Re: [9fans] Eeepc

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Jon Dugan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recently bought an Eeepc and although I have Plan 9 running inside > Parallels on my Mac I thought it would be interesting to see if I could > get it installed on the Eeepc. A couple of people on irc (freenode, #plan9) w

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 system behind firewall

A long delay when connecting to a server behind a firewall may be an attempt to connect to the secstore port. Terminals booting with a remote fileserver, and some configurations of drawterm, will look for a secstore server, by default at address tcp!$auth!5356. If the auth machine isn't running a

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 system behind firewall

Thank you very much, Richard. > A long delay when connecting to a server behind a firewall may be an > attempt to connect to the secstore port. I'm not running secstore yet at the target (Plan 9-2) auth server. > Can you configure the firewall to open tcp port 5356? Yes, I can. I'll try this

[9fans] bug in echo?

I was trying to echo the string '-n' and couldn't. This is because -n doesn't use ARGBEGIN. This command results in: echo -- -n -- -n I ended up doing echo a-n|sed s/a// Do I send the patch, do you consider this a bug?. -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

echo -n -n' ' -rob

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

The UNIX Programming Environment, p.78

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008/3/26 Rob Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > echo -n -n' > ' {echo -n -n; echo} But again, why not echo -- -n ? -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

> echo -- -n because we do gnot like that sort of stuff.

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Anthony Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The UNIX Programming Environment, p.78 Followed by . --Joel

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Anthony Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The UNIX Programming Environment, p.78 > Plan 9 is not UNIX. The difference in code is: < < if(argc > 1) < if(strcmp(argv[1], "--") == 0){ < argv++; < argc-

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Gorka Guardiola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, my question remains, why not?. Even in the UPE it says that > the echo -n ' > ' > is ugly... …At this point the Plan 9 realized history repeating itself, and although she did not want to offend either, she decide

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Sape Mullender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > echo -- -n > > because we do gnot like that sort of stuff. > > rm -- -r whynot rm: -r: '-r' file does not exist rm: whaynot: 'whaynot' file does not exist -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Joel C. Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > …At this point the Plan 9 realized history repeating itself, and > although she did not want to offend either, she decided it was better > to offend the impatient youth rather than subject all her suitors to > yet ano

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

> So, my question remains, why not?. Even in the UPE it says that > the echo -n ' > ' > is ugly... you could also echo ' -n' if the output can deal with a spurious space. or echo -n -n;echo this is a very odd case which can be worked around without adding --. the adding of which adds another odd

Re: [9fans] Eeepc

I was not sure what was on there but found http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi?act=Print;f=8;t=19312 Posted by 9a6or on Nov. 18 2007,05:25 lspci in DSL gives: Code Sample :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 2590 (rev 04) :00:02.0 VGA compatible controller

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 system behind firewall

Kenji, I have had similar problems booting terminals from remote fileservers and even when loading drawterm on a computer connected to the CPU/auth/file server by a single switch. In the latter case, at least, my problem seems to have been related to a misconfigured /lib/ndb/local. Anticipating a

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:55 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --? so adding -- special case code doesn't really solve any problems. echo -- --? -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

> this is a very odd case odd but important. it's worth knowing that x=`{read} echo $x can transform more than just white space. personally, i'd vote for allowing -- just for the above case: echoing unknown text. the first argument to echo is not always a known constant. FWIW, echo '' $x w

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

>> this is a very odd case > > odd but important. it's worth knowing that what's your reasoning that this is an important case? - erik

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

Is there a valid reason to have echo process the arguments given? It's a simple mod: #include #include /* echo: echo args */ void main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int nl = 1; ARGBEGIN{ 'n':

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a valid reason to have echo process the arguments given? I'm leaning toward Eric's suggestion of splitting echo in twain. When facing south, the Plan 9 will open her mouth to echo nothing; when facing north (e

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

but echo -n '-n ' is a hack. with a different implementation it might as well complaint that ' ' is an invalid flag. And in any case, the "do the same thing the same way all the times" argument suggests that -- should terminate option processing. doesn't it?

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

But should echo ignore arguments it doesn't understand (like UNIX does) or complain (like GNU echo does)? Also note this from the bash manual: echo does not interpret -- to mean the end of options. This is just a matter of the proper behavior to implement echo -- with. Using two pro

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

> values of Δ will give rise to doom! at least get that one right, please?

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:10 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> this is a very odd case > > > > odd but important. it's worth knowing that > > what's your reasoning that this is an important case? i think it's important because every time you put echo $foo in a shell script, you

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Mar 26, 2008, at 4:09 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: values of Δ will give rise to doom! at least get that one right, please? You don't get it, do you? Δ is the symbol for change. Now do you get it? CHANGE ---> DOOM

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008/3/26 Rob Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > echo -n -n' > ' > > -rob > > I know this is a silly question, but doesn't this defeats the purpose of the first -n? iru

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

> > You don't get it, do you? > Δ is the symbol for change. > Now do you get it? > > CHANGE ---> DOOM despite being quite the little tard, i'll give you a pass. what you quoted incorrectly is this: 9grid% sed -n 88,91p /usr/andrey/unix/V6/usr/source/s2/mv.c if(*--argp1 == '.'){

