Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-17 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:56:18 -0400, Daniel Lyons wrote: If that's something you're thinking about doing, let me suggest you take a look at Clojure. The Java aspect aside, it is a good compromise in design between Scheme and Lisp and introduces lots of good ideas. This is something I woul

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-17 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:31:08 -0400, Noah Evans wrote: For Lisp variants ask Alex Shinn(alexsh...@gmail.com), he's got an interesting scheme implementation mostly working. It's a summer of code project this year. Indeed, there are a number of fairly portable Scheme implementations that I c

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-17 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:34:03 -0400, Akshat Kumar wrote: Speaking of fonts in Acme, using the default, I spent extra amount of time tracking down a bug in my gs(1) source, which was the mix-up between -lijs and -Iijs. Apparently 'I' is shorter than 'l' by some portion of a pixel. I use Times

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-16 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 14, 2009, at 12:28 PM, "Roman V. Shaposhnik" wrote: I looked at it for a while and came with a realization that it could be just a tad heavier than what I need for most of the stuff I do. Plus I'm not sure how to port it to Plan9 without first porting the JVM. I actually meant to cr

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-15 Thread Akshat Kumar
Speaking of fonts in Acme, using the default, I spent extra amount of time tracking down a bug in my gs(1) source, which was the mix-up between -lijs and -Iijs. Apparently 'I' is shorter than 'l' by some portion of a pixel. how could I possibly miss that ak P.S.: This isn't Acme's fault - it's t

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Akshat Kumar
> For Lisp variants ask Alex Shinn(alexsh...@gmail.com), he's got an > interesting scheme implementation mostly working. It's a summer of > code project this year. See also my post: http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/news/2009/07/19/0/ and the included link to setting it up on Plan 9. Best, ak

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Noah Evans
For Lisp variants ask Alex Shinn(alexsh...@gmail.com), he's got an interesting scheme implementation mostly working. It's a summer of code project this year. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: > >> So, I was browsing around the

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua > on Plan9? > Roman. Kenji has written a webdav server for pegasus (Kenji's httpd branch) using lua.

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 10:49 -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote: > On Aug 14, 2009, at 3:15 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:58:39 -0400, Daniel Lyons > > wrote: > > > >> I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of > >> Lisp variant. > > > > Maybe that should be my

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 14, 2009, at 3:15 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:58:39 -0400, Daniel Lyons > wrote: I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp variant. Maybe that should be my next side project. If that's something you're thinking about doing, let me sug

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:58:39 -0400, Daniel Lyons wrote: I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp variant. Maybe that should be my next side project. Aaron W. Hsu -- Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be th

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Pavel Klinkovsky
> Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua > on Plan9? I am "playing" with Lua on my Plan9 computer... BTW I have found a difference between Linux and Plan9 version: - Linux version can handle "dividing by 0" without crash of Lua interpretter, - Plan9 version cannot. ;-) P

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Robert Raschke
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 11:55 -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp > > variant. > > Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua > on Plan9? > > Thanks, >

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 11:55 -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote: > I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp > variant. Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua on Plan9? Thanks, Roman. P.S. The more I look into Lua (as a way to help C refuge start doin

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Aug 13 18:36:41 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: > I always get a kick out of this > exchange:http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/comp.os.plan9/msg02052.html it took me at least 5 seconds to realize that abaco was formatting that page correctly. ☺ the key to the joke, however, is there is

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread ron minnich
I always get a kick out of this exchange:http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/comp.os.plan9/msg02052.html

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: > > So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I >> discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of >> proportional fonts for programming in

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of proportional fonts for programming in Acme. This surprised me, to say the least. He even went as f

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:14:19 GMT "Aaron W. Hsu" wrote: > So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I > discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of > proportional fonts for programming in Acme. This surprised me, to say the > least. He e

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Robert Raschke
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: > So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I > discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of > proportional fonts for programming in Acme. I've been programming using Wily, Acme, and Acm

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread roger peppe
2009/8/13 Aaron W. Hsu : > Firstly, how many of you using Acme for programming on a daily basis remap > your fonts so that the fixed width font is the main one that you use? i use proportional fonts in acme for programming. > Secondly, if you do use proportional width fonts, why, and what trouble

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Paul Donnelly
"Aaron W. Hsu" writes: > Secondly, if you do use proportional width fonts, why, and what > troubles did you encounter; what benefits did you encounter? You can't very well engage in weird formatting tricks, but I'm not much a fan of those anyway. IMO, the more attractive letters and generally le

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread matt
I always use proportional, 10 years ish now I always use tabs not spaces for indenting I don't remember it ever being a problem, certainly not one unsolved by clicking on Font