Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-10-04 Thread Gabriel Diaz
still is a pity that all that great work is not more widely used. gabi De: Rob Pike Para: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Enviado: Domingo 29 de septiembre de 2013 19:39 Asunto: Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wro

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-09-30 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 30 September 2013 14:12, erik quanstrom wrote: > in 1992, it was not possible with sockets to > add an address family without changing all the user programs that intended > to use it. > also, it overlooks the possibility of import/export once anything is in a name space

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-09-30 Thread Jonathan Cast
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013, at 06:12 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sun Sep 29 23:00:29 EDT 2013, asbras...@gmail.com wrote: > > However stating that "just works" equals "don't rework it" is very > > Microsofty, tho' > > also debatable wrt sockets. in 1992, it was not possible with sockets to > add an

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-09-30 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Sep 29 23:00:29 EDT 2013, asbras...@gmail.com wrote: > However stating that "just works" equals "don't rework it" is very > Microsofty, tho' also debatable wrt sockets. in 1992, it was not possible with sockets to add an address family without changing all the user programs that intended

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-09-29 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
I really, really wish you had misspelled his name. 2013/9/29 Brantley Coile > "Doesn't matter what they say about you as long as they spell your name > right". -- Harry Houdini. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:02 PM, "Teodoro Santoni" > wrote: > > > > However stating that "ju

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-09-29 Thread Brantley Coile
"Doesn't matter what they say about you as long as they spell your name right". -- Harry Houdini. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:02 PM, "Teodoro Santoni" wrote: > > However stating that "just works" equals "don't rework it" is very > Microsofty, tho' > >> On domenica 29 settembre

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-09-29 Thread Matthew Veety
World Domination. You forget that 2013 is the year of the Plan 9 desktop. On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:45 PM, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > Surely there was a market to fit into... > > On domenica 29 settembre 2013 22:34:34 CEST, Charles Forsyth wrote: >> >> On 29 September 2013 17:55, andrey mirtchovski

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-09-29 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 29 September 2013 17:55, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > http://www.di.unipi.it/~nids/docs/the_plan-9_effect.html I note that despite that analysis he worked on Bing.

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-09-29 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting Rob Pike : He appears not to understand the concept of "research". -rob Or, more to the point, "success." khm

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-09-29 Thread dexen deVries
On Sunday 29 of September 2013 10:39:40 Rob Pike wrote: > He appears not to understand the concept of "research". and he fails to note that every single thing he mentions has already made its way into commercial OSes (at least RedHat has 100% of it; MacOS X has some). even the /net is widesprea

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-09-29 Thread Rob Pike
He appears not to understand the concept of "research". -rob On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: > it's good to know where we went wrong. > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:55 PM, andrey mirtchovski > wrote: >> after all these years: >> >> http://www.di.unipi.it/~nids/docs/the_plan

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

2013-09-29 Thread Jacob Todd
it's good to know where we went wrong. On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:55 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > after all these years: > > http://www.di.unipi.it/~nids/docs/the_plan-9_effect.html >