Re: [9fans] Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?

2008-03-10 Thread scaron
Abaco's website is now hosted at http://abaco.oitobits.net ;) Thanks! I guess it hasn't made it into the google index yet. -Sean

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread erik quanstrom
[redirected to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The difference between this and venti (aside from the factor of 2^60 > or whatever it was) is that network/memory/disk errors are either brushing off the factor of 2^60 is like brushing off the difference in weight between a bunch of banannas and the moon. > t

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Russ Cox
This topic just isn't worth all the anguish it is causing. If you are worried about SHA-1 collisions, turn on the flag that looks for them. Then you can sleep at night knowing that all your writes have been collision-free. And if one day you do get a collision, venti will tell you and then you c

Re: [9fans] attention - new list address

2008-03-10 Thread Dennis Davis
In the referenced article, Scott Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 07:10:08PM -0500, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: >> Another question: will groups.google.com still have the old >> 9fans? > >comp.os.plan9, and the google groups view of it, was fed by a >mail->usenet gateway.

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Bruce Ellis
I concur and offer the great venti challenge. I am willing to personally give $10,000 to the person who experiences the first venti collision. (I know it's not a million but call me cheap.) The rules are simple. To enroll in the contest send $10 to charity and send me a copy of the receipt. First

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I concur and offer the great venti challenge. > > I am willing to personally give $10,000 to the person who experiences > the first venti collision. (I know it's not a million but call me > cheap.) > > The rules are simpl

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Bruce Ellis
Fine, as long as each node donates $10 :-) Well actually that isn't needed, as you would need several universes of disk space (depending on whose estimate you like). brucee writes a cheque for $10 for polluting 9fans. Oh the Free Beer Foundation - I drank all the donations. brucee On Tue, Mar 1

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Geoffrey Avila
This reminds me of a joke: A man was asked by his neighbor to watch the neighbor's house while he went away to a conference. The conference was only for one day, but the neighbor was gone a week. He explained to the man that the extra time was due to driving there and back. The neighbor, a st

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erik quanstrom wrote: brushing off the factor of 2^60 is like brushing off the difference in weight between a bunch of banannas and the moon. bunch of bananas = ~1kg mass of moon (weight of moon @ earth's sea level) = 7.3477^22 kg 2^60 =1,152,921,504,606,846,976 = 1.15etc^18 Oh oh, y

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread erik quanstrom
> > > brushing off the factor of 2^60 is like brushing off the difference > > in weight between a bunch of banannas and the moon. > > bunch of bananas = ~1kg > mass of moon (weight of moon @ earth's sea level) = 7.3477^22 kg > 2^60 =1,152,921,504,606,846,976 = 1.15etc^18 > > Oh oh, you'

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Charles Forsyth
> The statistician replies that while the odds of being on a plane with > _one_ bomb are too high for him, the odds of being on a plane with > _multiple_ bombs are infinitesimal. probably that explains why Homeland Security always seemed to be on Orange Alert. at first i thought it had somethin

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:27:47 EDT erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > brushing off the factor of 2^60 is like brushing off the difference > > > in weight between a bunch of banannas and the moon. > > > > bunch of bananas = ~1kg > > mass of moon (weight of moon @ earth's sea level)

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Charles Forsyth
> And if one day you do get a collision, > venti will tell you and then you can tell your grandchildren

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Wes Kussmaul
erik quanstrom wrote: that's cause it's 2^80 not 2^60. did i mistype? Thank goodness! Now I can sleep... -- Wes Kussmaul

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread erik quanstrom
> erik quanstrom wrote: > > > that's cause it's 2^80 not 2^60. did i mistype? > > Thank goodness! Now I can sleep... > > -- > Wes Kussmaul maybe not. it's just 1024 times more likely that you will. - erik

Re: [9fans] thoughs about venti+fossil

2008-03-10 Thread Bruce Ellis
It's good to see that nobody is passionate enough to put up $10. brucee On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:10 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > erik quanstrom wrote: > > > > > that's cause it's 2^80 not 2^60. did i mistype? > > > > Thank goodness! Now I can sleep... > > > > -- > > Wes K