Re: [9fans] dns SRV records

2011-04-29 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
Greate example ! :) Thanks :) 2011/4/29 Benjamin Huntsman : >>Investigating the possibility of replacing the MS DNS on Plan9 DNS,not found >>in the man ndb mention of records of type SRV. >>It is necessary to support Microsoft Active Directory. Maybe I missed >>something? >>http://en.wikipedia.o

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread Charles Forsyth
> [1] For those gnashing teeth over glibc - might want to check out > musl libc.  It's no plan 9 libc, but it's definitely "less worse" than glibc. ``News: As of version 0.7.7, musl has been successfully bootstrapped by a third-party system integrator.'' hmm. they had to do more than just compil

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread Charles Forsyth
> complaining is because you _need_ linux... to furnish all the things > you can't do with plan 9 - either personally, or within your organization. it's true, but at least i haven't got to run either Windows or MacOS. the underlying problem is that the things we might simply import (mainly brows

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread dexen deVries
On Friday 29 of April 2011 11:18:26 Charles Forsyth wrote: > > complaining is because you _need_ linux... to furnish all the things > > you can't do with plan 9 - either personally, or within your > > organization. > > it's true, but at least i haven't got to run either Windows or MacOS. > the und

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread Charles Forsyth
>let's abstract away differences between platforms but they don't `abstract away': they enumerate them.

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:12:55AM +0200, dexen deVries wrote: > > qmake (Qt's makefile generator) is mostly reasonable IMHO. consists of one > program (the qmake) which reads a rather simple project description > (<>.pro) plus a bunch of platform description files > (/usr/lib{,64}/qt/mkspec/<>

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread dexen deVries
On Friday 29 of April 2011 11:44:31 tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > I don't know if there are black holes in the nature. But for sure mob > programming has managed to create computer ones; projects so bloated > that they are absorbing all the resources around with an emitted service > dimming more an

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread errno
On Friday, April 29, 2011 02:04:26 AM Charles Forsyth wrote: > > [1] For those gnashing teeth over glibc - might want to check out > > musl libc. It's no plan 9 libc, but it's definitely "less worse" than > > glibc. > > ``News: As of version 0.7.7, musl has been successfully bootstrapped by a > t

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread Jacob Todd
On Apr 29, 2011 6:21 AM, "errno" wrote: > > On Friday, April 29, 2011 02:04:26 AM Charles Forsyth wrote: > > > [1] For those gnashing teeth over glibc - might want to check out > > > musl libc. It's no plan 9 libc, but it's definitely "less worse" than > > > glibc. > > > > ``News: As of version 0

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread erik quanstrom
> But then again, why would anyone want a fully functional web experience > on Plan 9 - what would be the purpose? Apparently nobody does, otherwise > it'd be implemented already. that's not logical. and from another post > Until then, complaining about de-facto linux bloat is a lot like co

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 GSoC projects selected

2011-04-29 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 27 Apr 2011, at 6:47 pm, Anthony Sorace wrote: • Unification of X11 code and wsys device, by Jesús Galán López [1] [...] [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/ gsoc2011/yiyus/1 I'm a bit curious about this one but all I get from the link is "This proposal is n

[9fans] lenovo or other laptop support

2011-04-29 Thread EBo
I remember hearing that some of the lenovo's thinkpads have good plan 9 support. Does anyone have a list of laptop models that are known to work with at least the basics (video, net, and maybe even sound)? Thanks, EBo --

Re: [9fans] dns SRV records

2011-04-29 Thread Sergey Kornilovich
I took your example without any changes. But unfortunately it still does not return the correct value of srv hostname ... For example: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nslookup Default Server: rit.com Address: 192.168.0.190 > server 192.168.0.193 > set q=srv > _ldap._tcp.testad.test.local S

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 GSoC projects selected

2011-04-29 Thread yy
2011/4/29 Ethan Grammatikidis : > > On 27 Apr 2011, at 6:47 pm, Anthony Sorace wrote: >> >> • Unification of X11 code and wsys device, by Jesús Galán López [1] > > [...] >> >> [1] >> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/yiyus/1 > > I'm a bit curious about this one but

