[9fans] Where do I find...

2009-02-05 Thread Keith Thompson
Where's the FAQ for this newsgroup? Thanks.

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: > On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:58 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > >> also, can you please remove debugging output from 9fans? > > What do you mean? Could you paste the raw text data for one of my emails? > PGP for Mac Mail hides everything. > > may

Re: [9fans] Some arithmetic [was: Re: Sources Gone?]

2009-02-05 Thread Dave Eckhardt
>> Assuming SHA-1 is indeed cryptographically secure (which is the >> assumption made by the venti paper) > > Well, I read it like it was just sufficiently secure against > unintended collisions. > > It's not intended to encrypt, but to efficiently store data. While SHA-1 is indeed not intended t

Re: [9fans] Where do I find...

2009-02-05 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:32, Keith Thompson wrote: Where's the FAQ for this newsgroup? Thanks. No dedicated FAQ for this mailing list that I know of, but there's a Plan 9 FAQ on the wiki at http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/ FAQ/ . Cheers Robert

Re: [9fans] Vac using gobs of RAM?

2009-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
> I am running the admittedly somewhat odd vac command > > phlogiston% vac \ > > -d ... -q \ > > -f ... \ > > -h ... \ > > -e acme/acid/386 -e acme/acid/alpha -e acme/acid/arm \ > > -e acme/acid/mips -e acme/acid/power -e acme/bin/386 \ > > -e acme/bin/alpha -e acme/bin/a

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
> > What do you mean? Could you paste the raw text data for one of my > emails? PGP for Mac Mail hides everything. > i considered adding code to upas to at least strip pgp nonesense from message bodies. but this would require upas to know things about what message bodies look like after mime

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Joel C. Salomon
erik quanstrom wrote: > next we'll be replacing :-) (':' '-' ')' for those with impaired mail readers) with a jpeg. This is Plan 9: replace it with ☺. —Joel

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Uriel
That was even faster than I expected. Thanks Russ! uriel P.S.: Silly question, why is du(1) not built by default in p9p? The code already there seems to work as far as I can tell.. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Russ Cox wrote: > Sed is fixed in plan9port. > > $ hg diff sed.c > diff -r 478b538

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
> erik quanstrom wrote: > > next we'll be replacing :-) (':' '-' ')' for those with impaired mail > readers) with a jpeg. > > This is Plan 9: replace it with ☺. clearly. " tcs -f emoticon" anyone? ☺ the point i'm trying to make is that "☺" is not the same as :-). i find it irritating that some

[9fans] processing mail bodies

2009-02-05 Thread Steve Simon
> i considered adding code to upas to at least > strip pgp nonesense from message bodies. but this > would require upas to know things about what > message bodies look like after mime is done with > them. FWIW I have several sources of mail which have large, unnecessary disclaimers, adverts, sign

Re: [9fans] processing mail bodies

2009-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
> FWIW I have several sources of mail which have large, unnecessary disclaimers, > adverts, signatures etc on them. I have a serise of test in > /mail/box/steve/pipeto > along the lines of: > > if (grep -s 'Forum Subscription New Topic Notification' $D/subject){ > bin/powerboa

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Russ Cox
> P.S.: Silly question, why is du(1) not built by default in p9p? The > code already there seems to work as far as I can tell.. It's a long story, dating back to when the standard mode of operation was to put $PLAN9/bin ahead of the system binaries in your $PATH. In that context it didn't make se

Re: [9fans] Some arithmetic [was: Re: Sources Gone?]

2009-02-05 Thread Russ Cox
Even if venti scores are completely unguessable, using them as an authentication mechanism is a mistake, because you can't change them. It would be like having a fixed, unchangeable password assigned to your account: once the password leaked out into the world, one way or another, you'd have no way

Re: [9fans] Some arithmetic [was: Re: Sources Gone?]

2009-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
> http://www.google.com/search?q="09+f9"; is that a legal url? - erik

Re: [9fans] Some arithmetic [was: Re: Sources Gone?]

