Re: [9fans] Embedded MIPS board

2008-12-23 Thread antonio....@gmail.com
On Dec 20, 3:46 pm, quans...@quanstro.net (erik quanstrom) wrote: > On Sat Dec 20 01:33:12 EST 2008, n...@cs.jhu.edu wrote: > > > Have people seenhttp://wiki.ubnt.com/wiki/index.php/RouterStation?  Any > > idea on what porting the kernel to this guy would be like? > > keine ahnung. > > i didn't see

Re: [9fans] rio startup fails in VMWare Fusion 2.0.0

2008-12-23 Thread Charles Forsyth
>tested so far, drawterm, 9vx are all so slow in updating inferno screen (i i tried running inferno in an 1152x900 x8r8g8b8 within 9vx. (the window is controlled by rio in 9vx but even then emu's draw operations go direct to the 9vx kernel via draw.) this is on a 1.2Ghz core duo on ubuntu 8.04.

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on Mac with Parallels Desktop 4.0 for Mac

2008-12-23 Thread Richard Miller
> But if you can tell parallels to use a different network > "card" it's worth a try. I don't think you can. It's RTL8029 (=ne2k) or nothing.

Re: [9fans] 9vx il has slight speed advantage

2008-12-23 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/23 erik quanstrom : > first from il > ; time cat gs>/dev/null > 0.00u 0.00s 9.70rcat gs > > next via tcp > ; time cat /386/bin/gs>/dev/null > 0.00u 0.00s 40.27r cat /386/bin/gs I wonder if this is because of the timer in 9vx being less granular and causing the TCP timer proce

Re: [9fans] 9vx il has slight speed advantage

2008-12-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> 2008/12/23 erik quanstrom : > > first from il > > ; time cat gs>/dev/null > > 0.00u 0.00s 9.70rcat gs > > > > next via tcp > > ; time cat /386/bin/gs>/dev/null > > 0.00u 0.00s 40.27r cat /386/bin/gs > > I wonder if this is because of the timer in 9vx being less granular > and causi

Re: [9fans] 9vx il has slight speed advantage

2008-12-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> 2008/12/23 erik quanstrom : > > first from il > > ; time cat gs>/dev/null > > 0.00u 0.00s 9.70rcat gs > > > > next via tcp > > ; time cat /386/bin/gs>/dev/null > > 0.00u 0.00s 40.27r cat /386/bin/gs > > I wonder if this is because of the timer in 9vx being less granular > and causi

[9fans] Cheap Native Plan9 ARM board?

2008-12-23 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
Hey guys, This was in my gmail ads this morning: http://www.glomationinc.com/ SBC ARM, 200MHz w/MMU, 32MB RAM, 128MB flash, Ethernet, Watchdog, RTC. Optional WiFi module over USB. $49 -- but that says `quantity' price. I don't know what it is at low quantity. I'll email. (Ok, I got the email. At

Re: [9fans] 9vx il has slight speed advantage

2008-12-23 Thread Russ Cox
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:32 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > first from il > ; time cat gs>/dev/null > 0.00u 0.00s 9.70rcat gs > > next via tcp > ; time cat /386/bin/gs>/dev/null > 0.00u 0.00s 40.27r cat /386/bin/gs what about the host tcp?

[9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-23 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
Is there any equivalent of sendfd() on native Plan 9? Thanks. --nwf; pgpCxPRdGX3TE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [9fans] 9vx il has slight speed advantage

2008-12-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:32 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> first from il >> ; time cat gs>/dev/null >> 0.00u 0.00s 9.70rcat gs >> >> next via tcp >> ; time cat /386/bin/gs>/dev/null >> 0.00u 0.00s 40.27r cat /386/bin/gs > > what about the host tcp? ftp is the easiest test i have.