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

Yes I know what I quoted. I changed the B to a Delta to represent change and turned dom to doom. YOU ARE THE TARD IF YOU DID NOT GET THAT. It now reads CHANGE --> DOOM! We need to keep echo the same because of the fact we can't agree on something. On Mar 26, 2008, at 4:30 PM, andrey mirtc

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes I know what I quoted. I changed the B to a Delta to represent > change and turned dom to doom. YOU ARE THE TARD IF YOU DID NOT GET > THAT. It now reads CHANGE --> DOOM! > > We need to keep echo the same because of

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

I don't care if you agree with Bill Gates on the issue. The problem is that everyone has about 30 different ways of solving the problem and there isn't a definite solution that will cause something to break. Let's face it -- this is 98.438604% futile. On Mar 26, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Iruata Sou

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't care if you agree with Bill Gates on the issue. The problem > is that everyone has about 30 different ways of solving the problem > and there isn't a definite solution that will cause something to > break. Let

Re: [9fans] Boot option to disable multiprocessor mode?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Brad Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to modify the live cd isos to list an option that would > allow booting with the *nomp=1 option set? The live cd _does_ boot with *nomp=1. -sqweek

[9fans] RFC: 9zine

Hi folks, I'm currently planning an little ezine about Plan9 and related stuff (incl. 9P+synthentic filesystems on other OS'es). Maybe anyone interested ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de

[9fans] 9P support for MC

Hi folks, I'd just want to let you know I've added 9P support to the Midnight Commander (via libmvfs + libmixp). cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ -

Re: [9fans] RFC: 9zine

That sounds cool. The Bell Systems Technical Journal, but for Plan 9. Count me in. On Mar 26, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, I'm currently planning an little ezine about Plan9 and related stuff (incl. 9P+synthentic filesystems on other OS'es). Maybe anyone interested ?

Re: [9fans] RFC: 9zine

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm currently planning an little ezine about Plan9 and related stuff > (incl. 9P+synthentic filesystems on other OS'es). > > Maybe anyone interested ? I would read it. -- Tom Lieber http://AllTom.com/

Re: [9fans] 9P support for MC

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'd just want to let you know I've added 9P support to the > Midnight Commander (via libmvfs + libmixp). > > cu I'm forwarding this to 9p-hackers. iru

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but > echo -n '-n > ' > is a hack. yes so is any of the other solutions, each with its own constraints. > with a different implementation it might as well > complaint that ' > ' is an invalid flag. no.

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Gorka Guardiola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (written as an example, untried and not being overly careful) > > #include Two echo programs, with no options, would be less code. And then we could all go back to complaining about the lack of OpenOffice.org and Ja

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

Equivalently (tried but not much, cleaner). #include #include void main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int nflag, argi; int i, len; char *buf, *p; nflag = 0; argi = 0; for(i = 1; i < argc; i++){ if(argv[i][0] != '-' )

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

Who needs OpenOffice.org Write when you have troff? Who needs OpenOffice.org Calc when you have CSV and awk? Who needs OpenOffice.org Impress (PowerPoint) when you have troff and either mv or Uriel's macros? Who needs OpenOffice.org Draw when you have 2nd edition draw in /n/ sources/extra?

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse adventure

Right. On 64-bit arches, linux forces the O_LARGEFILE (0x8000) flag in sys_open(). FUSE passes the flags along in fuse_send_open(), which makes its way to 9pfuse's _fuseopen(). _fuseopen() _tries_ to ignore the O_LARGEFILE flag, but on 64-bit arches, the userspace fcntl header defines O_LARGEFILE

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

Iruata Souza wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't care if you agree with Bill Gates on the issue. The problem is that everyone has about 30 different ways of solving the problem and there isn't a definite solution that will cause something

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

Who has nothing better to do at school? It's supposed to be fun! brucee On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who needs OpenOffice.org Write when you have troff? > > Who needs OpenOffice.org Calc when you have CSV and awk? > > Who needs OpenOffice.org Imp

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

well the gcc list is still waiting for you ... maybe it was volatile. brucee On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Robert William Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Iruata Souza wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I don't care if you agree wi

Re: [9fans] 9P support for MC

no, the horror ...dhog had this habit of sneaking into my office when the PS2 was running a horseshit linux cut up (but it was good enough to copy in an inferno boot image). he'd run mc on it which could only lead to sillier pranks. brucee On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Iruata Souza <[EMAIL PR

[9fans] Where to set environments in p9p

Hi all, I have a question about the settings in p9p (plan 9 from user space), such as setting the default font ($font). According to the documents, $PLAN9/rcmain and $home/lib/profile are two places to put configurations stuff, say environments etc, which would be read by rc shell when invoked by

Re: [9fans] RFC: 9zine

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:14:38PM -0400, Tom Lieber wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm currently planning an little ezine about Plan9 and related stuff > > (incl. 9P+synthentic filesystems on other OS'es). > > Maybe anyone interested ? >

Re: [9fans] Where to set environments in p9p

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Hongzheng Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a question about the settings in p9p (plan 9 from user space), > such as setting the default font ($font). Wherever you want. The environment is not something p9p specific, and how it gets initialised in somewha