Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-27 Thread Axel Belinfante
since most of the follow-up discussion went sideways: > Anyone know the state of the art of writing 9p clients/servers in tcl? at some point in time it seemed to be http://wiki.tcl.tk/15632 (but I seriously do hope you already found that) Axel - nowadays also enjoying go

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-26 Thread Balwinder S Dheeman
On 10/10/2011 07:05 PM, Paul Lalonde wrote: C is a low level language, not intermediate. In the second decade of the 21st century is it too much to ask for garbage collection and type safety? "Go was born out of *frustration* with existing languages and environments for systems programming."

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-11 Thread L N
> And look at it this way: delegation helps the economy by employing > people and selling processors and memory :-) http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2011/7/109885-the-case-for-ramcloud/fulltext

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-11 Thread hiro
> And look at it this way: delegation helps the economy by employing > people and selling processors and memory :-) I hope this is sarcasm?

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-10 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Oct 10 09:52:36 EDT 2011, ph.soft...@gmail.com wrote: > It's not necessary that you're feeding a troll, in my opinion. > I actually agree with the idea that C is enough. > I don't understand why you need garbage collection ... why do you need > to have garbage in the first place? > Just beca

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-10 Thread Winston Kodogo
Speaking as someone who is too old and senile and stupid even to become a High Court Judge, I find the lack of "improvements" to Tcl to be a major attraction. I don’t need to program in it that often – I maintain one moderately-sized script which hardly ever changes - but when I need to re-visit i

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-10 Thread Wes Kussmaul
I wrote my first significant software project in 1971 in IBM 1620 assembly language. When I got done, I felt I was equipped to develop anything. In my subsequent job in a COBOL shop I became the house curmudgeon, sure that the language just got in the way. But looking back, there is no way we cou

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-10 Thread simon softnet
It's not necessary that you're feeding a troll, in my opinion. I actually agree with the idea that C is enough. I don't understand why you need garbage collection ... why do you need to have garbage in the first place? Just because time goes by does not mean everything should keep on changing you k

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-10 Thread Paul Lalonde
C is a low level language, not intermediate. In the second decade of the 21st century is it too much to ask for garbage collection and type safety? Hmm. I'm probably just feeding a troll. Paul On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Balwinder S Dheeman < bsd.sans...@anu.homelinux.net> wrote: > On 10

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-10 Thread Balwinder S Dheeman
On 10/09/2011 08:04 AM, Russ Cox wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:02 PM, L N wrote: Anyone know the state of the art of writing 9p clients/servers in tcl? I believe the state of the art is not to use tcl. :-) I'm having fun writing 9p clients in Go. IMHO, That Go or Go-language thingy seems

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-09 Thread Nick LaForge
> wut http://movie.subtitlr.com/subtitle/show/94536#line121

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-09 Thread simon softnet
wut On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:12 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sun Oct  9 02:16:11 EDT 2011, pmarin.m...@gmail.com wrote: >> In 15 years Tcl has been improved a lot, like any other  language. > > that might not be relevant to ron's point.  i think this is almost > a geometry problem.  if you plot

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-09 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Oct 9 02:16:11 EDT 2011, pmarin.m...@gmail.com wrote: > In 15 years Tcl has been improved a lot, like any other language. that might not be relevant to ron's point. i think this is almost a geometry problem. if you plot languages in 1997 and late 2011 on the "goodness line", it should f

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-08 Thread pmarin
In 15 years Tcl has been improved a lot, like any other language. On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 7:21 AM, ron minnich wrote: > Well, I did 9p clients for testing 15 years ago. It might have been > the right thing then; I was even making nfs clients in tcl back then. > > Would I do it again? > > No > > r

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-08 Thread ron minnich
Well, I did 9p clients for testing 15 years ago. It might have been the right thing then; I was even making nfs clients in tcl back then. Would I do it again? No ron

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-08 Thread Venkatesh Srinivas
Hi, > Also, this is somewhat unrelated, but I was wondering whether each Go > executable contains the garbage collector.  (It must, it seems, but just > checking). It does. -- vs

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-08 Thread L N
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > I believe the state of the art is not to use tcl. :-) > I'm having fun writing 9p clients in Go. > > Russ > Sure, tcl isn't as popular as Go right now. Still, tcl is appealing in some ways. http://www.tcl.tk/doc/scripting.html Was wondering

Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-08 Thread Russ Cox
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:02 PM, L N wrote: > Anyone know the state of the art of writing 9p clients/servers in tcl? I believe the state of the art is not to use tcl. :-) I'm having fun writing 9p clients in Go. Russ

[9fans] tcl, 9p

2011-10-08 Thread L N
Anyone know the state of the art of writing 9p clients/servers in tcl? - Leonard