Re: [9fans] Timezone file for Riyadh, KSA

2008-04-21 Thread gas
As far as i know, Saudi Arabia is at UTC+3h and has no daylight savings time, so AST 10800 AST 10800 should do. (C.f. Arizona.) --- Den mån 2008-04-21 skrev John Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Från: John Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ämne: [9fans] Timezone file for Riyadh, KSA > Till: 9fans@9fan

[9fans] Timezone file for Riyadh, KSA

2008-04-21 Thread John Waters
Hello and good morning, I have recently relocated to Riyadh, KSA and have decided to spend my now all-too-copious free time learning the ins and outs of Plan 9. One nagging problem for me, however, is the lack of a AST timezone file. I am curious if it is at all possible for: 1) Someone to throw

Re: [9fans] Timezone file for Riyadh, KSA

2008-04-21 Thread sqweek
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:32 PM, John Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello and good morning, > I have recently relocated to Riyadh, KSA and have decided to spend my > now all-too-copious free time learning the ins and outs of Plan 9. One > nagging problem for me, however, is the lack of a A

Re: [9fans] Timezone file for Riyadh, KSA

2008-04-21 Thread John Waters
Hi gas, After reviewing ctime's man page I came to the same conclusion. I just tried it out and it appears to be just smurfy. Thanks all, jcw On 4/21/08, gas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as i know, Saudi Arabia is at UTC+3h and has no daylight savings time, > so > > AST 10800 AST 10800 >

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Apr 17 19:07:09 EDT 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > anyway, perhaps the more important question, at least for erik, is: will > his change cause trouble elsewhere? unfortunately, we don't know, but we'll > see how he gets along! > not setting the PSH bit when there's no data does fix the

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Charles Forsyth
> i can only assume that they are trying to > defend against some sort of dos attack. perhaps someone has a better > suggestion? it depends what they actually are running on that machine. i've seen several broken tcp/ip implementations in embedded systems. fairly often they mess up handling of t

Re: [9fans] Timezone file for Riyadh, KSA

2008-04-21 Thread Steve Simon
Re Timezone file format: /n/sources/contrib/steve/rc/tzdump -Steve

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:56:42 EDT erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > bwc points out that godaddy's behavior is very likely a violation of the rfc. I am not convinced any rfc covers this situation - it may be that their tcp layer does the right thing and the bug is at the application l

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread erik quanstrom
> `PUSH' is a curious anachronism considered indispensable by > certain members of the Internet community. Since PUSH can > (and does) change in any datagram, an information preserving > compression scheme must pass it explicitly. psh might be harder to understand than pre

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Charles Forsyth
> psh might be harder to understand than preserving message boundaries, but, > hey, > it's less useful and easier to get wrong. absolutely! worrying, isn't it.

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Charles Forsyth
> But in any case setting PSH on a > packet with no data serves no real purpose. i think that's incorrect: it ensures a push of any data that is already buffered but un-pushed (ie, the immediately preceding segment had no PSH, and the receiver's implementation buffers accordingly). part of the

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Charles Forsyth
> But in any case setting PSH on a > packet with no data serves no real purpose. i think that's incorrect: it ensures a push of any data that is already buffered but un-pushed (ie, the immediately preceding segment had no PSH, and the receiver's implementation buffers accordingly). part of the

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:19:33 BST Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But in any case setting PSH on a > > packet with no data serves no real purpose. > > i think that's incorrect: it ensures a push of any data that is already buffe > red but un-pushed > (ie, the immediately preceding

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Charles Forsyth
> must not buffer data indefinitely, and (2) MUST set the > PSH bit in the last buffered segment (i.e., when there > is no more queued data to be sent). > > The implication is that the "preceding segment" to a pkt with > no data *will have* PSH set. so does the implementation do th

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Charles Forsyth wrote: computing is needlessly regressing. And it will continue to regress until one knowledgeable and independent human being serves as final arbiter of standards.

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread erik quanstrom
> Charles Forsyth wrote: > > computing is needlessly regressing. > > > > And it will continue to regress until one knowledgeable and independent > human being serves as final arbiter of standards. > good idea. why don't you ask ken? - erik

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread erik quanstrom
> I meant this: > /* Pull out data to send */ > bp = nil; > if(dsize != 0) { > bp = qcopy(s->wq, dsize, sent); > if(BLEN(bp) != dsize) { > seg.flags |= FIN; >

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Charles Forsyth
> And it will continue to regress until one knowledgeable and independent > human being serves as final arbiter of standards. i think some of it eventually will be formalised, much as we do with programming languages (even Javascript, which i mentioned, at least has a plausible grammar), but it

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erik quanstrom wrote: Charles Forsyth wrote: computing is needlessly regressing. And it will continue to regress until one knowledgeable and independent human being serves as final arbiter of standards. good idea. why don't you ask ken? -

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:24:35 BST Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > must not buffer data indefinitely, and (2) MUST set the > > PSH bit in the last buffered segment (i.e., when there > > is no more queued data to be sent). > > > > The implication is that the "preceding

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:49:35 EDT erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I meant this: > > /* Pull out data to send */ > > bp = nil; > > if(dsize != 0) { > > bp = qcopy(s->wq, dsize, sent); > > if

Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois

2008-04-21 Thread Charles Forsyth
having looked again at ip/tcp.c i think the code wasn't really intending to resolve one of the stalled receiver cases i had in mind, although it happens to do so, so changing it probably doesn't mess up some original intent. mind you, one lesson i take from all this is that in retrospect one coul