/sys/src/libc/9syscall/mkfile has a rather odd looking special case for the
seek system call... it looks like if seek fails (returns -1) that the first
two arguments (fd and offset) are overwritten with -1. What's going on
here? The manual page doesn't hint at anything...
Thanks.
--nwf;
pgpjCS
seek is unusual because it returns a 64-bit value
Hey folks,
yesterday I installed Plan 9 to my ThinkPad (X30) and the graphical
installer worked fine (with 1024x768x8 and xga). And now if I first login
with user glenda the display gets fading green into purple - looks scary.
I had this once with a wrong or old/buggy intel driver under linux als
Hi there,
I'm blind, and I use Unix from the text console. I'm interested in
trying out Plan 9. It appears to be a very clean system. Are there any
blind people in the Plan 9 community? If so, I am very interested in
hearing from them.
-- Chris
Hey folks,
I'm trying to install Plan 9 via external (not usb) floppy drive onto my IBM
ThinkPad X30 [1]. My plan is to boot with the floppy and then install from a
local primary FAT32 partition. This idea is given in the wiki: "If you wish
to install from local media, you need a FAT file system o
Hello guys,
I'm a plan9 newbie and installed it on one of my computers yesterday.
But I'm kinda stuck with setting the resolution for my monitor. I have
a Samsung SyncMaster 701n (TFT) but can't get beyond 800x600 for some
reason. When I try to set the resolution to anything higher the
monitor goes
Hello Chris,
I don't know anybody blind using the system.
I actually don't know personally anybody using it. :)
But, although the system seems clean to me, I am afraid its use is rather
mouse-centric, which, for you, may be a huge downside. Plan 9, in my
opinion, is not suited for just-keyboard us
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Chris Brannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
> I'm blind, and I use Unix from the text console. I'm interested in
> trying out Plan 9. It appears to be a very clean system. Are there any
> blind people in the Plan 9 community? If so, I am very intereste
I was just playing with Inferno this weekend, and what's nice about it
is that when you are using it hosted, it is simply a process named
"emu" running in a window and talking to you in text. Your screen
reader would be able to understand it's output easily.
Inferno lets you play with the 9p proto
> On the other hand, programming Limbo with only cat and sed won't be
> too easy, so you'll need suggestions from people on the list for less
> mousy editors.
> -jeff
There is a port of vim...
R.
I'm blind in only one eye and have low vision in the other, so I run
Plan 9 in a virtual machine with an enlarged screen using Mac OS X's
Universal Access.
The concept of a Text-to-Speech program for Plan 9 has been floating
in my head for some time. How can it be made to use some of Plan 9
> Could it be something with my graphics card maybe (it's onboard)?
> I hope someone can give me a hint :)
which video controller? i've had similar problems with an nvidia
card and a monitor with tight timings. by beating on aux/vga
and stretching the timings in vgadb, i did get something my mon
> Can't I just use the driver like in the installer?
setting "monitor=vesa" would probablly do the trick.
- erik
>> Can't I just use the driver like in the installer?
>
> setting "monitor=vesa" would probablly do the trick.
>
> - erik
than I have a probably easy question: how can I get into the system and
edit plan9.ini in order to add monitor=vesa?
I know this (see down below), but how do I get there?
9fa
Hello,
I have this function in my lib/profile:
fn penelopa{
srv penelopa.karlov.mff.cuni.cz penelopa
#to solve the authentication --- see the text bellow
mount /srv/penelopa $home/shared/penelopa
unmount $home/shared/penelopa
local mount /srv/penelopa
> than I have a probably easy question: how can I get into the system and
> edit plan9.ini in order to add monitor=vesa?
>
> I know this (see down below), but how do I get there?
i'm not sure what the problem is here. can you not view the screen?
assuming that's the problem, you could
* enter a
Hola,
Has anyone done this?
I have access to a cheap hardware which could be a nice plan9 cpu server, the
only thing does not work
is the iSCSI disk (or i think so, look at the lspci below)
I suppose the bios of the machine supports booting from iSCSI, so i think i
could put a 9load or
9pxel
2008/10/18 Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 08:17 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> > > ; mntgen a
>> > > ; bind /env a/env
>> > > ; bind /bin a/bin
>> > > ; bind /proc a/proc
>> > > ; bind a /
>> > > ; ns
>> > >
>> > > consider it a security feature.
