Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> > Really? I've had very little problem with modifying U-Boot - the code base > > is fairly common for most Linux-like projects. The code was consistent, and > > well documented. As far as setting up the hardware, it's certainly > > interesting, but of small utility in the grand scheme of things.

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> Really? I've had very little problem with modifying U-Boot - the code base > is fairly common for most Linux-like projects. The code was consistent, and > well documented. As far as setting up the hardware, it's certainly > interesting, but of small utility in the grand scheme of things. perhaps

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread Steven Stallion
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > It's more than that. Many board vendors will use a secured stage 1 > > bootloader that assumes U-Boot. It's probably possible to shove in a > > good point. what are the secure loaders assuming? > I have no idea - those I've dealt with we

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> It's more than that. Many board vendors will use a secured stage 1 > bootloader that assumes U-Boot. It's probably possible to shove in a good point. what are the secure loaders assuming? > Every SoC is going to have a different process - in the end, you'll have > something that will probably

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread Richard Miller
> Strange... I will take a look at the code. Which uboot are you using? > Though we don't have to use the latest uboot. I grabbed the uboot binary from a freebsd distribution dated 20130201. Earlier versions won't work with a 512MB pi model B.

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread Bakul Shah
On Jun 3, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Richard Miller wrote: >> The screen size detection code uses rpi's msgbox interface so should work >> even with uboot. > > It should but it doesn't. I notice uboot is now echoing its console output to > hdmi as well as the serial port, which earlier versions didn't

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread Richard Miller
> The screen size detection code uses rpi's msgbox interface so should work > even with uboot. It should but it doesn't. I notice uboot is now echoing its console output to hdmi as well as the serial port, which earlier versions didn't do. Maybe this is messing up the screen size.

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread Steven Stallion
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:19 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > unfortunately, as far as i know plan 9 can't be used as a primary > loader most of the environments where uboot is used because > we haven't written the (usually small) memory initialization code, etc. > It's more than that. Many board vendo

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread Bakul Shah
On Jun 3, 2013, at 3:35 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > I just tried this to check it still works, and found that you > need a vgasize= definition in the /cfg/pxe/NN file if you're > booting with uboot and want an HDMI screen. I'm not sure that > was documented anywhere. If yo

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Jun 3 06:42:31 EDT 2013, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: > > there's something just a little annoying about having a boot > > loader that is much larger than the kernel than you're loading. > > Thanks to /dev/reboot you can alternatively use plan 9 itself > as a loader, thus guaranteeing the loa

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
yes, sorry; i was going from memory -- which isn't as reliable as it once was. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > you'll need the uboot sd image that Richard put together > > (/n/sources/contrib/miller/uboot.img) > > No, that file is just an executable

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread Richard Miller
> there's something just a little annoying about having a boot > loader that is much larger than the kernel than you're loading. Thanks to /dev/reboot you can alternatively use plan 9 itself as a loader, thus guaranteeing the loader is no bigger than the kernel. I've found this useful when loadin

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread Richard Miller
> you'll need the uboot sd image that Richard put together > (/n/sources/contrib/miller/uboot.img) No, that file is just an executable binary of uboot. An SD image for pxe-type loading is /n/sources/extra/pi.uboot.sd.img.gz as mentioned in booting(8). I just tried this to check it still works,

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-02 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 6:09 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > also note, that the kw kernel is bootable without uimage > support. > Sure, though supporting uImage means you get a few things for free, not to mention it isn't ELF. This deserves a proper write up - I'll probably do something for IWP9 if I

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-02 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
you'll need the uboot sd image that Richard put together (/n/sources/contrib/miller/uboot.img) that's what i use to boot the 9Pi cluster from the file server. On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:53 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > also note, that the kw kernel is bootable without uimage > > > support. > >

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-02 Thread erik quanstrom
> > also note, that the kw kernel is bootable without uimage > > support. > > ... and so is any other Plan 9 arm kernel, as long as you > have access to u-boot's console or config variables. > See booting(8). the rpi doesn't use u-boot by default, though, does it? i certainly don't see any indica

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-02 Thread Richard Miller
> also note, that the kw kernel is bootable without uimage > support. ... and so is any other Plan 9 arm kernel, as long as you have access to u-boot's console or config variables. See booting(8).

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-02 Thread erik quanstrom
> uImage support to 5l (patch/arm-uboot) - a requirement to exist nicely with > the loader. The exynos5 port that I am working on (Arndale Board, Samsung > Chromebook) relies on this exclusively. this is in 9atom. also note, that the kw kernel is bootable without uimage support. - erik

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 06:10:51PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > Marvell Development Board (LSP Version KW_LSP_5.1.3_patch18)-- > > RD-88F6281A Soc: 88F6281 A0 LE > > > > That is openRD (Marvell 88F6281), it is a starting point for playing > > with it... > > well, good luck. there's a sata d

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 09:06:55PM -0700, Steven Stallion wrote: > > It's quite possible. I even have it working. :-) > > A couple of months ago I submitted a patch to the U-Boot mainline to add > formal support for Plan 9 kernels. It has since been accepted. At the same > time I also submitted a

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:19 AM, wrote: > Since it has u-boot installed and that the mapping of the flash is given > does one know if one could build a Plan9 kernel, write it (via > u-boot) to the flash and be able to boot? > It's quite possible. I even have it working. :-) A couple of months a

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> Marvell Development Board (LSP Version KW_LSP_5.1.3_patch18)-- > RD-88F6281A Soc: 88F6281 A0 LE > > That is openRD (Marvell 88F6281), it is a starting point for playing > with it... well, good luck. there's a sata driver in 9atom. - erik

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 09:31:29AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > I have read on the wiki that there is a 5c, for ARM 32bits > > little-endian, but that there is no flash memory support. > > i boot my openrd from flash. > So since it is: Marvell Development Board (LSP Version KW_LSP_5.1.3_pat

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 09:31:29AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > i have some experience with the marvell ferceron, and they are similar to > the plug computers/open rd, but most of the memory mapping will be > different. > > if your want your focus to be on the file server, and not porting to

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> I have read on the wiki that there is a 5c, for ARM 32bits > little-endian, but that there is no flash memory support. i boot my openrd from flash. > Unfortunately, it happens that in France, for small enterprises (not to > say independant worker like me), we are not a worthy target. And the >

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 10:04:23AM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > The ARM world is considerably more complicated, what with dozens of > subspecies in existence and 600-page manuals to describe how they > work. Personally, I'd be very interested in setting up a Plan 9/ARM > Google group in

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread lucio
> Since it has u-boot installed and that the mapping of the flash is given > does one know if one could build a Plan9 kernel, write it (via > u-boot) to the flash and be able to boot? I'm looking for the answer to this question too. Besides the Sheevaplug, I have a similar ARM gadget that I was p