[9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-23 Thread Dimitry Golubovsky
Great, thanks Russ. I have two suggestions for ape minor additions arising from my recent attempts to run configure scripts on Plan9 1. Add this script (suggested by Russ) as /rc/bin/ape/egrep #!/bin/rc if(~ $1 -E) shift exec grep $* 2. Make ls accept -i option (if inode numbers do not exists i

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Oct 22 22:54:41 EDT 2009, eri...@gmail.com wrote: > Everyone is busy drinking and debating protocol semantics. I think > we've managed to empty the coraid fridge of beer. skip, sorry about that. we drank all your beer. - erik

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> "In the cloud architecture it's Services all the way down" at least till mack sneezes. - erik

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread W B Hacker
erik quanstrom wrote: On Thu Oct 22 22:54:41 EDT 2009, eri...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone is busy drinking and debating protocol semantics. I think we've managed to empty the coraid fridge of beer. skip, sorry about that. we drank all your beer. - erik Tsk, Tsk, ..and here some of us th

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-23 Thread Jason Catena
Dimitry wrote: > I have two suggestions for ape minor additions arising from my recent > attempts to run configure scripts on Plan9 > > These things are needed by autoconf. > > Looks like these > things are hardwired in the autoconf macro library. Since autoconf should deal with "any" unixy enviro

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-23 Thread Charles Forsyth
it's /rc/bin/ape/ls that would change, not Plan 9's ls-proper. what does autoconf do with the `inode number'?

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread David Leimbach
on the contrary... I have always equated the plan 9 crowd as the "most punkrock" of the alternative OS crowd. On 10/23/09, W B Hacker wrote: > erik quanstrom wrote: >> On Thu Oct 22 22:54:41 EDT 2009, eri...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Everyone is busy drinking and debating protocol semantics. I thin

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread W B Hacker
David Leimbach wrote: on the contrary... I have always equated the plan 9 crowd as the "most punkrock" of the alternative OS crowd. On 10/23/09, W B Hacker wrote: erik quanstrom wrote: On Thu Oct 22 22:54:41 EDT 2009, eri...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone is busy drinking and debating protocol

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> skip, sorry about that. we drank all your beer. > > - erik fantastic!

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-23 Thread W B Hacker
Charles Forsyth wrote: it's /rc/bin/ape/ls that would change, not Plan 9's ls-proper. what does autoconf do with the `inode number'? Haven't you heard of the elephant that escaped from a traveling circus and wandered into the vegetable garden of a lady who had never seen an elephant in her

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread Brantley Coile
You even bought Oberon beer. It was good! iPhone email On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: skip, sorry about that. we drank all your beer. - erik fantastic!

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-23 Thread Federico G. Benavento
I have no idea, but I know that removing the -i switch from configure gets it going, so just ignoring it should be good enough On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > it's /rc/bin/ape/ls that would change, not Plan 9's ls-proper. > > what does autoconf do with the `inode number

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-23 Thread Dmitry Golubovsky
Charles, On Oct 23, 10:40 am, fors...@terzarima.net (Charles Forsyth) wrote: > it's /rc/bin/ape/ls that would change, not Plan 9's ls-proper. Of course ape's one. As well as I am proposing to add egrep to ape's tree not Plan9's native tree. > what does autoconf do with the `inode number'? In f

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-23 Thread Jason Catena
> Jason: I understand your reasoning. However if two small fixes would > unblock execution of many projects' configure on Plan9 IMHO they are > worth making; they won't break anything. I wasn't going to comment again on this, since it's ape's tools, not the plan9 versions. I was obviously mistake

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
I'm so envious :-( Sent from the hotel in China :-) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > Everyone is busy drinking and debating protocol semantics.  I think we've > managed to empty the coraid fridge of beer. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Mic

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-23 Thread Tim Newsham
Jason: I understand your reasoning. However if two small fixes would unblock execution of many projects' configure on Plan9 IMHO they are worth making; they won't break anything. What if you just made a command "gnuconfig" which rewrote the configure script, fixing the minor defects, and ran the

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-23 Thread Jason Catena
> What if you just made a command "gnuconfig" which rewrote the > configure script, fixing the minor defects, and ran the result? I wrote an rc script (vary http://codereview.appspot.com/117087/diff/1/2) which generally applies a sam script to a file (via ssam http://codereview.appspot.com/95076/d

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread Michaelian Ennis
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: >> skip, sorry about that.  we drank all your beer. >> >> - erik > > fantastic! Thanks for the beer Skip!

