Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Pavel Klinkovsky
> What's -0x11 ? The ugly way how to filter-out the key "Insert". Pavel

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread matt
Eris Discordia wrote: What'd you say if you had my keyboard? I'd say "yay, she can't type any more of that goddam shite" j/k :>

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread matt
Eris Discordia wrote: What'd you say if you had my keyboard? I *and* what would you say if you had mine ? http://www.proweb.co.uk/~matt/maltron.jpg

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread Anthony Sorace
i'd say "short read reading ", apparently.

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread matt
Anthony Sorace wrote: i'd say "short read reading ", apparently. hmm fixed

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread John Waters
> What'd you say if you had my keyboard? I I would say that I need to find some more activities for your key.

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 22:35 -0800, Akshat Kumar wrote: > 2009/1/26 Roman Shaposhnik : > ... > > Yeah, that's about the only thing that is useful to me > > as well. The rest requires too much mousing around > > and in general it is quicker for me to compose the > > command line anew rather than tryi

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread erik quanstrom
> I often wished rio windows had "Find Prev" "Find Next" > functionality so that at least I can navigate all that > text that it holds simply with my mouse. http://9fans.net/archive/2006/08/366 - erik

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 15:10 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: > > I often wished rio windows had "Find Prev" "Find Next" > > functionality so that at least I can navigate all that > > text that it holds simply with my mouse. > > http://9fans.net/archive/2006/08/366 Interesting! Two questions though:

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 23:09 -0800, Russ Cox wrote: > > Do you enjoy mouse editing? May be I'm just an old > > TTY junkie, but for me mouse is a device that lets me > > switch between Xterms with screens(1) in them ;-) > > This particular topic has been discussed to death in the past. It sure was

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread Eris Discordia
Late bloomers, eh? I wrote that... lemme see... more than two weeks ago and I get responses now?! By the way, you have an utterly strange, yet totally fascinating, keyboard, matt. Why exactly does it have to be shaped like that? I mean, are you using a Maltron because you are an ergonomics buf

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Christopher Nielsen
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 14:12, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 23:09 -0800, Russ Cox wrote: >> > Do you enjoy mouse editing? May be I'm just an old >> > TTY junkie, but for me mouse is a device that lets me >> > switch between Xterms with screens(1) in them ;-) >> >> This partic

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 14:25 -0800, Christopher Nielsen wrote: > > ... I've seen this study and I tend to believe it. But there's a gotcha: > > the kind of work that I and other software engineers do with computers > > is almost orthogonal to what the study was focusing on. I don't believe > > anybo

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread erik quanstrom
> Interesting! Two questions though: >1. Do you still have it? 'cause: > term% ls /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/9term* > ls: /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/9term*: > '/n/sources/contrib/quanstro/9term*' does not exist they have moved to the p9p directory /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/p9p/9t

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread Akshat Kumar
2009/1/27 Eris Discordia : ... > Why exactly does it have to be shaped like that? I mean, are you using > a Maltron because ... > http://www.maltron.com/maltron-kbd-single.html with the left, I feel and touch with the right, I coordinate for Plan 9, I was designed ak

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Christopher Nielsen
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 14:31, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 14:25 -0800, Christopher Nielsen wrote: >> > ... I've seen this study and I tend to believe it. But there's a gotcha: >> > the kind of work that I and other software engineers do with computers >> > is almost orthogo

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 14:43 -0800, Christopher Nielsen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 14:31, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 14:25 -0800, Christopher Nielsen wrote: > >> > ... I've seen this study and I tend to believe it. But there's a gotcha: > >> > the kind of work that I

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread sqweek
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:26 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > supposedly, using nobs for a pager and setting the > term to dumb is enough. evidently, i'm doing it > wrong. python tools just love spitting out goofy > escapes. rm /usr/lib/python*/lib-dynload/readline.so -sqweek

Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?

2009-01-27 Thread Uriel
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 3:54 PM, wrote: > Hm, about as bad as when a couple of days ago I left replica/pull > running overnight and came back next morning to find that even /bin/ls > had disappeared. You are not the only one to have woken up with such pleasant surprise several times. > Maybe so

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread sqweek
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > I don't believe anybody else, but engineers, spend > the majority of time dealing with text. code is text. data is text. -sqweek

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread Jonas Amoson
> By the way, you have an utterly strange, yet totally fascinating, keyboard, > matt. Why exactly does it have to be shaped like that? I mean, are you > using a Maltron because you are an ergonomics buff or because you have to? Of course he uses one because it looks like something from outer sp

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Christopher Nielsen
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 14:50, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > > Are you a programmer? Care to give pointers to the projects you've > been on? I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you. Check the archives. > I get it! You are not a programmer -- you are a phone prankster. Uh . . . yeah

Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?