>> >
> I'm blind in only one eye and have low vision in the other, so I run
> Plan 9 in a virtual machine with an enlarged screen using Mac OS X's
> Universal Access.
>
> The concept of a Text-to-Speech program for Plan 9 has been floating
> in my head for some time. How can it be made to use som
> #to solve the authentication --- see the text bellow
> mount /srv/penelopa $home/shared/penelopa
> unmount $home/shared/penelopa
i don't see an explination for this below. what does this
accomplish? if you are trying to load more keys into your
factotum, this can be mor
On Oct 20, 2:51 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (erik quanstrom) wrote:
> > Could it be something with my graphics card maybe (it's onboard)?
> > I hope someone can give me a hint :)
>
> which video controller? i've had similar problems with an nvidia
> card and a monitor with tight timings. by beating on
2008/10/20 erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > #to solve the authentication --- see the text bellow
> > mount /srv/penelopa $home/shared/penelopa
> > unmount $home/shared/penelopa
>
> i don't see an explination for this below. what does this
> accomplish? if you are tr
I wrote this with slrn into comp.os.plan9 and then I read that it is just
possible to post via mailinglist ...
... now it arrives, but my problems are solved already - so please ignore
this post.
Regards, y0shi
> Hey folks,
>
> I'm trying to install Plan 9 via external (not usb) floppy drive on
> On Oct 20, 2:51 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (erik quanstrom) wrote:
> > > Could it be something with my graphics card maybe (it's onboard)?
> > > I hope someone can give me a hint :)
> >
> > which video controller? i've had similar problems with an nvidia
> > card and a monitor with tight timings. by
The bad news is that the existing interface is very
mouse-oriented and there is no text-to-speech support.
The good news is that the system, and each part of it,
is small, so if you don't like something it can be
replaced. Unlike Windows or Unix, where you can't
do much about the windowing system
> 2008/10/20 erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > #to solve the authentication --- see the text bellow
> > > mount /srv/penelopa $home/shared/penelopa
> > > unmount $home/shared/penelopa
> >
> > i don't see an explination for this below. what does this
> > accomplish
2008/10/20 erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> sounds very complicated. i'm not sure i understand.
Ok. I thought this was lately partially discussed here
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.plan9/browse_thread/thread/e8b5e25936f3aff1
even with your participation :), namely see your post fol
Dave Eckhardt writes:
> The good news is that the system, and each part of it,
> is small, so if you don't like something it can be
> replaced. Unlike Windows or Unix, where you can't
> do much about the windowing system, in Plan 9 you
> really can replace it and it's not that much code.
Quite a
i stumbled upon this the other day. xmonad is a tiling window manager
written in haskell that looks similar to acme, although it can be
completely keyboard-driven. if anyone has used it please comment on
it.
andrey
> i stumbled upon this the other day. xmonad is a tiling window manager
> written in haskell that looks similar to acme, although it can be
> completely keyboard-driven. if anyone has used it please comment on
> it.
I use it as my X WM. So far I've been pretty satisfied with it. By
default you ca
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 17:09 +0300, Yaroslav wrote:
> > Or here's an easier way to ask the same: is there a simple reason
> > for
> > $ bind /foo /really/nested/bar
> > always triggering walks into /foo and /really/nested/bar and not
> > allowing for "lazy evaluation"?
>
> The evaluation of bind
Am Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:51:44 -0400
schrieb erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > than I have a probably easy question: how can I get into the system
> > and edit plan9.ini in order to add monitor=vesa?
> >
> > I know this (see down below), but how do I get there?
>
> i'm not sure what the prob
Hey Chris,
Can you describe how you interact with the system now, and how you'd
do it if everything was perfect? Do you do much copying and pasting?
If so how do you determine the boundaries? Do you use a braille
display or text to speech stuff?
Noah
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Chris Brann
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 09:19:50AM +0100, C H Forsyth wrote:
> seek is unusual because it returns a 64-bit value
Forgive my ignorance, but I don't see how the code in question relates to
returning a 64-bit value?
