Re: [9fans] kerberos for plan9

2008-11-02 Thread hiro
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Sergey Zhilkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ohh, those Russians :) > > 2008/10/20 Sevan / Venture37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > has anyone looked into this? >> > >> > i found this by a group in Spain, though not what i expected ☺ >> > >> > Kerberos (7) - Plan 9 From

[9fans] volos experiment

2008-11-02 Thread Bruce Ellis
two young 9fans were staying in a small, but comfortable, room at the Hotel ΑΔΜΗΤΟΣ - and as a parting gesture we tried an experiment - how many 9fans can you fit in a small hotel room in Βόλος? well the experiment had to be changed when the dude at the front desk got nervous. how many 9fans can

[9fans] sources down?

2008-11-02 Thread Skip Tavakkolian

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2008-11-02 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 2, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: [blank message] The strangest part? It's been down since this morning (I'm on Murray Hill time here on Long Island); longer than usual. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darw

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2008-11-02 Thread geoff
Sources is back up. We had a power outage and some of our machines didn't come back up automatically, though they usually do.

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2008-11-02 Thread michael block
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 15:35, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sources is back up. We had a power outage and some of our machines > didn't come back up automatically, though they usually do. and here i was thinking you had taken them offline to retool them for standard time ☺. thank you for maintain

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2008-11-02 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 2, 2008, at 4:58 PM, michael block wrote: retool them for standard time isn't that done automatically? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkkOO7wACgkQuv7AVNQDs+yHxgCgqfsq+xr9i710y0c0Wogr7OIT JpEAoKIGJAe

Re: [9fans] plan9port lacks exportfs server

2008-11-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > >Besides the fact that I'm not making binary packages at all, > >splitted / small sources make packaging a lot easier. > > So let me get this straight: you're trying to solve a problem > that you don't have, right? No, I got a problem to be s

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > Convenience is one point (sometimes be a big point), but another > > important one is sharing. Without mmap(), an (real) shared library > > support most likely will require special kernel

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-02 Thread erik quanstrom
> * Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > Convenience is one point (sometimes be a big point), but another > > > important one is sharing. Without mmap(), an (real) shared library > > > support most likely will require spec

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-02 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 5:50 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: >> > > Convenience is one point (sometimes be a big point), but another >> > > important one is sharing. Withou

Re: [9fans] mv on directory

2008-11-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:12 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 1, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: I would imagine that 99% of the time (more?) the behavior people desire would be what you describe. But wh

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > > Convenience is one point (sometimes be a big point), but another > > > > important one is sharing. Without mmap(), an (real) shared

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-02 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But now I'm curious how executables and shared libraries are > actually handled on plan9. > what's a shared library? Executables: /sys/src/9/ Check it out, it's short and sweet. ron

[9fans] Questions on notes

2008-11-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Guys, I've been experimenting with how Plan 9 handles notes for processes and I must confess that I'm now confused and in need your help. First of all, the proc(3) man page says that "A read [from /proc/n/ note] of at least ERRLEN characters will retrieve the oldest note posted to the process a

Re: [9fans] volos experiment

2008-11-02 Thread Andrew Simmons
>> how many 9fans can you fit in a small hotel room in Βόλος before the management get upset? If the first 9fan is Boyd packing his normal weaponry, I would imagine the answer is at most one. Ditto for a large hotel room anywhere in the world.

[9fans] Quick question on stopping a process that waits for IO

2008-11-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Guys, when somebody tries to stop a process that is waiting for the IO the process doesn't get transferred to a Stopped state immediately but only when the scheduler sees it for the first time. This leads to a process writing to a /proc/n/ctl being put in a Stopwait state which is a bit inc

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-02 Thread Charles Forsyth
>> But now I'm curious how executables and shared libraries are >> actually handled on plan9. >> >what's a shared library? even if plan 9 were to have them, and i were doing it, i don't think i'd implement them using mmap and trampolines.

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-02 Thread Charles Forsyth
>I still remember this science fiction movie from when I was a kid. which one was that? it sounds more interesting than mmap.

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-02 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I still remember this science fiction movie from when I was a kid. > > which one was that? it sounds more interesting than mmap. > > I wish I could remember. It had the usual guys in silvery suits. They walk through a fr

[9fans] punched cards live

2008-11-02 Thread ron minnich
This courtesy of the ACPI spec: ""RSD PTR " (Notice that this signature must contain a trailing blank character.)" So where do we get the guys who design this stuff? Can we send them back? Or put them in an infinite loop in a time machine (oh wait see the subject). ron

Re: [9fans] volos experiment

2008-11-02 Thread Bruce Ellis
well the experiment description should include "- each with a significantly large backpack-". 2008/11/3 Andrew Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> how many 9fans can you fit in a small hotel room in Βόλος before the > management get upset? > > If the first 9fan is Boyd packing his normal weaponry, I

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-02 Thread Bruce Ellis
Is it worth adding that in Inferno all libraries are shared as is all of memory - seamlessly and safely? Always has been - always will be. And there is no bloody mmap() in sight. Also I believe that every bad science fiction movie is analogous to a computer science moral play. And the more the mo