup onto drive > 2. install hard drive. power up mac. Disassembling the machine every night to back it up is not on.

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-09-30 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Sep 30 15:22:19 EDT 2011, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: > > backup: > > 1. power down mac. remove hard drive. > > 2. stuff drive as one gigantic file into venti. > > > > restore: > > 1. copy your backup onto drive > > 2. install hard drive. power up mac. > > Disassembling the machine ever

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-09-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
> how come you keep changing the parameters after you get > in-principle solutions? :-) Ask the guys who make those crappy hard disk ball bearings. They are the ones who keep changing the parameters :-P

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-09-30 Thread Latchesar Ionkov
At work, I use Time Machine to a Linux server, then vac the Time Machine files to venti. At home, I just use Time Machine to a Linux server. I am planning to add the vac to venti at some point. Thanks, Lucho On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Axel Belinfante wrote: > Just curious what 9fans us

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-09-30 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Sep 30 15:46:25 EDT 2011, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: > > how come you keep changing the parameters after you get > > in-principle solutions? :-) > > Ask the guys who make those crappy hard disk ball bearings. > They are the ones who keep changing the parameters :-P there are no hard drives

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-09-30 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
What I do is to consider the macs as volatile. Very much like "firmware". All the stuff I care about is in our main file server. I might either use my files using the octopus or just cache them in the local disk of the mac when I need that. To recover such "firmware", yes, I use an external disk a

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-09-30 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:19:26 +0200 Axel Belinfante wrote: > Just curious what 9fans use, for home and/or work, to backup their macs. I use Time machine on zfs + freebsd + netatalk. [Broken ATM since the Lion uprgade. Need to update to netatalk-2.2.1] > context: we are reconsidering how to do t

Re: [9fans] cocoa devdraw

2011-09-30 Thread Micah Stetson
> I'm seeing missing recipes.  Lion and XCode 4.2 I get nearly identical output on Snow Leopard with XCode 4.0.2 (see below). BUT if I manually copy o.devdraw from $PLAN9/src/cmd/devdraw to $PLAN9/bin/devdraw, nearly everything seems to work. The best part (for me) is that now my acme and 9term w