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-23 Thread Federico G. Benavento
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/fgb/rc/config hacks configure and mostly gets it going for egrep and fgrep aux/stub /bin/egrep bind /bin/grep /bin/egrep On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Tim Newsham wrote: >> Jason: I understand your reasoning. However if two small fixes would >> unbl

Re: [9fans] iwp9 video (was: iwp9 deadline extension)

2009-10-23 Thread Federico G. Benavento
eric, thanks for broadcasting it On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > Okay - still not sure there is going to be enough bandwidth to pull > off livestreaming, but I'm going to attempt it.  The URL to check will > be http://www.livestream.com/iwp9 starting at 9pm US EST.  

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread Brian L. Stuart
> > on the contrary...  I have always equated the > plan 9 crowd as the > > "most punkrock" of the alternative OS crowd. Yar dude! You should have seen the totally bitchin' mosh pit at today's sessions. It was EXTREME! Man, 3 dudes had to be taking to the hospital. But it's all good. Two of t

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread dave . l
I would suggest that we're the most eclectic. Try having a conversation with a bunch of 9fans that doesn't encompass several millennia of culture, technology etc. Also I'm fairly certain that a disproportionately large number of 9fans aren't CS grads. As with Un*x, it's the people who recog

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread David Leimbach
That basically encompasses what I meant by "punkrock" :-). On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:31 PM, wrote: > I would suggest that we're the most eclectic. > > Try having a conversation with a bunch of 9fans that doesn't encompass > several millennia of culture, technology etc. > > Also I'm fairly certa

[9fans] Plan 9 & VirtualBox

2009-10-23 Thread Sam'l B
Is anyone working on making them play nice together? Is it possible, even? I get slightly farther with VirtualBox on Vista Home Basic than on Fedora 11, but then things come to a complete halt. Sam'l B. (User, not Programmer)

Re: [9fans] iwp9 video (was: iwp9 deadline extension)

2009-10-23 Thread james toy
Agreed, much appreciated. I got the flu after booking the entire trip, it was to be my first time at iwp9 :(. At least I was able to see. Will the sessions be available for download? =jt On 2009-10-23, Federico G. Benavento wrote: > eric, thanks for broadcasting it > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 a

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-23 Thread W B Hacker
David Leimbach wrote: That basically encompasses what I meant by "punkrock" :-). Hang on, mate! We can't 'ave two 9'ers actually *agree* on sumat! disturbs the karma an' short-circuits the exploration of alternatives.. ;-) Bill On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:31 PM, wrote: I would suggest

[9fans] Plan9 awk vs. GNU awk

2009-10-23 Thread Dimitry Golubovsky
Hi, Working through the autoconf stuff I came across another issue: Plan9 awk does not seem to recognize a regexp that GNU awk does. This results in config.status not properly creating config.h file based on the configure's findings. The regexp in the test program was extracted from config.status.

Re: [9fans] Plan9 awk vs. GNU awk

2009-10-23 Thread michael block
try using [_a-zA-Z][_a-zA-Z0-9] rather than the expanded form. i didn't track it down to be sure, but plan 9 awk seem to have a limit 34 characters inside square brackets. a rather odd number cpu% echo hello | awk '/^[abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGH].+/ { line = $0 ; print line }' cpu% echo hel

Re: [9fans] iwp9 video (was: iwp9 deadline extension)

2009-10-23 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
i didnt realize broadcast video will be this good. i started watching only today and it was nice to watch it live. looks like session videos will be available pretty soon. dharani On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:36 PM, james toy wrote: > Agreed, much appreciated. I got the flu after booking the ent