2009-01-27 Thread Patrick Kristiansen
I did a pull yesterday and it has removed all my /386/ and it is now unable to boot. boot: /386/init: '/386/init' does not exist panic: boot process died: unknown panic: boot process died: unknown dumpstack disabled cpu0: exiting Hints on how to restore are welcome -Patrick 2009/1/23 > >

Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?

2009-01-27 Thread Russ Cox
> But people keep telling me that replica's unreliability, painful > slowness, and general clunkyness, are all in my imagination, so what > do I know... No, what we've told you, repeatedly, is that whining about problems and fixing them are two different things. Fixes are appreciated. Russ

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 15:11 -0800, Christopher Nielsen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 14:50, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > > > > Are you a programmer? Care to give pointers to the projects you've > > been on? > > I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you. Check the archives. But you

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Jan 27 17:59:41 EST 2009, sqw...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:26 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > supposedly, using nobs for a pager and setting the > > term to dumb is enough. evidently, i'm doing it > > wrong. python tools just love spitting out goofy > > escapes. > > rm

Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?

2009-01-27 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
hi patrick, someone else can give a better answer for sure but let me give give a try here. (sorry if you know this already or if i have misunderstood your question). would reverting to an older fossil snapshot work for you? if so, you could do this (i have just outlined): - boot via cdrom - fi

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Anthony Sorace
Roman wrote: // 2. Has something like that ever made it into rio propper? // Or was the feature deemed to obscure to bother? years ago, someone put "Look" in the rio button two menu. the objection (at least the one i was told) was that it made the menu too long, which i think was true. some t

Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?

2009-01-27 Thread Kenji Arisawa
Hello, Several years ago I abandoned replica and switched to my own tool "upadate", but I hesitated to make it public because replica is so fundamental tools for Plan 9. The major problem is(was?) replica doesn't properly arrange update data-base before it begins to retrieve files. The la

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Jonas Amoson wrote: > it is quite hard to mistype on it... > yes, it is *also* hard to mistype on it. -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Christopher Nielsen
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 15:40, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > You told me to check the archives ;-) So I did. Maybe our definitions of 'pissing contest' differ. > And you lied too. I did? > How adorable. I aim to please and entertain. > Now, if you have something constructive to say, please sa

[9fans] Union mount directory behavior?

2009-01-27 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
I don't actually know if this is incorrect behavior, but it strikes me as funny: term% ramfs -m /n/ram1 term% ramfs -m /n/ram2 term% bind /n/ram1 /n/ram term% bind -a /n/ram2 /n/ram term% mkdir /n/ram1/test term% mkdir /n/ram2/test term% touch /n/ram1/test/foo term% touch /n/ram2/test/bar term% ls

Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?

2009-01-27 Thread Uriel
Mercurial and git solve all replica problems, and some more. They are infinitely faster, more reliable, and more useful. And in some ways they are even conceptually simpler (I never quite understood some of the most subtle points of replica, like why it keeps saying it needs to update files that w

Re: [9fans] Union mount directory behavior?

2009-01-27 Thread Russ Cox
> term% ramfs -m /n/ram1 > term% ramfs -m /n/ram2 > term% bind /n/ram1 /n/ram > term% bind -a /n/ram2 /n/ram > term% mkdir /n/ram1/test > term% mkdir /n/ram2/test > term% touch /n/ram1/test/foo > term% touch /n/ram2/test/bar > term% ls -l /n/ram > d-rwxrwxr-x M 47 nwf nwf 0 Jan 27 23:55 /n/ram/test

Re: [9fans] Small program "PlanKey" (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Eris Discordia
Eris has more sense in what she posts here. Having become _the_ criterion for making no sense gives me a certain sense of uniqueness I had never felt before. The therapy's working after all, Skip Tavakkolian. Don't mind this, by the way. It's off the topic of this thread. Or, in 9fans tradi

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread Eris Discordia
yes, it is *also* hard to mistype on it. Yeah, you have a point there. It's unimaginable to me how someone can type on that keyboard, but it seems some people do and do well. My question's target was whether it's because of a motor disability that matt uses a Maltron or out of personal choic