[9fans] Mouse jumps in vmware

2008-12-07 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
Hi! I use acme in vmware (windows) with two different virtual machines, a Plan9 virtual machine and Linux+p9p virtual machine. The problem is the same. When I make r-click in acme (to search, or open a file), and the mouse jumps to other place in the screen and vmware lost the mouse referenc

Re: [9fans] Mouse jumps in vmware

2008-12-07 Thread lucio
> Yes, I know, the problem is vmware :-) No, the problem is _not_ vmware. At least to the extent that vmware is just another hardware model. The only really unfortunate thing about vmware is that they are holding a few cards close to their chest with a view to making a bit of a profit. It may n

Re: [9fans] Mouse jumps in vmware

2008-12-07 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> Is possible that acme sends to vmware (or the real os) something like > "move left, move left, ... move up, move up, ..." to the new position? > Then the relation between the real mouse pointer (vmware) and the > virtual mouse pointer (plan9 or linux+x11+p9p) will be equal and then we > will

Re: [9fans] Mouse jumps in vmware

2008-12-07 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
Hi Lucio, I am happy with vmware. Is very good environment for my plan9, because my wifi card is not supported, ... "the problem is vmware" is to avoid comments about it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Yes, I know, the problem is vmware :-) No, the problem is _not_ vmware. At least to t

Re: [9fans] Mouse jumps in vmware

2008-12-07 Thread lucio
> I am happy with vmware. Is very good environment for my plan9, because > my wifi card is not supported, ... No offence intended or taken, I just thought that vmware generally get an undeservedly bad rap on this list :-) ++L

Re: [9fans] Mouse jumps in vmware

2008-12-07 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
I tryed xen, qemu and vmware ... and IMO vmware is better for my plan9 virtual machines. In other thread (probably long) ... we need think about to support any emulated software. We are not many people and write drivers is a hard work. I am not sure what is the rate of 9fans using real/emulate

[9fans] VM support (Was: Mouse jumps in vmware)

2008-12-07 Thread lucio
> In other thread (probably long) ... we need think about to support any > emulated software. We are not many people and write drivers is a hard > work. I am not sure what is the rate of 9fans using real/emulated hardware. Ron seems to do all the necessary exploring of novel VM approaches, bless

Re: [9fans] Mouse jumps in vmware

2008-12-07 Thread Uriel
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:44 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes, I know, the problem is vmware :-) > > No, the problem is _not_ vmware. At least to the extent that vmware > is just another hardware model. The only really unfortunate thing > about vmware is that they are holding a few cards clo

Re: [9fans] VM support (Was: Mouse jumps in vmware)

2008-12-07 Thread Charles Forsyth
>what we all want is better served by Windows and Linux applications. >What is missing is an understanding ... ... of how to design and write usable applications. from time to time i might need to do some non-programming work. on linux, there are a great many applications, but almost as many are

Re: [9fans] Mouse jumps in vmware

2008-12-07 Thread erik quanstrom
> We are not many people and write drivers is a hard > work. why not give it a shot? writing drivers is the most straightforward and rewarding part of my job. - erik

Re: [9fans] Mouse jumps in vmware

2008-12-07 Thread Richard Miller
> writing drivers is the most straightforward Have you found some devices with fully documented programming interfaces, which actually behave as the documentation describes? Lucky man. > and rewarding > part of my job. There I agree with you. But I like solving puzzles.

Re: [9fans] Mouse jumps in vmware

2008-12-07 Thread erik quanstrom
>> writing drivers is the most straightforward > > Have you found some devices with fully documented programming interfaces, > which actually behave as the documentation describes? Lucky man. sure. intel writes good documentation these days. - erik

[9fans] corrupted ip(3) man page in acme

2008-12-07 Thread Roman Zhukov
Hello, 9fans! When I plumb ip(3) in acme the output is corrupted (near the bottom). "man 3 ip" output is ok. What's wrong? Thanks. -- Roma

Re: [9fans] image/memimage speed

2008-12-07 Thread Aki Nyrhinen
for vgavesa, you can find this on /n/sources/patch/saved/vesasoftscreen. it's been there for a some time. for all the cards that have support outside the vesa driver, it's probably easiest to say monitor=vesa too, since you lose acceleration anyway. the related mtrr or the pat patch is good to hav

[9fans] troff to postscript with New Century Schoolbook: discrepancies?

2008-12-07 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 New Century Schoolbook is a font included in Plan 9. The troff fonts are NR, NI, NB, NX. -ms has a .FP option "century." % cat file \f(NRHello ― world! % troff file | page converting from troff to postscript... reading through postscript...

Re: [9fans] troff to postscript with New Century Schoolbook: discrepancies?

2008-12-07 Thread Russ Cox
> New Century Schoolbook is a font included in Plan 9. Included in Plan 9, no. Known to troff, yes. When you view a file with this font using page, what displays on the screen is the Ghostscript pseudo-equivalent (URW)++ Century Schoolbook L. > [Why does \f(NR― work while > .fp 1 NR > ― > does

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent ofautomounter

2008-12-07 Thread Noah Evans
To clarify Rob's point, the phrase "moral equivalence" comes with some pretty hefty baggage. In modern usage it's primarily a right wing term, used to derogatorily refer to leftist arguments. "Morally equivalent" arguments typically assert that pro-western groups have selfish(typically economic) mo

[9fans] p9p page cant open pdf files

2008-12-07 Thread Fernan Bolando
Hi all Is there a known issue in plan8port page when opening pdf files? when opening pdf files, it just sits there. It doesnt create a new window. I dont see any messages to help in debugging. doing killall page does not kill it. I dont remember when it all started, but it used to work. I curr

Re: [9fans] image/memimage speed

2008-12-07 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Dec 7 12:02:10 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > for vgavesa, you can find this on /n/sources/patch/saved/vesasoftscreen. > it's been there for a some time. > > for all the cards that have support outside the vesa driver, it's probably > easiest to say monitor=vesa too, since you lose a

[9fans] qpass

2008-12-07 Thread erik quanstrom
in port/qio.c/^qpass in the case where the queue is full or the queue is closed, the freeblist has been moved within the ilock. can someone explain the motivation behind this change? thanks - erik

Re: [9fans] image/memimage speed

2008-12-07 Thread Aki Nyrhinen
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:22 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun Dec 7 12:02:10 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> for vgavesa, you can find this on /n/sources/patch/saved/vesasoftscreen. >> it's been there for a some time. >> >> for all the cards that have support outside the

Re: [9fans] Very Off-Topic: Anybody here reads Sci-Fi? :)

2008-12-07 Thread Adrian Tritschler
In short stories both Asimov's robot and Fred Saberhagen's Berserker series would make fine Google Summer of Code projects :)

Re: [9fans] p9p page cant open pdf files

2008-12-07 Thread Tony Lainson
> I dont remember when it all started, but it used to work. This is why I haven't upgraded from ghostscript 8.15.4.