Re: [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)

2011-04-29 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 28 Apr 2011, at 1:11 pm, Digby Tarvin wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:58:01AM +0200, Peter A. Cejchan wrote: spaces in filenames.. does not it break the rules?? Who actually needs them?? Well, for one thing it's much more natural to type a space than a hyphen or an underscore. For a

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 GSoC projects selected

2011-04-29 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 29 Apr 2011, at 2:22 pm, yy wrote: You can read a short abstract here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/yiyus/22001 The main idea is to avoid the duplication of xlib dependent code in inferno, p9p, 9vx and drawterm and write a wsys device to use the window manager

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 GSoC projects selected

2011-04-29 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > > On 27 Apr 2011, at 6:47 pm, Anthony Sorace wrote: >> >> • Unification of X11 code and wsys device, by Jesús Galán López [1] > [...] >> >> [1] >> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/yiyus/1 > > I'm a bi

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Apr 29, 2011, at 4:54 AM, dexen deVries wrote: > at any rate, `code removed is code debugged' is very true, but that's not > something easily put on CV or boasted to friends. An alternative version, `deleted code is debugged code', has been used very successfully by myself and other collea

Re: [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)

2011-04-29 Thread erik quanstrom
> Parsing the output of programs which return filenames is the only > common case where I see any complexity from spaces, and then the > complexity only consists of setting and reverting $ifs. Granted that > could be smoother still, especially where you want a big file list in > for(). be

Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support

2011-04-29 Thread ron minnich
we've had good luck recently with x300 and x61 ron

Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support

2011-04-29 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:31 AM, ron minnich wrote: > we've had good luck recently with x300 and x61 > > ron > > x201 tablet also works. John

Re: [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)

2011-04-29 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 29 Apr 2011, at 3:00 pm, erik quanstrom wrote: Parsing the output of programs which return filenames is the only common case where I see any complexity from spaces, and then the complexity only consists of setting and reverting $ifs. Granted that could be smoother still, especially where you

Re: [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)

2011-04-29 Thread erik quanstrom
> I always change it back immediately; a nuisance in for() as it has to > be set before and re-set inside. I'm considering whether a new shell > builtin would be desirable, similar to ` but always splitting on > newlines and only newlines, regardless of $ifs. this is one thing that byron understo

Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support

2011-04-29 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
everything but the wifi works on T61p and X200. -Skip On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:43 AM, John Floren wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:31 AM, ron minnich wrote: >> we've had good luck recently with x300 and x61 >> >> ron >> >> > > x201 tablet also works. > > > John > >

[9fans] An acme question

2011-04-29 Thread Bakul Shah
Here's something for a brief respite from linux bashing In acme, at present a single click positions the cursor, a double click selects either the word under the cursor or the entire line, depending on the cursor position. What I would like to do is to the change logic as follows: If you doub

Re: [9fans] An acme question

2011-04-29 Thread ron minnich
It sort of does that now, if you double click to (e.g.) immediately to the right of { or the left of } it selects the block, multi-line or not. Is this sufficient for you or did I miss something? ron

Re: [9fans] An acme question

2011-04-29 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Bakul Shah wrote: > Here's something for a brief respite from linux bashing > > In acme, at present a single click positions the cursor, a > double click selects either the word under the cursor or the > entire line, depending on the cursor position. > > What I

Re: [9fans] An acme question

2011-04-29 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:16:17 PDT ron minnich wrote: > It sort of does that now, if you double click to (e.g.) immediately to > the right of { or the left of } it selects the block, multi-line or > not. Is this sufficient for you or did I miss something? It is not quite what I want. 1) You have t

Re: [9fans] An acme question

2011-04-29 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:28:06 PDT John Floren wrote: > > Acme can already do most of those things, except that when you double > click on the space between two words ("foo bar"). Since you can't > really click on a character, rather you can only click between two > characters, it ends up selectin

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread Iruatã Souza
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:19 AM, errno wrote: > so I'm just speculating.) > really? no one has noticed.

