Re: [9fans] Additional compilers under 9vx.OSX

2011-04-21 Thread Greg Comeau
In article <90f71fcedeb5b45a5bed515862b8a...@hamnavoe.com>, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: >> 1) If it is upgraded to latest version of Snow Leopard (I think 10.6.3?), >>will anything regarding 9vx.OSX break? > >As far as I can tell, 9vx works fine on MacOSX 10.6.7. Just a note tha

Re: [9fans] Additional compilers under 9vx.OSX

2011-04-21 Thread Greg Comeau
In article , Greg Comeau wrote: >In article , >Greg Comeau wrote: >>As mentioned in a post yesterday, we seem to have succeeded in getting >>5c et al built. However, in resuming playing around at least one case >>/bin/ape/sh is producing: >> >>./command-name[3]: other-command-name: cannot execut

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread Balwinder S Dheeman
On 04/16/11 23:49, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > Linux has slowly become Windows-lite Whatsoever it is, though GNU sucks, but the GNU/Linux is dominating the markets: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/19762-The-Linux-Microsoft-war-over.html -- Balwinder S "bdheeman" DheemanRegistered Li

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread smiley
erik quanstrom writes: >> It's not that obvious to me. A hard link is another name for a file, >> uniquely identified by . > > how do you specify the device? you can't without giving up > on per-process-group namespaces. i don't think there's any > way to uniquely identify a device except th

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:32 AM, wrote: > I got the impression, from what I read, that the kernel driver chooses > the device number. what's a device number and why would we need one? ron

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread smiley
Bakul Shah writes: > Ask yourself *why* do you need it. Is it just convenience > (what you are used to) or is there something you do that > absolutely requires hard links? Next compare the benefit > of hardlinks to their cost. It is worth it? I'm trying to create a data structure in the form of

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:44 AM, wrote: > I'm trying to create a data structure in the form of a directed acyclic > graph (DAG).  A file system would be an ideal way to represent the data, > except that P9 exposes no transaction to give a node more than one name. warning: i'm going to try to ta

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:44:32 - smi...@zenzebra.mv.com wrote: > Bakul Shah writes: > > > Ask yourself *why* do you need it. Is it just convenience > > (what you are used to) or is there something you do that > > absolutely requires hard links? Next compare the benefit > > of hardlinks to thei

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread Richard Miller
> You can overlay your naming > FS on top of an existing disk based FS. In effect each named > file in this naming FS maps to a "canonical name" of a disk > based file. You can implement linking via a ctl file or > something. Is lnfs(4) a relevant example?

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:17:21 BST Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > You can overlay your naming > > FS on top of an existing disk based FS. In effect each named > > file in this naming FS maps to a "canonical name" of a disk > > based file. You can implement linking via a ctl file or

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread erik quanstrom
> IIRC companies such as Panasas separate file names and other > metadata from file storage. One way to get a single FS > namespace that spans multiple disks or nodes for increasing > data redundancy, file size beyond the largest disk size, > throughput (and yes, complexity). that certainly does s

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:41 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> IIRC companies such as Panasas separate file names and other >> metadata from file storage. One way to get a single FS >> namespace that spans multiple disks or nodes for increasing >> data redundancy, file size beyond the largest disk size

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:17:50 PDT ron minnich wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:41 PM, erik quanstrom > wrote: > >> IIRC companies such as Panasas separate file names and other > >> metadata from file storage. One way to get a single FS > >> namespace that spans multiple disks or nodes for incre

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread erik quanstrom
> > that certainly does seem like the hard way to do things. > > why should the structure of the data depend on where it's > > located?  certainly ken's fs doesn't change the format of > > the worm if you concatinate several devices for the worm > > or use just one. > > This would be a long discus

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:55 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > could you please clarify?  i'm not following along. I'm at the end of a long day and not able to write a good explanation of what they are thinking. :-) ron

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-21 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Apr 21 20:01:54 EDT 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:55 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > could you please clarify?  i'm not following along. > > I'm at the end of a long day and not able to write a good explanation > of what they are thinking. :-) no problems.