--nwf;
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The seek system call is here
/sys/src/9/port/sysfile.c:855
The arg variable here is a pointer to the users stack making
the system call. most return values are 32 bit and are passed
back through syscall()
/sys/src/9/pc/trap.c:660
but seek is different, it overwrites 64 bits star
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:11:22PM +0100, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> >Forgive my ignorance, but I don't see how the code in question relates to
> >returning a 64-bit value?
> MOVL a+0(FP),CX
> MOVL AX,0(CX)
> MO
charles ported rsynth some time ago, here's the link
http://www.terzarima.net/plan9/dist/rsynth.tgz
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm blind in only one eye and have low vision in the other, so I run Plan 9
> in a virtual machine with an enlarged sc
>Forgive my ignorance, but I don't see how the code in question relates to
>returning a 64-bit value?
MOVL a+0(FP),CX
MOVL AX,0(CX)
MOVL AX,4(CX)
that's how a 64-bit value is returned on 32-bit machines
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Charles sent me an email about rsynth. I'll get 9vx and take this up
(QEMU doesn't support Plan 9's audio system).
However, I do have some more ideas that would help:
1) A *blind or visually impaired* option in the installer
2) An option in rio t
> local mount /srv/penelopa $home/shared/penelopa
> #sleep 1 # --- see the text bellow; this pertains to my main
> question
> local srvfs CALC $home/shared/penelopa/home/ruda/CPA-CALC #
> local mount /srv/CALC $home/shared/CALC
I haven't actually tried this, s
> http://osdir.com/ml/os.plan9.nine-grid/2005-06/msg1.html is a proposal
> from some years ago from TIP9UG to do multi-domain authentication in a way
> somewhat reminiscent of Kerberos.[1]
>
> The only change to factotum, AFAICT, was the following addition:
>>if(_strfindattr(s->key->attr,
> is there something else you are looking for?
say i have a plan9 compute cluster on which i want to allow tip9ug's
users to run jobs. i shouldn't have to add all their passwords to my
auth server, but i should still be able to say "i trust tip9ug's auth
server and will allow users from it to log
>> is there something else you are looking for?
>
> say i have a plan9 compute cluster on which i want to allow tip9ug's
> users to run jobs. i shouldn't have to add all their passwords to my
> auth server, but i should still be able to say "i trust tip9ug's auth
> server and will allow users from
> what kind of access would you give such users to the fileserver?
in this specific example perhaps some minimal scratch space, but one
can quickly conceive cases where the complete file system semantics
are used, for example when you want to provide a data replication
service between sites withou
On Mon Oct 20 20:41:38 EDT 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > what kind of access would you give such users to the fileserver?
>
> in this specific example perhaps some minimal scratch space, but one
> can quickly conceive cases where the complete file system semantics
> are used, for example when
> i'm not sure. what does "complete filesystem semantics" mean? let me
> rephrase.
honouring group and user permissions, instead of using a
world-writable partition with everybody treated as "none".
> the premise is that the local system, and thus i assume the local fs, has
> no knowledge of th
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 07:43:39PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > http://osdir.com/ml/os.plan9.nine-grid/2005-06/msg1.html is a proposal
> > from some years ago from TIP9UG to do multi-domain authentication in a way
> > somewhat reminiscent of Kerberos.[1]
> >
> > The only change to factotum
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:05 PM, andrey mirtchovski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i hope to have relayed the original idea: give "friendly users" some
> access to your resources.
yes, there was a long running discussion of this with presotto,
andrey, acki, me, who else? years ago.
We never resol
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:49 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> the premise is that the local system, and thus i assume the local fs, has
> no knowledge of the user. this task has been delegated to a foreign auth
> server. so what are the mechanics of getting the local fs to treat
2) An option in rio to automatically open a new window
3) A window switching program for rio (think alt+tab in Windows)
For this particular case it's probably better to ditch rio completely and
write something dedicated to the task at hand.
As for editors, all you need is ed(1). And believe
sam -d is also very powerful, and might be worth learning even for
unix use, I'm totally ignorant about specialized editors for the
blind, but if I ever lost my sight, I think sam -d would be all I
would use.
(The tutorial on the sam language is most enlightening for everyone,
even lowly acme user
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