Re: [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)

2011-04-29 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:17 -0400, "erik quanstrom" wrote: > > I always change it back immediately; a nuisance in for() as it has to > > be set before and re-set inside. I'm considering whether a new shell > > builtin would be desirable, similar to ` but always splitting on > > newlines and only

Re: [9fans] An acme question

2011-04-29 Thread smiley
Bakul Shah writes: > Example: given > > { fee [({ foo bar}) [and so on]] } >1 2 3456 7 > > Double clicking at 1 selects foo, > at 2 or 3 selects the phrase { foo bar}, > at 4 selects the phrase ({ foo bar}), > at 5 selects the phrase [({ foo bar}) [and so on]], > at 6 sele

Re: [9fans] An acme question

2011-04-29 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM, wrote: > Bakul Shah writes: > >> Example: given >> >> { fee [({ foo bar}) [and so on]] } >>            1 2   3456           7 >> >> Double clicking at 1 selects foo, >> at 2 or 3 selects the phrase { foo bar}, >> at 4 selects the phrase ({ foo bar}), >> at 5 sele

Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support

2011-04-29 Thread geoff
The T410 mostly works: ethernet, (vesa) video, lower-speed usb. It has two EHCI controllers and that seems to interfere with high-speed usb so far. Haven't tried wifi but I wouldn't expect it to work.

Re: [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)

2011-04-29 Thread erik quanstrom
> > this is one thing that byron understood in his version of rc. > > he had > > x=``ifs {cmd} > > the `` was required since `singleton was allowed in his version. > > i think that one could just extend the grammar to allow > > x=`ifs {cmd} > > and i think it would be even better if it were

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 GSoC projects selected

2011-04-29 Thread errno
On Friday, April 29, 2011 05:43:21 AM Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On 27 Apr 2011, at 6:47 pm, Anthony Sorace wrote: > > • Unification of X11 code and wsys device, by Jesús Galán López [1] > > [...] > > > [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/ > > gsoc2011/yiyus/1 > > I'm

Re: [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)

2011-04-29 Thread smiley
erik quanstrom writes: >> within the {} ? I guess that risks breaking any scripts you might want >> to run as cmd, so yeah, the 3rd looks good. > > i implemented the 3d this evening in a compatable way with > Traditional Rc. there's an argument that it's not completely Did you include an abilit

Re: [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)

2011-04-29 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> Did you include an ability to split on the null string, to divide the > data into individual characters/runes? > > /me crosses his fingers... | sed 's/(.)/\1 /g'

Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support

2011-04-29 Thread Jeff Sickel
I've got a T23 that use to work great. The battery's definitely been a problem lately, but that's what wall warts are for! On Apr 29, 2011, at 6:46 PM, ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > The T410 mostly works: ethernet, (vesa) video, lower-speed usb. > It has two EHCI controllers and that seems

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread errno
On Friday, April 29, 2011 05:21:12 AM Jacob Todd wrote: > Seeing that plan 9 doesn't have a c++ compiler, i doubt it will ever be > ported. > But APE has c++ (old version of gcc though). I expect that a webkit (or gecko) port would need to rely on APE, right? I guess I'd have to start with t

Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support

2011-04-29 Thread smiley
Jeff Sickel writes: > I've got a T23 that use to work great. The battery's definitely been > a problem lately, but that's what wall warts are for! I have a T23, and Plan 9 works OK on it, except that I need to boot with sdC0dma=1 and can't seem to figure out how to get audio working. The machi

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread errno
On Friday, April 29, 2011 09:05:39 PM errno wrote: > Yep, I'm aware of the vnc workaround... but, it's just the same as > a native, or near-native approach. > I meant: "[...] but, it's just _not_ the same as a native approach."

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-29 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Apr 30, 2011, at 12:05 AM, errno wrote: > But APE has c++ (old version of gcc though). APE has no c++. there is a very old version of gcc floating around on sources that can, with some effort, sometimes be made to compile things. > I expect that a webkit (or gecko) port would need to rely on