2009-02-05 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 12:41 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: > > http://www.google.com/search?q="09+f9"; > > is that a legal url? I don't think it is a legal URL, but most browsers will turn it into a legal one before issuing a GET request. Thanks, Roman. P.S. Or am I missing some kind of a joke h

Re: [9fans] Some arithmetic [was: Re: Sources Gone?]

2009-02-05 Thread Micah Stetson
>> > http://www.google.com/search?q="09+f9"; >> >> is that a legal url? > > P.S. Or am I missing some kind of a joke here? ;-) Intentional or not, it's a very good joke. Micah

Re: [9fans] Some arithmetic [was: Re: Sources Gone?]

2009-02-05 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 10:22 -0800, Micah Stetson wrote: > >> > http://www.google.com/search?q="09+f9"; > >> > >> is that a legal url? > > > > P.S. Or am I missing some kind of a joke here? ;-) > > Intentional or not, it's a very good joke. but...but...erik always adds that look-i-am-using-plan9-s

Re: [9fans] Some arithmetic [was: Re: Sources Gone?]

2009-02-05 Thread hiro
>> http://www.google.com/search?q="09+f9"; > > is that a legal url? > > - erik fortune worthy :D

Re: [9fans] Some arithmetic [was: Re: Sources Gone?]

2009-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
> but...but...erik always adds that look-i-am-using-plan9-smiley > to all of his jokes. i'm so confused... i do? i guess ya learn something every day. - erik

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I misunderstood what they meant by "debugging." PGP is doing nothing wrong; I thought there was debugging info in the email. On Feb 5, 2009, at 8:16 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: What do you mean? Could you paste the raw text data for one of my ema

[9fans] ata au naturel

2009-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
the sd raw file is one of the really cool things about plan 9. while the raw file works pretty well on ata devices, there are some things you can't get. so i spent a little bit working out this problem. there is a paper at http://www.quanstro.net/plan9/atazz.pdf i promise this link is legal. it

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread john
> I misunderstood what they meant by "debugging." PGP is doing nothing > wrong; I thought there was debugging info in the email. > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 8:16 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > >>> >>> What do you mean? Could you paste the raw text data for one of my >>> emails? PGP for Mac Mail hides e

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread erik quanstrom
> I misunderstood what they meant by "debugging." PGP is doing nothing > wrong; I thought there was debugging info in the email. imho, it is against the spirit of MIME to put encoded data in a text/plain body. your other post points out why funky non-standard encodings are a problem. it would

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Uriel
Cool, thanks again! uriel On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Russ Cox wrote: >> P.S.: Silly question, why is du(1) not built by default in p9p? The >> code already there seems to work as far as I can tell.. > > It's a long story, dating back to when the standard mode of > operation was to put $PLAN

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Akshat Kumar
2009/2/4 Pietro Gagliardi : > PGP for Mac Mail hides everything. upas and GMail have this capability also, but you might find it more favourable to simply consider others on the list, as well as the worth of the information you decide to include. filter: from: pietr...@mac.com *Delete* ak

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread hiro
>> PGP for Mac Mail hides everything. > > upas and GMail have this capability also, but you might No, I ecperience the same annoying PGP SIGNATURE stuff on gmail.

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Akshat Kumar
2009/2/5 hiro <23h...@googlemail.com>: >>> PGP for Mac Mail hides everything. >> >> upas and GMail have this capability also, but you might > > No, I ecperience the same annoying PGP SIGNATURE stuff on gmail. > > hiding falls out naturally from automated filtration/deletion

Re: [9fans] pull doesn't work due to unavailable sources; travelmate 291LCi specials

2009-02-05 Thread Akshat Kumar
2009/1/28 Dave Eckhardt : > The one written by CMU students has been tested on a bunch > of Intel hardware and knows how to work around busted > motherboards which don't clock samples at the right rate > (apparently this was popular at some point). > > The other one has better code quality, and wil