Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-10-29 Thread wb . kloke
On Sunday, 27 October 2024, at 10:57 AM, Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen wrote: > I have tried it out by feeding it with the output from printarenas, and it seems to work reasonably well. Does anyone have any good ideas about how to incrementally extract the set of scores that has been added to a venti

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-10-27 Thread Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
I just stumbled across this thread, so I will repost something I wrote in 2017 about mirroring of venti. I had the need to create the union of two venti servers, so I wrote a client that copies individual venti blocks, given the scores. This you can do without worrying about what is on the target v

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-04 Thread Noam Preil
That's familiar enough that TBH I probably saw your message and forgot to respond. I was going through Some Shit at the time. I'm cleaning up my inbox today; I'll respond if I see it and reach out if I don't :) - Noam Preil -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: http

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-04 Thread wb . kloke
On Sunday, 4 August 2024, at 2:57 PM, noam wrote: > i'm unsure which thread you're talking about; can you link me to more info on mventi? I've been working on a better venti implementation as well [1], and it'd be nice to have another reference :) The other thread is "yet another try to fixup venti

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-04 Thread noam
Quoth wb.kl...@gmail.com: > Noam is right in most of his text. Well of course, I'm me, what do you expect? :D > But I have to add that the following sentence should be taken with some grain > of salt. Everything should be taken with at least one grain of salt, preferably more; salt is essential

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-04 Thread noam
Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us: > While I've received some help, it wasn't clear. I haven't asked for further > clarification because I know I would receive more banter for asking simple > follow-up questions. If you ask questions, I'll happily answer them. Banter you've received was specif

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-04 Thread noam
Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us: > I see this as a documentation problem. If people can't find information > easily, they ask. Without credible documentation, the cycle never ends. We > have endless discussions on 9fans on how to do things. Improving > documentation is a step forward. Is aski

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread Marco Feichtinger
Thanks Noam for that summery; it's of great help. -marco -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tca0eb0fbb2404e31-Mc78af745108ea6a349ba9966 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Code serves as a better single source of truth than 9fans. If you rely on 9fans for accuracy, it's understandable to be upset when the quality of posts is lacking. Accurate documentation is crucial when 9fans' quality declines. If everyone shirks responsibility for documentation, the problem wil

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread sirjofri
03.08.2024 21:06:54 kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us: > Naom, 9fans isn't a single source of truth, but rather is a place for holding > discussions.  Code doesn't lie. So code is the source of truth. Anything you say about how things work which doesn't match reality, is therefore just wrong or a lie.

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread wb . kloke
Noam is right in most of his text. But I have to add that the following sentence should be taken with some grain of salt.   > If the index is on a separate drive, though - e.g. index on SSD, data on HDDs > - mirrorarenas can be used to keep the arenas in sync between multiple (sets > of) HDDs,

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
khm, if you need validation as an expert, that's on you. Naom, 9fans isn't a single source of truth, but rather is a place for holding discussions.  I see this as a documentation problem. If people can't find information easily, they ask. Without credible documentation, the cycle never ends. We

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread noam
Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us: > khm, you can think whatever you like. If true, then all you can do is let it > be. > > My point is accurate information should be easy to find and read if you care about accurate information, the most helpful thing you can do is stop using LLMs. Sincerely, p

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread noam
Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us: > Would creating standard operating procedures for newcomers be beneficial? > Having procedures detailing how to administer Venti mirroring on a Plan 9 > system in a wiki seems reasonable. Here is a formatted example of an SOP. I > am sure something better coul

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread Kurt H Maier via 9fans
On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 02:27:14PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote: > khm, you can think whatever you like. If true, then all you can do is let it > be. I don't need your permission to think whatever I like, and there are tons of other things I can do, like informing you that you're a us

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
khm, you can think whatever you like. If true, then all you can do is let it be. My point is accurate information should be easy to find and read, like in a wiki. Mailing lists are for discussions, not for searching answers. It’s ideal when discussions lead to action items that improve the overa

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread Kurt H Maier via 9fans
On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 02:10:43PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote: > >     cron '*/5 * * * * fs(3) -m /dev/sdE0/arena /dev/sdE1/arena' > When you generate bullshit with an LLM and then post it without reading it, nobody thinks the LLM is stupid. We think *you* are stupid. khm --

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread kalona . ayeliski
Would creating standard operating procedures for newcomers be beneficial? Having procedures detailing how to administer Venti mirroring on a Plan 9 system in a wiki seems reasonable. Here is a formatted example of an SOP. I am sure something better could be created.   Standard Operating Procedu

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-03 Thread noam
Quoth Marco Feichtinger : > venti/mirrorarenas is undocumented, and I couldn't find any topic here, > which goes into more detail. > > So I am curious how does it work, > how does one to set it up, so the arenas get mirrored automatically, > and why do you use it instead of fs(3) mirror? fs(3) c

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-02 Thread Marco Feichtinger
Thank you very much guys, there are some helpful answers, even though this thread got a little messy. (didn't see that coming) Charles Forsyth, since you are using venti/mirrorarenas, if you don't mind, I would like to know what your venti.conf looks like. -marco ---

Re: [9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-30 Thread ori
Quoth Marco Feichtinger : > venti/mirrorarenas is undocumented, and I couldn't find any topic here, > which goes into more detail. > > So I am curious how does it work, > how does one to set it up, so the arenas get mirrored automatically, > and why do you use it instead of fs(3) mirror? > > -ma

[9fans] venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-07-29 Thread Marco Feichtinger
venti/mirrorarenas is undocumented, and I couldn't find any topic here, which goes into more detail. So I am curious how does it work, how does one to set it up, so the arenas get mirrored automatically, and why do you use it instead of fs(3) mirror? -marco