Re: [9fans] Acme scrolling tags (was Re: graphics scaling)

2008-12-23 Thread Paul Lalonde
That differs from my experience - I usually run 3 columns on a 30" monitor, with tags open to two lines for most of my active windows; the second line typically has an Edit command lying around because you can't effectively 2-1 chord Edits. The extra length is also useful for dealing with

Re: [9fans] Acme scrolling tags (was Re: graphics scaling)

2008-12-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> (Really, it was easier to fix the editor than to get the rest of the > team to move to a saner tree structure, aggravated by cross-platform/ > cross-compile/cross-toolchain requirements that cause a 3 way cross > product of both build and some sources. If only the world had been > sold on

Re: [9fans] Acme scrolling tags (was Re: graphics scaling)

2008-12-23 Thread Steve Simon
> the obscenely deep tree our development happens in I sympathise, though ours is not _that_ bad. I use Plan9 as my desktop and mount parts of our server off a "work" dir in my home directory. This way I can work with short paths whilst remaining compatible with my colleagues. just my 2¢ -Steve

Re: [9fans] Acme scrolling tags (was Re: graphics scaling)

2008-12-23 Thread Paul Lalonde
The P9P version has this too: acme -$ But that still doesn't address ease of Edit commands or tags full of build config strings and other crap. Yes, I've been relying more on tags than guide files of late. Paul On 23-Dec-08, at 10:54 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: (Really, it was easier to

Re: [9fans] rio startup fails in VMWare Fusion 2.0.0

2008-12-23 Thread Richard Miller
> btw, what was your plan9.ini config? did it look like: > > vgasize=1280x800 > monitor=macbook (or xga?, sorry i am not sure about this) Before changing vgadb, I had success with: vgasize=1280x768x24 monitor=cinema > and, since we are in VM, does the native resolution really ma

Re: [9fans] Cheap Native Plan9 ARM board?

2008-12-23 Thread Nick LaForge
> http://www.glomationinc.com/ i have adopted the 'technologic ts-7200': http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-7200 it runs netbsd, i have not started any plan9 work nkl

Re: [9fans] 9vx il has slight speed advantage

2008-12-23 Thread andrey mirtchovski
i have a slightly unrelated question: what do you get if you use 'fcp' instead of 'cp' for the same file over tcp and il? thanks

Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-23 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
Nathaniel, I am not 100% sure if my answer will solve your problem, but probably you can do it using the 9P protocol. Look http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/5/0intro, 9P is the way to comunicate the kernel with the proccess. Probably sendfd is not needed in Plan 9. Saludos. Nathan

Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-23 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
You can post a fd at /srv for others to use On 12/23/08, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote: > Nathaniel, > > I am not 100% sure if my answer will solve your problem, but probably > you can do it using the 9P protocol. > > Look http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/5/0intro, 9P is the way > to comunica

Re: [9fans] Cheap Native Plan9 ARM board?

2008-12-23 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Nick LaForge wrote: >> http://www.glomationinc.com/ > > i have adopted the 'technologic ts-7200': > > http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-7200 > > it runs netbsd, i have not started any plan9 work > ah. I should locate my half-assed pla

Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-23 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:53:06AM +0100, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote: > You can post a fd at /srv for others to use /srv is not an ideal answer, though it is the one I feared would be given. /srv allows any process running as a given user to access the posted fd, and does not respect namespace

Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-23 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:52:51PM +0100, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote: > Nathaniel, > > I am not 100% sure if my answer will solve your problem, but probably > you can do it using the 9P protocol. > > Look http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/5/0intro, 9P is the way > to comunicate the kernel

Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> /srv is not an ideal answer, though it is the one I feared would be given. > /srv allows any process running as a given user to access the posted fd, and > does not respect namespace or process group boundaries. I want a mechanism > to pass a file descriptor to one target process so that I can p

Re: [9fans] 9vx il has slight speed advantage

2008-12-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> i have a slightly unrelated question: what do you get if you use 'fcp' > instead of 'cp' for the same file over tcp and il? > > thanks great question. unfortunately a power problem has reconfigured my network for me and i can't generate comparable numbers just yet. - erik

Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-23 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 08:39:27PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: > > /srv is not an ideal answer, though it is the one I feared would be given. > > /srv allows any process running as a given user to access the posted fd, and > > does not respect namespace or process group boundaries. I want a mecha

Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> All of the same comments apply to /srv (though srv^2 is trying to solve > this). not true. import $server / /n/$server will give you access to srv on $server as /n/$server/srv. what is "srv^2"? > 1) Sending files across namespaces so that I can spawn acme at rio startup > and plumb to it with

Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-23 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:14:16PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: > > All of the same comments apply to /srv (though srv^2 is trying to solve > > this). > > not true. import $server / /n/$server will give you access to srv on $server > as /n/$server/srv. Fair, but there's no reason to propose that